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well, in d20 even a jedi master can die walking over a trap as vitality points only measure the ability to avoid harm. if you just walk over a mine or a bomb is triggered near you, the damage goes to your wound points- so you can actually be killed instantly (if you are surprised for example) this isn't reflected in kotor- so, the characters seem very powerful. i'd have mines ignore damage reduction and do more damage. that way, people will be forced to disarm the trap or get around it. immunities (fire, ice etc) should be used for special weapons (flamethrower) or natural hazards, not traps.

what? you mean setting your mouse on autoclick and running around like stupid? not to mention the absence of a storyline and of intelligent dialogue. if you need multiplayer sw, just look into galaxies.

so... what makes a sith lord really evil? destroying a whole planet? wiping out towns? releasing diseases? y'know that may all sound horrible, but the most horrible thing in kotor was telling zalbaar to kill his friend, mission. something along the lines of "rip her arms off" is really disgusting and i think this is exactly what makes an evil sith lord evil. close and personal deeds that shock and disgust are far more difficult to stomach than the abstract killing of billions. one can't really imagine billions dying, but forcing one to turn on his friend- now that we can imagine. :ph34r:

??? and palpatine hasn't? he transferred himself from one clone to the next, existing purely as a dark side spirit. he fooled the whole of the jedi council, standing next to them, going: "ooh. sith bad. jedi good. me nice " Ragnos and Simus may have been real Sith, but they were kindda shortsighted when it came to planning ahead. Palpatine was a real mastermind when it came to that. kun and vader were just dark jedi, so i wouldn't really count them. they claimed the title, but they weren't sith to begin with.

allright. player romance it is then. but they could at least have the other person die. you know, lover dies, player falls into rage, falls to the dark side etc. etc. or maybe some droid love? two droids loving each other.... they'll have ipod offspring.

well, i sucked at pazaak, so...

well, the hard dudes at least. i still remember the sith on the unknown world going "i increased my power tenfold blahblahblah". ZZZZZZZZZZT! "arrgh" i mean, come on. i was ALONE. they should've at least had some chance against me, what with being sith and all... (who's the master? who's the funky jedi master? that's right...) more evil lords with more cinematic (meaning LONG) fights. else it'll be just like in kotor. some quotes to make my point: "our master will be most pleas-"ZZZZT! "aaakkk" "die jed-"BZZZBZZZBZZZT! "aaaiiiieee" (thrown lightsaber) "you may have killed that pathetic bounty hunter, bu-- khhk hkkhhk. aakkkkh" (choke) "GROWLGROWLGRO-" ZZZZT! ZZZZT! (two lightsabers on dimwit wookie)

well, actually: http://www.ehnet.org/sabacc/start.php play sabbacc online - if you can do it on the web, you can implement it in a game. so what's the deal? the rules are a little more complex for a mini-game, ok. but then again, you can turn this into a quest (become the best sabbacc player in the system) or something like that.

A furious lightsaber duel is underway. As he cuts down his opponent, Luke notices something crawling out of the shadows toward him. Luke backs away. He looks around, but realizes there's nowhere to go, so he faces his opponent. He looks down. Luke: ? the hell is this? Hand: I am your hand, Luke. Luke: No, it's not true! It's impossible. Hand: Search your feelings... you know it to be true... Luke: NO! Hand: Yes, it is true... and you know what else? You know that old lightsaber of yours? Luke: The one that belonged to my dad? Hand: Yes... it's here... in my... er.... right here! Luke: No... Hand: Hahahahaha! Now you shall die by my own... by your own... Luke: Hand? Hand: Shaddap! YOU abandoned me- you just left me to die on that planet... Luke: Well, it's not my fault... Hand: Oh, here we go... "Poor me... my father never gave me what I wanted for my birthday... boo hoo, my daddy cut my hand off...waahhh wahhh!" Luke: Shut up... Hand: You're a slacker! If you stayed with Yoda, i'd still be attached to your arm. But noooo... Luke: It's not too late... Hand: *sigh* no... I see that someone else has already taken my place... Luke looks at his robotic hand. Luke: No, this is stupid. you're not my hand... I don't know whose you are, but you sure ain't mine... The Hand lunches towards Luke, but with a swift stroke of his saber, Luke cuts the abomination in half. Luke looks at the remains of the Hand. Luke: Eeew. Should've cut your nails.... punk....

swoop races, pazaak, shooting down sith fighters... we already had that. so what's next? i'd like to see that strategy game from the first star wars movie (the holographic one with the creatures)! a force-related game would be nice, too. any other ideas?

just human "teko ni'bota! paada konbe duro novess. be chuka-" ZZZZTTT "aaaargh" SPLAT translator: "racist humans! you cannot ignore us duros. i demand-" (lightsaber sound) "aaaaargh" (sound of limb hitting the floor)

relax. she only forgot her make-up. what with getting up early to smack some sith and all...

what??? where were they hiding? i didn't see any. btw, don't forget hutts and gamorreans. and twilek dancers of course. it'd be nice to have a hutt crimelord. but it shouldn't have a vicious pet (we had that before, right?). maybe it could be a relative of the hutt that kept the twilek girl (who became a sith warrior- forgot her name) as a slave

in d20, there's the possibility of imbuing objects with the force. also, one can create mastercraft weapons (lightsabers, too)- so maybe a combination of those would be nice? imagine having an old jedi / sith shrine (or something like that) where you can meditate and upgrade your saber btw, a dark cave / dark pool or something similar would be nice to have. the character could cleanse the place, gaining light side points and experience or use the place to become stronger in the dark side (say, using the pool gives dark side point and a dark side power upgrade)

hey, how about a mini-quest competition for the community? we'd have to send in a small plot, describing what is to be done, what kind of characters are involved and what alternatives there are in solving the problem. maybe also describing items involved and a bit of dialogue. best one to feature in the game?

hmm. i actually like this one- a jedi would disarm the opponent of course. no need killing, right? then again, the AI shouldn't attack a level 20 jedi...

NPCS: DON'T make one NPC be a sith general, a guy in the cantina, a citizen and a jedi again- use different faces for different characters. though i can see how one dude could be all of this at once, it kindda disturbs the feel of the game (well, i used to be a jedi, y'know. but i got fed up and went to taris and escaped just in time, so i went to a cantina in tattoine and thought about the sith... i decided to join and became a general pretty quick, but had to tell malak that his droids failed... i ran away before he could choke me to death. man, now it's four years later. i wonder what different places i'll turn up at next...) :-P

maybe i missed this one, but you said that party members will treat you differently depending on gender and behaviour. what about race? is the main character a human again or are other races available?

we might actually see Taris again. remember- the cities were destroyed, not the planet itself. maybe those dudes found their promised land. after all, they were deep down on the planet surface, right? so, someone could have survived on taris after all. visiting the ruins of taris could be an option.

eh??? so what were all the other dudes 4 years ago in the timeline? padawans? there were some jedi and masters left, as i recall... maybe you meant the last known jedi who had participated in that particular war...

oh- come on! why do you guys want an adult rating? what- some dudes have to loose some limbs? is that it? not enough sex n violence in the game? i don't recall having anything like that in star wars... even the saber cuts have always been clean (in the movies)

it'd be more fun to have a romance between two party members instead of main char and a party member. or even better: three people in the party are involved, the main char has to resolve angry disputes and could even influence who gets to fall in love with each other. this would also make choosing party members difficult (no i don't want to come with you if he's going, too. i rather stay on the ship, thank you)

well... how about a minigame with the ebon hawk? imagine flying through an astroid field and actually flying into a giant astroid, trying not to crash (too often) within that maze. that'd be cool.

hmm... these guys died in the war with exar kun- so too late for that. unless lucas approves of this change.

quite a lot of posts here... oh well, i think these should be in the game (additional to those that are already in the game): Miraluka - some of them could be jedi in the old republic. should be easy to create (just a human with shades...) Defel - it'd be great to have a couple of Defel hunters going after the main character (basically just dark figures of some sort) Kel'Dor - dunno if they were common back then, but they're fairly often mentioned elsewhere Celegian - they're in the main d20 book, too (after all...) Caamasi - these were one of the first spacefaring races, so i guess they should be around somewhere Weequay - there were hutts, but no weequays??? now that sucked! we need weequays (should be easy, right- they look human enough) Nikto - again hutts = nikto and weequay. come on, the hutts need guards like those. speaking of hutts, they were too poorly guarded in kotor, doing rather lowly jobs and crawling around in the dirt... Gand - some Gand Huntsmen would be cool more Droids - allright, NOT an alien race, but more kinds of droids would be cool- i missed protocol droids in kotor. Gotal - dont forget these! they'd make for cool force-users Devaronian - every cantina needs a shady one in the corner! Bith - yes, we HAD those in Kotor, but it'd actually be nice to have one to TALK to! Khommite - easy, right? human-like clones should be easy to come by Draethos - i guess that master odan-urr was not the only one at that time? Clawdite - ok, i actually hate those, but they wouldn't even need skinning as they can change to almost every other race Krevaaki - maybe a relative of the dead master? Pa'lowik -notice that there was no singing in the cantina? that's because there were no Pa'lowiks! Sakiyan: - those dudes have been resisting the Sith for a long time! what we DON'T need: Ewoks and Gungans!