Darth Somethingorother

LOL, you think I'm an X-Box gamer? No I'm waiting for the PC version. But I'm not really frustrated; after all Feb. 2005 was the original date stated...... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ahhhh, I see your knocking years off my life for the hell of it. Cheers

They should apologize for choosing to release the X-Box version when it's ready and not wait until the PC version is ready? Don't you think that would be unfair to X-Box consumers? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ah ah ah, US xbox consumers. Roughly 50m/2-3billion. Now what's unfair?

ROFLMAO Victory of consumer rights? More like victory of spoiled PC gamers. So you want the X-Box version to sit in a warehouse for 2 months until the PC version is finished, eh? Yeah, it's crystal clear what's really going on here...... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's very cynical of u. Would it hurt u to wait a mere 2 months with the rest of the world?

Hmmm...and where exactly is this binding contract that Lucasarts signed in blood that 100% "promises" simultaneous release dates? And what makes you so sure they always "knew" it wasn't going to be happen? Did it ever occur to you that *gasp* they recently determined the X-Box was ahead of schedule and simply pushed it forward? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> So why not just keep thier word? No, it wasn't signed in blood, ur right. It wouldn't have hurt them to release everything at the same time like they said they would, in every magazine/internet article. They wouldn't lose out. But the way they've handled this- no apology or anything- has hurt them in terms of customer relations. Do you know of this phenomena? Bad customer care can often affect sales.

But what if we could get the US xbox date pushed back? That would be a great thing- a victory of Cosumer rights of the money-making whims of some CEO who's probably never so much as looked at a game in his life. I appreciate that the publishers need to make money, but realistically, they would get the same number of buyers whenever they release the game, so why not just wait till Feb? What I'm saying is that if a publisher makes a promise like a simultaneous release date, then they should stick to it, or say, "look, we're sorry, we were over optimistic about that, whoops, our bad, tell u what we'll knock 10% off the price pre-paid by international xbox and PC customers". My problem is the cack-handed way this was delt with, like we've been cast aside for high Xmas sale figures in the US. In many people's eyes, their word means jack-**** and i'll stop ranting there, coz I've said this all before.

Many of us are critiscising LA, not the devs (because they do a great thing). Ok, if it was so obvious that the Xbox version was coming out first, why keep on saying that they're pushing for a worldwide simultanious release, when they knew that that wasn't going to happen? Why sell the game on that premise? The whole point is not the wait, it is the fact that several billion people have been lied to, and deserve at least an apology, if not a delayed release in the US for the xbox- LIKE THEY PROMISED

Yea, thanks Akari. The thing is that they did announce a simultaneous release, whether it was unwise to do that or not, they took that descision. On the basis of that, they let people pre order the game, which surely can't be legal if one platform is behind the other, and u have no intention of delaying the release date of the one that is in front to coincide with the one that is behind? The very least they owe us is an apology, that would go some way to fixing their damaged rep. I don't so much mind the wait- like Akari said, it's not delayed, but I don't like being lied to and LA can't be allowed to get away with treating thier paying customers like that.

might be to do with translation. U'd have to translate it into every other language, as a lot of Europeans don't speak English as a first language. It would be even more unfair to release the English version in France, or just give it to the British (and Irish) market. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> As unfair as giving it to the USA and not the rest of the english speaking world you mean <_< I would be less concerned if I didnt speak english and they needed time to translate.....the game is already in english so give to all or none! But alas it is a business so get it to the biggest christmas audience if possible *cough..USA..cough* <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sadly, that is all too true.

might be to do with translation. U'd have to translate it into every other language, as a lot of Europeans don't speak English as a first language. It would be even more unfair to release the English version in France, or just give it to the British (and Irish) market.

I also have to disagree with the idea of it being a "crappy Console port" they wouldn't risk that, and don't forget they (that's u DEVS) will have extra time to make the PC version even better, like it was with KOTOR. Don't let us down devs, please! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> With all due respect I have to say I don't share your optimism and I don't think the Developers are going to spend the extra time they have making a nice GUI and inventory system for the PC version, which aside from supporting high-res PC graphics would be the thing that'll be IMO most needed not to make the PC version play and feel like some cheap console port. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> All well and good saying that, but what did they do last time when they were released 2 months apart... a nice new made 4 PC interface. I'm not talking about totally changing the inventory system or game engine or anything silly like that, I'm just hoping that they put more effort into it that simply porting it. They already had a mountain to climb to impress PC gamers, now they have an even bigger one. P.S. It would be really good to get a Dev posting on here <hint, Hint> just to give ur side? EDIT; sorry Akari, turns out u did, but why not throw fuel on the fire? What PC gamers want to know most right now is that u Devs still remember us, and that u will still b working up till Feb to make the PC version more than just a port.

I also have to disagree with the idea of it being a "crappy Console port" they wouldn't risk that, and don't forget they (that's u DEVS) will have extra time to make the PC version even better, like it was with KOTOR. Don't let us down devs, please!

God only knows why i'm trusting them, but they do say that Feb is the international release date. As for the last para, you got my support

I ******g well hope so. I think we've been treated really badly in this. There should be laws against this kind of thing. EDIT; HEADS UP, THERES A POST ON LUCASARTS FORUMS ABOUT A PETITION FOR CHANGING THE RELEASE DATES

I guess we can always console (ahh, i'm witty) ourselves with the fact that we'll have a modding community to fall back on.

lol! Like they care that much about us PC users! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> sorry darth somethingorother but im afraid i will have to disagree with you for once....im sure they do care its just they dont care THAT much....but pc usually has better extra content than xbox.....like a few days ago i borrowed my friends version of jedi academy cos he told me you could make any character/vehicle/thing you wanted!!!! how cool is that?!?!?!?!?!?! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's what I said THAT much, wasn't it? anyhoo- can u really do that on JA, how, I'd virtually given that up as dead! I still don't think there'll be extra content. They never said there would be any, and I don't see them changing thier minds. Tho, iut would b nice to have an extra ending, just for us. U know there was an unnoficial one for KOTOR?

ear, ear.

lol! Like they care that much about us PC users!

i agree with the last paragraph :D <{POST_SNAPBACK}> why thankyou

In reply to the above post by Viper 1000, I'd have to say that I don't see why Pc gamings days are numberd. All games are developed on PC's. PC games are easily and inexspensively, for the customer, patched. PC games can be modded. PC graphics will always be better. Older PC's can be upgraded. U can get adapters for console controllers so that they work on PC's. There are also slightly less legal ways of playing any game u like on a PC. The possibilities are endless for PC's, whereas consoles get outdated, then you have to fork out a fortune for the newer version, after only getting 2 years worth of play out of it, the first year of which was filled with crap games. Secondly, IMHO, it is unfair to critiscise the Devs for the release dates, they were clearly working their ***es off for a simultaneous release, it's just that LA probably pulled the plug, for the prophits. BOYCOTT DECEMBER!!!

Perhaps they haven't given a definite number because it depends on how you told KotOR2 KotOR1 ended- ie that it varies depending on what u choose?

I agree! That would be... rubbish! That's the word, rubbish! All that effort I went to to get him to remember his true destiny, wasted. 40+ Hours of my life that I'd want back. Bit like the night I tried to see if the light really does go off when you close the fridge door...

I think I read on IGN or Gamespot in an article somewhere that you meet kreia about the Ebon Hawk (or wherever you start). If she's there from the beginning couldn't it be that she filled you in? Afterall, if you were in exile, you wouldn't know that the Republic was in turmoil- might not even care- so that would mean that somebody would have to come and get you- and would therefore fill you in. Possibly Kreia, I dunno.

We do that in Britain as well. "Vote UKIP, and we'll send Kilroy away to Brussels- that's a promise". Got my vote!

We do that in Britain as well. "Vote UKIP, and we'll send Kilroy away to Brussels- that's a promise". Got my vote!

Just a quick technical question. Some of us unfortunate wretches are unlucky enough to have Radeon IGP's, and found that KOTORI ran, really quite badly on it. With all the graphical enchancements (rain etc.), will KOTORII run even worse?