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Haha. Certainly I am far more willing to accept a conception of God that simply created the RULES by which the universe is governed and gave it a start value (BIG BANG WEEE). Even so, platonic conceptions of mathematics are fraught with their own problems. I believe the platonists were none too happy about Goedel's theorems. I only specifically mentioned and bolded platonian because: Platons Demiurgi: Kind, careful and elegant architect of universe Gnostic Demiurgi: Nasty bastard who thinks it is real god while it isn't, responsible for trapping us in corrupted material world And I was referring platonian kind of builder for the lulz, obviously

Oh, I'm sorry then. I guess my mind was still occupied with consciousness topic when I read that (and I was pissed off because of Daniel Dennett. Bloody behaviourist. And that is something turing machines are also related to in a way) and I reacted wrongly. Ahh, thanks for clarification. In a momentary lapse of not very reasoned thinking I thought you were referring to some sort of hidden variable theory with "quantum turing machine". Which are rightfully pretty much buried by now This is something I very much agree about. It can be very annoying. For example "we don't know exactly how trees and other vegetables actually get water up against gravity" (caterpillar effect etc. as we know by now) doesn't make up "zomg it's gods work". An I'm not joking, that is true example Though I might add that considering how carefully, heck, beautiflly even, some aspects of our world are "constructed" (Fibbonazi numbers, topic at hand and above all fractals. Oh you lovely fractals <3 ) one could see world made by God/platonian demiurgi.

How come it is more fun to play? Hey, I was here long before Hades created his eleventhhundred alt Sand!

Gahh, I didn't think I should've made difference between the two

What's your point here? Turing machine argument can be easily countered with, for example, Searle's famous Chinese room. Cellural automaton thing is interesting, but suddenly neural network = turing machine and classical mechanics are subset of quantum mechanics and that there are some quantum turing machines is more than weird. Are you trying to argue human consciousness is turing machine (L-O-L)? Or are you trying to make case against "only God can design something this complex"? If it is latter, I snarl at weak basis for deterministic viewpoint (there are better ones) but if is latter I can't help but agree. Very interesting thread/piece of information, but I don't get your point

Please prove how Mass Effect's story wouldn't have been better if they had limited character choices more. I don't see how it can be better. It is the only game in a decade that has removed Fallout from its number 1 position in my top ten list. Sand, hardcore roleplayer... choosing "consolised stupid POS" over legends like Fallout... Truly wonders of having sex with genderless aliens are unimaginable Geez Sand... Next you inform us that you've become christian

Well, I sure am thankful this topic this evolve into something. I too should be writing post soon enough I appreciate WITHTEETH's and Tale's different, deterministic views on the matter. I'd also love to have some views from more, uhh, spiritual members on the board (Hurlshot?)

Well, he thinks God is some malicious prick And isn't Xenu like that?

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Why anyone would want to "pull off an Oblivion" boggles me to no end

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I rather ment it would've ment this thread might've not instantly degenerated into *** Don't ask, at least not yet. I've basically done nothing else than thinking about these things during these last two days and in this rate I'll become crazy. I've done extensive study on neurology, physics (especially quantum related), philosophy of Daniel Dennet and David Chalmers amongst many others, information theory, psychology... Oh, and I didn't mean predestination with determinism

... I want metadigital back :sad:

Discuss Also: Free will vs determinism Dedicated for the memory of dead philosophy topic

Oh god, awesome

I was not commenting on their possible emoisness or something, I was just ridiculing your stupid attitude towards jrpg's.

Well, it is freaky. Bloodeye

If it is done by DICE then it has chance of being good

Yeah, SEGA is far from bad publishers

Nightandtheshape (whatevah, too long name ) acted like true ****tard right there. "Baaaww jrpg's raped me with their cuteness baawww emo hair hair hair baawww" <_< That is ridiculous. Go play **** like Gears of War or something if you hate it so much. If even that's "manly" enogh for you MGS2 is good game. Not masterpiece like first or third one, but definetly most interesting and original one of those three Why? It is most mind**** game ever made and only one which was found on very basis of ****ing gamers up (one big "**** YOU" by mr Kojima).

ooh, Drama

Mmm... foot *munch munch* Well, there is still about one year worth of development time so MCA should have enough time to leave some blueprint on final product and not only "let's make this damn **** work somehow" a la NWN2 and Sawyer And hasn't Mitsoda been lead writer for this game from the very beginning?