Volourn

"You see Volo, one of the main definitions of a troll is someone who posts just in order to disrupt fruitful discussion. Even if what I post is wrong, I still stay on topic and don't go off on a tangent at the first chance. You, however, do that all the time. You are the troll, Volo, not the rest of us." Wwrong. The vast majority of my posts are about the topic on hand. then some bozo doesn't like what i post and so decides to make the topic about Volourn instead of continuing the disucssion. Thsoe who do that (ie. you) are the trolls. If someone attacks me I have the right to defend myself. Period. Troll.

"Yet another perfectly fine thread hijacked by Volourn and his uncanny efforts of anti-logic and totally unrelated discussion. Stick to the topic and stop wasting electrons. " Waaa.. Waa.. Big Bad. Volo. You DO realzie that the thread was doing just fine until youd ecided to twist one of my posts resembling a cookstrop right? Perhaps, if you wouldn't troll me so much you wouldn't have to worry about it. Afterall, most of the others thread had no problem discussing the topic(s) at hand. Learn something from other great posters like SP and Eldar. You might be able to mature a little bit. R00fles!

"Nope, it's not. By that standard, most people, in and outside of the internet are trolls. You will be hard pressed to find anyone who hasn't ever twisted an argument to make a point." You'd be hard pressed to find one person who has not at least been a little trollish on the net. We are all trolls inside. "What am I doing discussing with you?" The fact you twisted what i wrote and agreed with the twisted version even though I *never* said anything remotely like it.

"I thought by now you would have looked up what a troll is. Obviously you haven't." Eh. I'd wager twisting someone's words so they mean soemthing completely different is a sure sign of a troll. Next.

"Agreed. The AI in the IE games is next to not existant." If you have to twist my words into something they don't mean then perhaps we'd both be better off if you never agree with me. Thank you for your co-operation. "Then you don't understand the whole point of any game that is not a FPS. In a FPS what count are your reflexes, your wits. In a CRPG what counts is your sense of strategy, your capacity to planify a tactic and implement it to win, or change it if it's not working. If you fail, die, and have to reload, whatever tactic you were using was flawed. If you don't like strategy or thinking while playing games, then CRPGs are not for you. Well, old school CRPGs, that is. " Yet you deny being a troll. Good fun.

"We've believed that about PS:T for a long time." You might; but I sure don't. PST failed to succeed at a gretae rscale not because it's supposed (not) complex dialogues but a host of other factors - poor marketing was just one. Espicially if you realzie that *most* people who played PST *liked* it and those who don't aren't usually retarded.

"so tell me, i'm a real american, what exactly is it you believe i think?" No, you arne't a real Amerikan... unless you agree 100% what Weiser thinks.

"1) YOU CAN ONLY VOTE IF YOU HAVE BEATEN THE GAME." Due to your rudeness; I broke one of my rules. I voted in the poll even though I didn't finish it. Next time be courteous and respect us as human beings and I'll return the favour. Have a nice day.

"Perhaps you were just very lucky." Or, shockingly, you were very unlucky. Imagine that.

"Go drag another thread into a troll slug fest. Thanks." Someone who goesa round calling others who dislike a story he likes morons shouldn't be calling anyone else a troll. Pot. Kettle. Black. "Its pretty evident in the spoiler threads that people don't get it. Pay attention." From what I've read; there are two sides to the various issues. Not just one. For someone who claims that you like KOTOR2 because its so deep; your musings reek of someone shallow. "You disagree with me? You dumb." is exactly what you sound like. Game over. For now.

"KotOR2's greatest failing isn't that it has a poor story. KotOR2's greatest failing is that it makes players think and understand the story, rather than watching it." Whatever. Such arrogance in someone who actually likes IWD2 and POR2. KOTOR2's story is great and so deep that the peoples don't udnerstand it. Yeah, whatever.

"While I haven't played TSL myself yet (only observed it for a while at my xboxer friend's home) so I can't say about my feelings, I am under impression that most gamers are sharp on TSL bugs and storyline flaws becouse TSL is a continuation, not such groundbreaking game as KOTOR. KOTOR was some kind of culture shock with so many great ideas, that people actually didn't notice its many flaws and if even they did - they focused more on KOTOR's positive sides. Sequel rarely is original and gamers are already familiar with things like graphics or interface... nothing is new except the storyline - and that's why people focus more on the storyline and criticize it. And if TSL would be first such game? How would you rate it, without knowing about existence of KOTOR 1? No spoilers please!" I agree with you 100%. And, I mentioned this multiple times pre release; but people pushawed me. Booey to them and good for you for being One of the Many to find Enlightenment of Volournia. I epxect KOTOR2 to be a real fun game in it's own right; but it won't be OMG OMG OMG! Good stuff. :cool:

"Funny I seems to recall you whining about things falling from ceilings" Of course, you forget *why* I was complaining about them. It wasn't the difficulty; but the stupidity of the 'cheating' so called 'AI'.

It will and it does.

"If you kill people, and act like an evil bastard, the game seems to allow for that. If party members reacted adversely every single time, there would be no possible way to turn someone to the dark side, since you'd lose influence with any DS action." And, you consider this a good thing? Geez.. It's no different than KOTOR1. then again, in KOTOR1 they at least said something though, of course, they did nothing. Meh. I'm sure the influence system has some good qualities; but it's nowhere as good as I thought it was gonna be. My 'influence system' for what I'm working on accomplishes both.. Meh.. KOTOR2 will still be fun... :cool:

"After the NWN OC, the promises of a real story kind of made me run hopefully to the store, despite skepticism, because there was a lot of good in the game design." Aren't you the one always complaining about BIo and their crappy customer support, and buggy engines? Mind you, I haven't really heard your opinion on the actual games. Hmm.. I think that may be because you'd be "forced" to actually say something positive about them for once. Am I right? (w00t)

"It's not guaranteed that a Bethseda made Fallout will be bad. I have many concerns, but we haven't seen much yet." Darn close. Bethesda is the worst RPG devloper of all time. None even come close to the drek that Bethesda poos out.

"IWD II had some really great AI and combined monster tactics." Hahaha. No. IWD2 was the second easiest IE game. And, the only "good" AI was when it cheated. Otehrwise it was dumb as bricks most of the time.

"I agree with you but Bioware is very busy" Nah. Obsidian has 20-30 employees (I think; that might be high) and was working on 2 games at once. BIO has 200+ employees, and have 3 games; maybe 4 under way with one of those almost done. I'm sure they'd be able to manage another game - if they wanted to.

"Why didn't they simply say something aside from "the game is perfect. get off my lawn"?" Proof please. "Whether you subscribe to the LA supressing patches or not, the reaction bioware gave to the problems with KotOR showed they didn't have much interest simply helping people play the damn game they bought. That shows us what to expect, especially from such a "great" dev on such projects as this. That's why I care." Stop postiong like the 5 people you represent are even near the majority of people who bought, played, and enjoyed KOTOR1. You ain't foolin' anyone.

"I'm guessing ATI had to do some funny stuff to work around it because bioware wouldn't. That's not proven, but that's my interpretation." My ATI card works perfectly with KOTOR once I updated it. If you remember correctly, there was a very clear reason why certain ATI cards didn't work as well as they could - that's because when BIo was tetsing them were tetsing on the most updated drivers hence the problems - not because of buggy code. NWN works find. It has its ahre of bugs; but that's most likely because it's probably one of the most 'complex' games ever made. That doesn't exuse the bugs outright; but the fact that NWN has so few - if any - outright 'game enders' says a lot. Most of NWN's bugginess has to do with rules stuff. And, this stuff is fixed all the time; and I doubt it's simply because of moneysince its paid out of BIO's own pocket. And, their DD stuff probably sales enough just to cover patches and the mods thesmlves. I seriosuly doubt BIo's gonna make a lot of money on DD. Heck, I don't even buy them and I'm supposedly a BIo 'fanboy'. R00fles! As for KOTOR, well, consideirng the fact that BIO hasn't even ruled out another patch for it (even though 99% of people outside of you and your brother) have very stable copies now that says a lot. My point is that BIo's games are bug free 'cause theya ren't). It's that comapred to other devs; they are much closer to the Promised Land of No Bugs. And, unlike others, when bugs do occur, it's not 'Blame the publisher; but blame the Developer'. BIo seems to take a lot of blame for their bugs and they don't hide from it and they usually try to fix it. Obsidian seems to be a lot more quiet since KOTOR's release. P.S. I like Obsidian, and sure *some* slack should go their way since they are new; but only so much. Not to many new devs get the oppurtunity to work on such sure fire hits like KOTOR2 and NWN2.

"Oh you have insight in my game collection? Okay, when did you break into my apartment and supposed saw this? May I have your real name and address so I can call the police for such breaking and entering is rather illegal where I live." Ha. You know what he says is true. Afterall, you are the one who swore off all BIO games after NWN (which you rated 75%) yet gobbled up the two expansions AND the DD mods (which even I haven't) right away as well. You saying you'll wait 'til bargain bin means nothing as it's kinda ahrd to take you at your word on those issues. I'd say sorry; but I don't apologize for typing the truth.

"I think NWN only gets support because they're trying to milk it to death with their little online module store. If you took that away, buggyware wouldn't give a ****..... " That's hilarious consideirng that they were rleasing patches way before DD even entered the equation. Buggyware? Hahaha. The pun. BIO's games are usually the least buggy of any PC developer. WOWSERS! Then again, you are the one who seems to maintian that all of BIO's release don't work after 5 minutes so your opinion is moot. "Overall Atari is a crap publisher." No.

"Case is not closed. Look at the crap support they have for ToEE and MoO3." Irrelevant. I blame the lazy devs for that. Atari is awesome. Just look at the support NWN gets.

"Infogrammes is Atari" They are fantastic supporters of games. Look at all the patches, and other support for NWN. That is an Atari game. Case closed.