Darth Launch

I watched "Ladyhawke" today... young Matthew Broderick is cute and Rutger Hauer is always cool I also watched "The X Files" movie... oh well

He hurt it in a big gun fight

I'm listening to Massive Attack's "What Your Soul Sings"

I just watched "Lashou Shentan" (or "Hard Boiled" for most of you monkeys). I've seen it before, and it was just as brilliant this time as it was the last Hooray for cute Chinese babies...: ... and Tony Leung! Yay!:

I'm not saying that it's just you, or select forum members, that are happy with this man's death. I, too, feel a sense of relief that he is gone. In fact, I should be happiest about this whole thing, more so than you (as I'm asssuming that you're not muslim or many other forum members are) since this awful man not only persecuted people of my own religion, but also acted as a terrible representation of what our faith is supposed to be about. My point was that there is a chance that the consequences of his death may be more bad than good. Of course, I hope that my pessimism is just that, and proven wrong, I just feel that such a celebration may be ill-timed or too soon. Let's just hope I'm wrong about that The "Hitler" thing was really just my way of saying that a crazed, evil person can easily re-emerge, but that's just my pessimism again. The point I was drawing on was not that there is any similarity between the two situations, as there is not, but the fact that celebration of the death of human life shouldn't occur so mindlessly, be it an innocent life or otherwise. I apologise if I didn't make that clear. No, they shouldn't be excused at all. My point was that I believe (and others) that the celebration of the death of human life is not right or justifiable, whether you're a villager in the Middle East or a person sat at a computer. I don't see much more point in arguing on this thread, when, essentially, we agree that his man's death is a momentary relief to the conflict in Iraq. I'm unconvinced about corporal punishment, simply because I believe taking a person's life, whether they've committed a crime or not, is something we're not in a position to decide impartially or entitled to, but I know it makes sense to many others, such as yourself. Like Mothie said, there's not much else to do but wait to see what happens in Iraq as a result of this, and let's hope it's for the best

Hee hee ^_^... this is fun... good find Mothie webuser: Darth Launch sternest: Arch lad hunt. webuser: Launchiepoo sternest: Up ache in loo. Obligatory anagrams for favourite actors: webuser: Tony Leung sternest: Young lent. webuser: Hiroyuki Sanada sternest: Any rakish audio. webuser: Michelle Yeoh sternest: I homely leech. webuser: Monica Bellucci sternest: Alien comic club.

Oh, that's a shame Ooh... monkey time!

I'm listening to the Fun Lovin' Criminals' "Scooby Snacks" :D

Fair enough. You're entitled to your beliefs, however "radical" they may come across to others. I don't support capital punishment at all, and I disagree with the whole "eye for an eye" thing simply because I was brought up believing that two wrongs don't make a right. Please don't take that as a personal attack on your upbringing, I don't stoop so low, and I happen to quite like you Lovewolf. However, "people like me"? What are you inferring? If you're going to turn this into a personal attack on me, then do so over PMs so as to not distract from the point of this thread. Additionally, you cannot impose your standards and your beliefs on another, nor could I. You believe in corporal punishment because it was supposedly justified through the whole court process, however, did you consider that this man and others may also believe their actions are justified? I'm not excusing the terrible things this man and others have done, but nor can you justify or excuse corporal punishment to me (or people like me) either, which I consider equally radical. I'm just as entitled to make my point about this topic and express my reaction to the said event, just as you all are. I never said that I was not happy that he was gone. In fact, you should re-read my post as I agreed with Baley saying that I was relieved he was gone but I was not celebrating his death. I think it's somewhat naive to think that his martyrdom won't be on a large scale, maybe it won't, but you can't discount the strong possibility of it happening. And, unfortunately, he will be replaced, in one form or another. "There will always be a Hitler." You're not a soldier stationed in Iraq. However, I do know soldiers (British ones) that are, and they were relieved but as far as I know, little celebration took place. Celebrating in a war zone is something that only happens in Hollywood and at the end of conflicts. Again, you're mistaken to believe that I was sad or wallowing for this man's death. My point was that celebrating this man's death in such a frivolous manner only gives the impression that you are no better than them. I was not a part of any forum when the 9/11 attack occurred so I do not know what the general consensus would have been like in a forum like this, however, I recall seeing on the News images and videos of random people cheering and celebrating the attack in the streets. People were outraged and disgusted, as was I, and rightly so. However, how is this celebration any different? Yeh, those were innocent lives, but you have to remember that these people who were celebrating were ill-informed simple people, who have probably been told of the "evil America" all their lives, yet they were still scorned for their actions. Just because you're in your comfy chair and have the internet at your disposal does not excuse ignorance in the same way that it does for them. Regardless of whether you agree with me there or not, you're entitled to be appalled with what I said, just as I am entitled to be appalled at the celebration of a death. Maybe we should leave it at that?

Ooh... good article Bales. Pretty much sums up my view on the whole thing EDIT - If he had been caught, then he would have been tried in court for his crimes. You know, aren't the "democratic" nations meant to be setting an example to the "barbaric" ones? Celebrating this man's death only teaches that the death of an enemy is a good one. Not a good lesson. Not by my standards at least. And yes, I am aware of his crimes, as I do read and follow the News almost religiously (my obsession with the BBC News website has a part in that). Don't give me the whole "in the middle ages" **** Lovewolf... atrocities of all shapes and forms took place everywhere as recent as 100 years ago. Surely you know that. And from my own research, and that I have read of other psychologists, anyone is capable of anything (do a google search of Milgram for an example).

But he'll only be replaced by five others and those that are already misguided by the fundamentalists will only double their "efforts"... that's mine and Baley's point. Funny you said "It always gets worse before it gets better."... I said "You can only see better after going blind" to Baley. And the joy thing... well, I doubt his death has brought much resolution to those that have suffered directly from his actions, but good for you and everyone else that feels joy then

Ducks are cute... have you got any photos you've taken of ducks Crimson? :D

That's your loss then Lucius... you'd be a better person to not revel in another's death. And you should know me better than that. I would not use that smilie in such a way. Oh well. And Lovewolf: The Baley is right there... nor do I think celebrating the death of anyone, however evil or supposedly "deserving", is big or clever. Hypocrisy is rife on this forum. And, unfortunately, there will be those that will make this man into a martyr either out of sheer stupidity and ignorance or as an excuse to further their own motives... his capture would have been much better for all concerned. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That help? I'm quite ashamed with all of you. A man dies. A bad, evil man, but a man nonetheless. There's no joy in that. You celebrate what? That this marks the end to terrible things happening? Rubbish... it'll only get worse.

Baley... I think they've missed the point...

I'm now listening to Supergrass's "Alright"

You're so cute

Hmm... heartless isn't a word I would use to describe you... I wonder what I would though... *thinks*

Are you sure? Here it is again

Foxes are cute... we sometimes get one running about in our back garden... oh, and did you take that photo yourself Crimson?

*sighs*

I'm listening to David Bowie's "Heroes"

Nor would they be expected