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213374U: This is your personal opinion and I respect that. I howewer think that entire stuff with sith magic, illusions, blowing stars is just brilliant - different preferences you see. Besides Lucas himself gave list of things ancient sith could do and not do. And thus you call him cheesy, becouse it's him who invented battle meditation, blowing stars and so on. Anderson and Veitch only did everything acc to his instructions

Thanks :cool: I think that Vader was powerful in terms of the galaxy's modern era, but in the ancient times Jedi and Sith were more powerful and Force was different. Naga Sadow was able to blew stars and he was creating entire armies using art of illusion... something Palpi couldn't do. Also Jedi Masters like Arca or Vodo were more powerful than Yoda, who could only move stupid bricks in Dooku's cave and one x-wing, while they could use battle meditation on grand scale, and Vodo even didn't need ligthsaber - he enhanced a simple stick with his force potential so it could stand ligthsaber hit! And even Luke, who was far more powerful than his father Anakin, was defeated by spirit of Exar Kun - imagine what Exar would do with Vader who always had serious health problems...

I fear that Revan will be shown without depth becouse Obisidian wants to promote their new heroes in the first place (Chris Avellone is obviously Mira's fanboy ) Same about Bastila: I doubt she'll be potraited correctly, either she should be trademark of the series (like Katarn in Jedi Knight) either she should perish I fear, that they will butcher her like Aribeth in Hordes of the Underdark! OK now to previous issue: Well actually Palpatine was tricking Yoda and his council all the time. Vergere used on Jacen also some kind of mind manipulation. Kyp Durron in Edge of Victory used mindtrick on Jaina, who was one of more powerful Jedi of her times (but not as powerful as Durron). Lomi Plo in Star by Star, dathomir witch, used mindtrick on young Anakin Solo (he admitted it later). The problem with mindtrick is that you can use on less powerful than you - and this means Jedi as well. Anyhow EU shows that more powerful force-users can use mindtricks on less powerful force-users.

I wonder if Arnie has ever played KOTOR...

If I can be honest I was really stunned when reading Dark Lords of the Sith and I rate this comic as best star wars comic ever (next are Redemption and Republic) - mainly becouse of Exar's character, his dark journey and seduction. You see his power, his arrogance but also his sensitivity... as for a comic there's great depth in showing step-by-step how he dives more deeply in the ancient teachings and his scientific fascinations transforms into desire for power. I think that we don't have any star wars novel that has ever shown such convincing seduction by the dark side - maybe Matthew Stover's ep3 novelization will be better. But the main reason I rate DLOTS so high is Exar Kun and his dark journey that led him to become a Dark Lord. In mid 1990 Exar Kun really was interesting ancient alternative to Vader - and this was George Lucas' intention becouse he made a profile of this character and a list of things he could and couldn't do (so if someone says that ancient sith are lame, he should know that Lucas himself oversaw the birth of that character and entire ancient republic setting too) The storyline is really brilliant - you really get impression that all events are set by some greater power (Freedon's uprising, rise of the Krath, death of master Arca, downfall of Exar) and there's no escape from fate. OK now my opinion about differences between Exar and Ulic: Exar was most powerful Jedi of his generation simply becouse it is him who was chosen by ancient sith lords spirits to be next Dark Lord and avenge the fall of the Sith Empire! If Qel Droma would be more powerful than Exar he would be appointed Dark Lord and yet Marka Ragnos said that he will be apprentice (and earlier Freedon said to ulic "there's another one... even greater than you" refering obviously to Exar) From three most powerful force users of the Great Sith War (Nomi Sunrider, Exar Kun and Ulic) Ulic proved to be weakest: he let himself be stripped of his force powers by Nomi and earlier captured by Republic. He was on his trial defenseless and couldn't do nothing. Exar on the other hand came to the trial, freezed all who were present and killed his own master (Anakin couldn't do that) who was great swordsman. So this whole trial case shown that Ulic was weaker than Exar... and later it took thousands of Jedi to destroy Exar Kun, while it took only Nomi to finish Ulic. No,no as much as I like Ulic I can't say that his force potential was as great as Exar's who's abilities were just greater. Besides always the strongest one is the Dark Lord. Of course in terms of swordsmanship Ulic, Exar and Nomi were equals (when dueling Exar and ulic both armed with amulets couldn't win - it was a stalemate) Nomi perhaps was the most gifted if she started to learn swordsmanship a year before Sith War and quickly became equal to Exar and Ulic who were practicing this their whole lives... Anyhow I think that Exar was most powerful in terms of force using - otherwise he wouldn't be a Dark Lord, and 1000-years old Marka Ragnos knew well who is best candidate for this rank.

Well he could manipulated his mind, so Exar got an impression that he was unable to use LS. I refer to D&D Expanded Psionic Handbook by Wizards.

Yeah but this guy will never be in your team (and that's the problem) Unless Darth333 will produce some nice mod.

And from new characters? And don't tell that you like zabraks!

Aaargh! What a great discussion we have here! Thanks to you guys Tales of the Jedi are truly alive! BTW maybe Freedon somehow blocked Kun's LS abilities, like Vergere who later blocked Jacen's force powers (in Traitor)! It could be a psionic suggestion!

Qel Droma maybe had a better story but thanks only to "Redemption" comic that added great depth to that character. Earlier he was just a weak traitor: he betrayed Jedi Order, betrayed Nomi and her love and in the end betrayed Exar Kun who was his true friend and risked everything to save him in the senate. Without Redemption Ulic wouldn't be so interesting!

I hope so. It would be cool to have edition similar to Neverwinter Nights Collector's (with soundtrack - this is most important)

You're just impossible. Good night.

Hyhy.... truly great.

You have a beard? I always thought that you are a girl! (w00t)

OK have it your way, I hate flamming too (sorry if I wasn't gentle but I was under impression that you want to have a quarrel)

I told you to f-off becouse you attacked me for stating my opinion. Here people state their opinions and read them but they respect them - and attacking me for disliking ugly bitch that Mira is, was quite lame I think.

I see that you are stupid enough to criticize people's private preferences I really don't care what do you think about Bastila or Bush or anyone. My preferences are mine, not yours and it's not your damn business what I like or not like, so you can f.... off.

I think that due to the dark aura that upcoming ROTS premiere generates I'll cling to the dark side...

Hey Pal I only said what I think (BTW Qel Droma is one of my favourites too). I think that Qel Droma's downfall was really lame with all that Aleema/poison stuff - in the end of DLOTS he just acted like an idiot. Exar's downfall was quite good in my opinion - Freedon tricked him nicely and step by step he accepted sith teachings...

Simply I don't like it (dunno know why though).

For example it stated that you could convert Bastila to the darkside after seducing her.

Prima's guide to original KOTOR was full of bugs.

Exar Kun is the coolest character of the entire EU and my favourite! Even Bastila is number 2. I don't think Anakin is that bad. I watched trailer of Revenge of the Sith (title is great, GL was wise) video game and Anakin really kicks ass! Now we can see his potential truly revealed - it's great to watch him fighting with Dooku, Windu and Obi-Wan and rest of jedi victims hehe...

Agreed.

Pleasure is mine.