Deadly_Nightshade

Yes. As much as I think it will be full price, your proof is a listing on the Gamestop website? Really? you can find the same price here.

Actually, no, I will not be buying a copy unless it looses “southern” feel – I really find that annoying and think that it only detracts from the game. Maybe if I found a copy for five dollars, but unless it drops down in that price range I am going to skip it.

Yes.

I'm going with Airport too.

Kid "A" might have seen Hard-R movies and that might be the reason behind his lack of reaction, Kid "B" might simply hide his emotions well. What you suggest is deeply flawed and would not help unless it was done en mass – something that is very unlikely to occur.

Actually, no, Chess depicts the grand strategy of war – not the actual “violence.” In the earliest versions of the game pieces were named for platoons, or a similar detachment, making the argument that Chess portrays the horrors or war, where each piece is a person and not an autonomous unit that does exactly as ordered, a mockery of common sense. As do you. I did not ask you about games such as Chess, although, under your sated rules, where all crimes are abhorrent, killing extra unites needlessly might make the game “immoral.” You have just done attempted a “bait-and-switch” while not addressing what I asked – would you or would you not play a game where your character committed a crime? If so, you are a hypocrite, if not you are on the wrong forum. Have you played Rapelay? If not, have you looked at any gameplay videos? The game itself, from what I have seen via the many, many on-line articles discussing the issue, was about as realistic as one would expect – and that is not very. The graphics were poor, the interface nothing more than a point-and-click – yes, this is surely the pinnacle of realism. However, all of that is beside the point. You have yet to explain your previous statements and, I suspect, will continue ignore that fact until this thread is closed, as that is your usual modus operandi. Still, I will grace you with a semi-response. Even if you had the most realistic, fully-interactive depiction of rape -much like the new Saw game is going to do for sadism-, you would still need to prove that the game was actually harmful. The same can be said of first-person shooters, while there might have been a few cases where playing one cause violence or a rise in aggression –both of these statements are very controversial and one can find research to support either side, although, I will admit, most of the studies showing a direct causation between games and violence have been found to be deeply flawed-, is it right to ban all of this genera based upon shaky evidence or gut-reactions? If I recall there were, and perhaps still are, people making similar claims against pornography –that it promotes rape and violence against women- yet in every court case I can recall, it has been awhile since I wrote the paper about this topic for the ethics class I was tacking and thus my memory might have overlooked a few, the pornographers prevailed. The only difference in the case of games is interactivity, but one would be hard-pressed to make a claim that this alone should make them banned.

Just Cause 2 Impressions: In Which Everything Explodes, Awesomely

Well, here are the votes: Guardian: I Blademaster: II Marksman: III And so we'll be doing a Marksman - that said, I should work on the next update now that I know what class I'll be using. You can be male or female, but the plot makes more sense with a female.

I agree.

Therefore, you would not play, or support, a game that had you killing other people in cold blood, required you to steal, or otherwise commit a crime. Is that what you are saying? If so you must not have like, to name two examples, either KotOR or KotOR II – seeing as they contain all of the above and more. However, if you did enjoy those games then, yes, you are a hypocrite –id est a bigot- who is picking and choosing when to apply this seeming “moral high ground.” Oh look, I happen to know what bigot means – maybe you should have thought about that before leaving yourself open to attack.

Dr. Q Hitman Sydney Ice Steroid

I'm guessing that the PC has its own GUI and not that one.

Not necessarily, seeing as they all have their strengths and weaknesses that are, naturally, both good and bad against certain enemies. However, they are quite different from each other and a playthrough with a ranged character is going to be different from one with a melee one.

And there is now one vote -via AIM- for Blademaster from a non-forum-member I know offline.

So, I have finally gotten around to posting the promised Let’s Play and, frankly, I am excited as you are about this as I have not played Hellgate London in its entirety before -that is not to say it’s a boring game, I just got distracted from it- and thus this will, hopefully, be the first time I complete the game. Anyways, enough about me – that’s not why you’re reading this after all, you want to see monstrosities get fried and not hear about how many time I have or, in this case, have not completed the game. Without further delay, here is Hellgate London is all its glory. Oh wait… That’s not actually the end of the intro, I do have one last tiny addendum – the backstory I have, sort of, assigned to the character we will be following is not cannon lore – although it is based off of the opening cinematic to a certain extent. Ok, now that really the end and you can continue to the real meat of the thread. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Retreating from the wreckage of London, our heroine’s father tells her to run and not look back whatever happens – a task that is easily commanded but not easily followed... Once safe inside the entrance to the underground, one of the only safe places in the city, she turns around… Only to see a demon ripping her father’s heart out of his chest. Fleeing down the passage, the vault-like door slamming into place she tearfully vows revenge… Years pass, and the young girl is now a woman – a woman trained in the art of war. Armed with both her weapons and new found skills she raises to the embattled surface to seek retribution. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And that’s the first update – sorry it wasn’t better. I will not be continuing in the same manner, as I did the intro as I doubt I could keep that up for the entire time, and will instead be doing a more candid version of the Let’s Play (albeit one that keeps semi-true to this posting). However, it is time for the first vote –although I might overrule it if I hate the outcome – about what class our main character should be. Here are your choices, I will be adding the next part sometime soon so vote early if you want to have your voice heard: 1) Guardian – The “tank” class, uses a shield a sword or pistol and sword. 2) Blademaster – A faster version of the Guardian, can duel-wield swords. 3) Summoner – A demonologist who can summon an army to aid in battle. 4) Evoker – Your standard mage, throws fire etc. 5) Marksman – Ranged warrior, uses guns. 6) Engineer – A Marksman who can also summon robots to aid in battle.

What do you call having the player perform those acts? I hope you are not saying that committing an act in a video game will make you do the same acts in real life because that is what it sounds like you are implying. If so, I suggest you go seclude yourself from others, contact Jack Thompson, and stop posting here as clearly you would likely murder someone or commit some other horrible crime due to all of those “nasty” games you have been playing. Alternatively, is there a double standard being implied because you play violent games and Rapelay is about sexual violence? If that is the case, why? Is rape any worse than mass killing –I am not saying it is or isn’t, this is just a rhetorical question that I am using as a theoretical possibility- or are you simply bigoted against one type of crime and not the other?

Hellgate London - I might do a let's play of this, would that be of interest to you guys?

Sure!

Actually, although I personally find it discussing and disturbing, I think that it IS perfectly “ok” and, unless it is proven to advocate rape and molestation, should be considered to be protected under free-speech laws. But let's leave that for another topic...

Don't hope.

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Really?! If so I'll buy it just as a "**** you" to the people who demanded the censored version.

Here's an example of a Ring 0 security risk directly related to DRM instillation.

And not the underhanded business tactics (and what tactics they were are) or the alleged damage it was causing? As for Chaos Theory, it was a fluke – many StarForce protected products have been cracked since then, it was just a case of the game having an odd, now obsolete, version of the DRM.