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I liked the ending a lot, actually ^_^ it fit perfectly the character i had picked for the Exile, and was quite consistent with the overall theme for the rest of game, imo...

Some people like to grind, some people like to just follow the plot... think i got to ~l.23 by the end of game, and that was after doing pretty much every quest in the book. Can't imagine the amount of pointless extra work that'd be needed to get 7+ more levels, especially when the game is quite easy below l.25 as it is so by grinding i'd be only spoiling my fun... <_< as for the original poster's problem: running without speed boost (so the sabers could keep up) and lightsaber throw worked for me :">

"Need a cleanup in aisle 6, please..." " :"> :ph34r:

the best one yet. methinks it's the hair, slightly softer face lines and the light colours all together that really make it stand out. (now, why i can't get *this* outfit at the start of the game, rather than the default overalls... "

In other words, make them both Hutts. they'd feel right at home with the universe of that era, filled with flying lobsters and evil brains in jars... "

It worked out pretty well for my exile i think; she rarely swayed past 1/3rd of the middle and never broke the character i picked for her with the choices. At the very bottom she still held the same 'good' values that made her go to war in the first place, but also the same short temper which played arge part in disagreeing with the council ... then on top of it there was the results of being exposed to war and Revan's manipulative tactics: little compassion if not plain disdain for weakness (especially the whiny kind) and not shying away for violence if it was believed to be the most effective way towards a goal. And then finally atop of it all there's result of living for long years on her own -- looking for self-interest first and everything else later in regular circumstances. With a setup like this you can have occasional moment of compassion, choose the 'good' path if there's nothing to gain from acting opposite, kick someone's teeth the moment they annoy you, and rarely turn down offered opportunity to make some money... all in character. (and no drowning puppies were saved while playing the game... cats are way nicer all-around, anyway "

A shameless bump for mad, mad fanart in case there's someone out there who didn't see it yet "

Omg, Atton *without* pazaak cards... i sense major plot development behind the scenes " (how about pictures of it, too :">

I think it should start with an earthquake and work its way up to a climax... <_<

15 pages of bickering over this wasn't enough last time the idea popped up? >.<

It depends on the exact type of the game we're talking about. A typical dating simulator will have the player pursue single character of their choice (while having to dodge advances of other potential interests, to not upset their real target) ... while the 'mature-themed' games of this kind still have the player choose one girl/guy in the end, but still allow them to err... sample throughout all possible choices before it happens. :"> "

I'd normally agree but Shadowrun somehow manages to pull this off (and that's just the tip of weirdness iceberg it has...) ^_^ that said, the rights to computer games set in Shadowrun universe are currently owned by Microsoft if am not mistaken, so the chance of something like that happening is less than slim :/

Can see it already. "In a bold, unexpected move today Obsidian Entertainment announced the next KotOR game will be done in form resembling that of dating simulator games popular in Japan, with hand-drawn 2d graphics prepared by a recently hired artist, "Aimo" The game will put the player in shoes of a teenage Jedi padawan, and allow them to try to win affection of one of possible love interests, while also requiring them to keep up with their Jedi Academy courses..." "

I dunno about wrinkly enough but the wrinkles all around the mouth make her look like she's sporting a mustache ^^;; (i did quick google image search and it seems even for old people the lips remain relatively smooth... the wrinkles form from eye corners outside, all along the forehead and from around mouth corners down the jaw... dunno how they do it in anime, though ... i'd need to dig for my Cowboy Bebop eps ^^;

I don't know how many people exactly know who Mara Jade is. I just know apparently her being significant part of series of Star Wars books didn't prevent these books from selling well. And please, just re-read what you wrote here. You openly admit you have very little clue on who the character is, then base your conclusion on character's nature on this very lack of the clue (and on her gender), and wind up at the 'anything female in the story is there strictly as window dressing for the men' ... with this sort of attitude that you flaunt, didn't it ever occur to you the fact you don't know many girl gamers in your school --and consequently claim there is few of them-- might be, just might be, those gamers would rather keep to themselves that stay around someone spewing this sort of narrowminded drivel? Honest to god i would. While it's cool if someone shares one of my interests and i'd possibly want to talk about it with them ... it's just not the case when the personality of that someone driving me up the wall. Conversation at the price of too much frustration just isn't worth it.

How comes neither Ewoks nor Gungans made it in the pool.. :s I like the way Rodians speak, and those sounds the Champ race makes is about the coolest thing (if i discount ::dwoooooo:: due to mechanical origins) ... but in the end, gotta hand it to twi'leks, "schutta" is just too versatile and convenient "

Thank goodness they had the common sense to make Mara Jade a man. Imagine terrible sales and lack of popularity if anything with a woman in focus was introduced in the Star Wars universe. ... oh, wait. ("probably" as argument works both ways. For every "probably not" there's equally valid "probably yes" when it's all 100% based on what-if's and wishful thinking)

Hmm perhaps we have misunderstanding here. Catering to me means, to supply someone with what they want. This does not imply in the slightest exclusive attention, but simply investing part of resources into enhancements of the product so it appeals to wider customer base. KotOR out of all things is a good example that it can be done, and it doesn't look like the majority of male gamers are up in arms that there's something in this game that isn't aimed squarely at them... unless they're all suffering silently because of it and don't tell, or something <_<

It's been a while since i was in math class as well, but i seem to recall 60% + 40% is considerably larger than 60% ... i don't see why taking into account wider playerbase is automagically expected to exclude the male part of it? Btw, does it mean you are okay with the idea once the numbers are reversed (and with the rate of increase we can see for female gamers, this can be sooner than you think) the game industry drops the 'boys' altogether like no-longer-worthwile hot potato and collectively starts making games for women only? (as, by your own words, it'd be simply a better business for them) :s

So, that makes the women ~35% of market share on average. While if i remember right, the arguments earlier in this thread went along lines the 'female' game market doesn't exist and as such isn't catered for. Remember, we are talking games here which currently bring bigger revenue than movie industry does. Anyone who thinks they can afford ignoring 35% of market of this size is an idiot. As opposed to GRANDFATHERS and LITTLE BOYS included on the other side of the fence? You are making it sound like a 'little boy' is somehow a different, better kind of customer, where he too has interest in specific game types after all...

So, a lot of women think gamers are losers, and yet at the same time they think gamers are cool and lie about playing games themselves, to too appear cool..? Something tells me you didn't really give your own arguments a second thought as you were inventing them on the fly "

Isn't this a 'chicken and egg' thing? Trends and markets are to large extent formed by marketing nowadays, rather than just catered to. So as long as the current trend is "games are boys' thing" and there is no marketing push to change attitudes of people, probability to actually see any sort of change is little, and the change itself is going to be extremely slow. The very lack of attempt becomes the best excuse to do nothing. ::cue Kreia with her "know the right spots to apply a push and you can bring the house down" speech::

Well, _technically_ Revan doesn't exist. I don't see a problem, really. like many said, Revan can be whatever gender you prefer. The comic books you mention are aimed at those who prefer Revan as male, that's all. (if the publishers were really shrewd they'd follow the game's footsteps and make two versions with possibly slight differences to storyline ... if just to rack in more cash by covering both angles and getting twice the money from these who'd want to have 'full' story) btw, being able to choose the gender, race and alignment in game has very little to do with _roleplaying_ ... as roleplaying is the ability to _play_ the role of someone you are _not_, gender, race, alignment and fashion sense or lack thereof included "

And if it doesn't, i present the alternative... be careful what you wish for, for male Revan might end up like this

Try this instead: http://web.telia.com/~u42704646/Kotor/BaoDur.swf this is direct link to the flash thingie on that page... right-click, "save as..." to your hard-drive, then just drag-and-drop the downloaded file into IExplorer window to view it? this way you can be sure it's completely loaded... ^^;