OneWithStrange

The portrait you have as your avatar (and who is also your Leia Emperius, I'm guessing) is my Morne Lorr -Ben

I'm sure a lot of people have come up with really creative names for both Revan and the Exile in K1 and K2, respectively. So, let's hear them! I've no problem revealing mine, as long as we all acknowledge intellectual copyright Male Revan (DS): Xavior Halon Female Revan (LS): Sierra S'y Female Revan (DS): Alexa Flaire Male Exile (DS): Drake Orbin Male Exile (DS): Versai Wreyn Female Exile (LS): Morne Lorr -Ben

Well, yeah, she only has one hand -Ben

Darth Malak was clearly a Sith Lord, although not a very good one. Favoring wanton destruction over strategy is a big mistake, to say the least. If Kreia were a Sith Lord, she'd make a much better one than he. -Ben

Darth Nuke, ever consider applying for a job with the LucasFilm continuity people? -Ben

Oh yeah? I'm exercising my God-given right to post here, so you can like it or not " See what I mean? -Ben

<_< This has already been done to death, man. Just because you have the 'right' to do so, doesn't mean you should, or even that it is in good taste. We can start a big discussion about how a company changed something to suit their tastes, but ultimately, it was their decision. If you don't like it, well... tough. Best you could do is pretend it never happened. -Ben

Considering that we only see half her face, anyone would make a good Visas " Carry on. -Ben

I couldn't say there was a 'worst' dark side act because I never felt bad for any of 'em. To heck with the Jedi Code, I want power! Rarr!! Seriously, my personal favorites were Force Choking the Czerka officer in the Tatooine cantina ("You will show me the proper respect!"), having Zaalbar kill Mission, and destroying the kolto supply in KoTOR 1. I didn't find any particularly bad ones in KoTOR 2. -Ben

What about the torture session between HK-47 and an HK-50? It being cut would go along with your observation, Hive. -Ben

The "No, Atton! I think it is a trap!" was Obsidian Entertainment poking fun at Disciple's character and underlining his personality. I thought that small scene was hilarious -Ben

I really like how TSL leaves a lot of stuff open and allows the player to basically formulate their own inner plot to make sense of the loose threads. Maybe that's just me trying to make good of an incomplete game, but this approach is a lot more intriguing than having everything explained right away. On burning questions like this, Forna, though, I really wish we could just ask Obsidian and get a response -Ben

Forna K. Shan, I have been wondering the same thing, but then I thought that we don't know if the Exile survived or not. We don't seem him\her in Darth Traya's death cinematic, and all we see of the Ebon Hawk is it flying off (LS) or being destroyed (DS). Maybe they cut out the explanation on how the Exile rid him\herself of the force bond? -Ben

Same here. However, I'll be sure to talk to him my second time through. -Ben

Bao-Dur: Have you seen my remote, HK? HK-47: Lie: No, resident tech head, I have not. Bao-Dur: Oh... okay then. -Ben

Damn, wish I knew about that sooner. Cyan is a favorite of mine. -Ben

It's tragic, yes, but 'style' overrules the correct usage of the English language. That's nothing new. -Ben

I entirely agree, witchzenka. I really liked how they brought out the characters this time around. And I never felt as if most of my party was useless (I very rarely used Zaalbar, Mission, T3-M4 or Juhani in KoTOR). Don't beat yourselves up, Obsidian. You did a great job and succeeded in making an enjoyable and richly-detailed game. Rejoice in knowing you did the best you could in the time given to you. Just thought I'd let you know :cool: -Ben

Well, if you're waiting for a perfect game, you'll be waiting a long time. Especially one that can be made in one year. There are only so many things we as consumers can criticize about a game before it just gets repetitive and old. Obsidian has already heard the same complaints over and over again, and what do we expect to achieve? Many would sooner overlook the highs of TSL and give credit to Obsidian for what hard work they put into the game. Sure many people aren't satisfied, but enough is enough. There's absolutely no need to punish a new gaming company in this way if one enjoyed playing TSL in the least. Obsidian is obviously a capable and talented developer, they probably just underestimated the task before them. Let's hope LucasArts can loosen their policy concerning KoTOR 3. -Ben

How about a prequel, instead? -Ben

I'll start off by stressing that it is not my intention to start a flamewar. So if you have anything negative to say, please state so in a considerate and polite fashion. There's a lot of harsh criticism at these forums concerning how buggy or incomplete KoTOR2: TSL was. A lot of people are taking out their frustrations on Obsidian, and not in a good, constructive way. You see, we know that TSL seemed like an unfinished product. And yes, there are a lot of bugs. But you are greatly mistaken if you feel Obsidian is solely to blame. There are politics at play, here. Obsidian was allowed a strict and unrealistic amount of development time (one year) for TSL by LucasArts. (I think I read somewhere that KoTOR received three years, feel free to correct me on this.) However, Obsidian cannot take full responsibility for TSL because in doing so, they'd have to point the finger at LucasArts, which they certainly should not do if Obsidian wants to take on KoTOR 3. But seriously, guys. The early parts of the game were great, with the exception of a few bugs (which could have been fixed with the addition of more development time, I am sure). And the cut content they originally developed (dialogue, the droid planet, character backgrounds) sounds really good. I say we cut Obsidian a break and congratulate them for doing as good a job as they could in the time alotted to them. Obsidian is a new company that hasn't yet been able to show its true potential, and they need our support more than ever. EDIT: Mods, feel free to move this topic if you see fit to do so. -Ben

Kudos on Atton's line about the run-away T3. I also especially loved "Tell me I'm not going to jail again." -Ben

Or maybe it's a guy going "Ogh yfhm hwor" with a really sinister tone. -Ben

Exile: *squish* Wha... oh hell, bad Hanharr! - - - - - - Bao-Dur: General, do you have a few moments? Exile: 1. Certainly, I'm always here for you, you're my favorite party member. 2. Not now, Thorney, I'm meditating. 3. [ignore him.] 4. [Force Choke him.] -Ben

Atton: Okay then, so it's settled. Handmaiden gets the cargo hold, Bao-Dur gets the garage, I get the top bunk and- Disciple: Hey! Atton: What now, you fruit? Disciple: I want the top bunk! The player character said I could have it! Atton: Oh yeah? Well, the 'Exile' is in Iziz right now. So for now, that b*tch is mine. -Ben