Darth Launch

Aww... you poor thing You have my condolences, even though I know that won't mean much to you

Men should cry (more often)... it might make them less emotionally retarded

The last time I cried was on Wednesday... I like to cry on a regular basis... good for you

Watch Constantine! It has Keanu I watched "Der Untergang" last night... it was very well done and interesting

Nice desktop thingie Bales

Manchester United

Yeh, "Knowing Me, Knowing You" is awesome... Steve Coogan is great... I really want to see his "A **** and Bull Story" (stupid filter) with Rob Brydon... it must be awesome

I'm listening to (and half-watching) an episode of "I'm Alan Partridge"... I love Steve Coogan... funny men are awesome

I forced "Xin Liu Xing Hu Die Jian" ("Butterfly and Sword" for you monkeys) on my parents... they weren't impressed :D

I'm no artsy hipster... I just listened to Deelite's "Groove Is In The Heart" and I think that proves my none-artsy-nessness

I just saw the Paris Hilton song on T.V. and now I can't listen to anything as my ears are bleeding

They're not ugly... well, not all of them or... ermm... quiet you <_< I've been busy really... and it upsets me that the World Cup takes over the entire country and is shoved in my face all the time, no matter what I do

Ooh! Dave Angel! (w00t) I've been a very bad person, and have actually avoided all of the matches so far (yes, even the England match), but I put an end to my hiatus for Roberto Carlos' thighs, but I was quite disappointed by Brazil's performance and long shorts

I watched "Ladyhawke" today... young Matthew Broderick is cute and Rutger Hauer is always cool I also watched "The X Files" movie... oh well

He hurt it in a big gun fight

I'm listening to Massive Attack's "What Your Soul Sings"

I just watched "Lashou Shentan" (or "Hard Boiled" for most of you monkeys). I've seen it before, and it was just as brilliant this time as it was the last Hooray for cute Chinese babies...: ... and Tony Leung! Yay!:

I'm not saying that it's just you, or select forum members, that are happy with this man's death. I, too, feel a sense of relief that he is gone. In fact, I should be happiest about this whole thing, more so than you (as I'm asssuming that you're not muslim or many other forum members are) since this awful man not only persecuted people of my own religion, but also acted as a terrible representation of what our faith is supposed to be about. My point was that there is a chance that the consequences of his death may be more bad than good. Of course, I hope that my pessimism is just that, and proven wrong, I just feel that such a celebration may be ill-timed or too soon. Let's just hope I'm wrong about that The "Hitler" thing was really just my way of saying that a crazed, evil person can easily re-emerge, but that's just my pessimism again. The point I was drawing on was not that there is any similarity between the two situations, as there is not, but the fact that celebration of the death of human life shouldn't occur so mindlessly, be it an innocent life or otherwise. I apologise if I didn't make that clear. No, they shouldn't be excused at all. My point was that I believe (and others) that the celebration of the death of human life is not right or justifiable, whether you're a villager in the Middle East or a person sat at a computer. I don't see much more point in arguing on this thread, when, essentially, we agree that his man's death is a momentary relief to the conflict in Iraq. I'm unconvinced about corporal punishment, simply because I believe taking a person's life, whether they've committed a crime or not, is something we're not in a position to decide impartially or entitled to, but I know it makes sense to many others, such as yourself. Like Mothie said, there's not much else to do but wait to see what happens in Iraq as a result of this, and let's hope it's for the best

Hee hee ^_^... this is fun... good find Mothie webuser: Darth Launch sternest: Arch lad hunt. webuser: Launchiepoo sternest: Up ache in loo. Obligatory anagrams for favourite actors: webuser: Tony Leung sternest: Young lent. webuser: Hiroyuki Sanada sternest: Any rakish audio. webuser: Michelle Yeoh sternest: I homely leech. webuser: Monica Bellucci sternest: Alien comic club.

Oh, that's a shame Ooh... monkey time!

I'm listening to the Fun Lovin' Criminals' "Scooby Snacks" :D

Fair enough. You're entitled to your beliefs, however "radical" they may come across to others. I don't support capital punishment at all, and I disagree with the whole "eye for an eye" thing simply because I was brought up believing that two wrongs don't make a right. Please don't take that as a personal attack on your upbringing, I don't stoop so low, and I happen to quite like you Lovewolf. However, "people like me"? What are you inferring? If you're going to turn this into a personal attack on me, then do so over PMs so as to not distract from the point of this thread. Additionally, you cannot impose your standards and your beliefs on another, nor could I. You believe in corporal punishment because it was supposedly justified through the whole court process, however, did you consider that this man and others may also believe their actions are justified? I'm not excusing the terrible things this man and others have done, but nor can you justify or excuse corporal punishment to me (or people like me) either, which I consider equally radical. I'm just as entitled to make my point about this topic and express my reaction to the said event, just as you all are. I never said that I was not happy that he was gone. In fact, you should re-read my post as I agreed with Baley saying that I was relieved he was gone but I was not celebrating his death. I think it's somewhat naive to think that his martyrdom won't be on a large scale, maybe it won't, but you can't discount the strong possibility of it happening. And, unfortunately, he will be replaced, in one form or another. "There will always be a Hitler." You're not a soldier stationed in Iraq. However, I do know soldiers (British ones) that are, and they were relieved but as far as I know, little celebration took place. Celebrating in a war zone is something that only happens in Hollywood and at the end of conflicts. Again, you're mistaken to believe that I was sad or wallowing for this man's death. My point was that celebrating this man's death in such a frivolous manner only gives the impression that you are no better than them. I was not a part of any forum when the 9/11 attack occurred so I do not know what the general consensus would have been like in a forum like this, however, I recall seeing on the News images and videos of random people cheering and celebrating the attack in the streets. People were outraged and disgusted, as was I, and rightly so. However, how is this celebration any different? Yeh, those were innocent lives, but you have to remember that these people who were celebrating were ill-informed simple people, who have probably been told of the "evil America" all their lives, yet they were still scorned for their actions. Just because you're in your comfy chair and have the internet at your disposal does not excuse ignorance in the same way that it does for them. Regardless of whether you agree with me there or not, you're entitled to be appalled with what I said, just as I am entitled to be appalled at the celebration of a death. Maybe we should leave it at that?

Ooh... good article Bales. Pretty much sums up my view on the whole thing EDIT - If he had been caught, then he would have been tried in court for his crimes. You know, aren't the "democratic" nations meant to be setting an example to the "barbaric" ones? Celebrating this man's death only teaches that the death of an enemy is a good one. Not a good lesson. Not by my standards at least. And yes, I am aware of his crimes, as I do read and follow the News almost religiously (my obsession with the BBC News website has a part in that). Don't give me the whole "in the middle ages" **** Lovewolf... atrocities of all shapes and forms took place everywhere as recent as 100 years ago. Surely you know that. And from my own research, and that I have read of other psychologists, anyone is capable of anything (do a google search of Milgram for an example).

But he'll only be replaced by five others and those that are already misguided by the fundamentalists will only double their "efforts"... that's mine and Baley's point. Funny you said "It always gets worse before it gets better."... I said "You can only see better after going blind" to Baley. And the joy thing... well, I doubt his death has brought much resolution to those that have suffered directly from his actions, but good for you and everyone else that feels joy then