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http://www.sylvantech.com/~talin/names.shtml http://www.kleimo.com/random/name.cfm http://spitfire.ausys.se/johan/names/ Try those.

I think she looks fine in the concept art - attractive in a dark way. You can't really make out her face, but she doesn't have a huge jaw in horse lips in the concept art. Or do you think she does?

I understand the name-roles of all the devs in the various games, but I want to know something more specific - who wrote in PS: T or fallout, and in what capacity?

Yup. And I'm fairly certain most of the screenshots were taken of an old build, one made for the E3 demo. Still, we're pretty close to release here.

Right. So Diablo II puts you in just as much role as PS: T? BS. You know, you can't have a GAME that has that sort of freedom. In fallout, I couldn't suddenly stop my quest and become the mayor of a town, now could I? No, it wouldn't be the same game, and they'd have to essentially make a NEW game that involved being the mayor of a town. You can do that in Fable, but I can imagine Fable will have a crappier story than Diablo II, despite the choice... The common, GOOD (in my opinion) cRPG is based around playing the role in a story. Programming has to be defined, and thus a story is the best way to do that. PnP can do "real life" role-playing, but when you do that there's not an over-arching story. The story, in fact, is the reason people read fiction. Diablo II is an artwork only so far as the aspects of making a terribly over-simplified, out-of-balance skill system is - and a plot that makes comic books look like shakespeare. A game can give you choice, but only so much as dev time will give you. When I say choice, sure I mean an illusion; but can you prove it's not like that in real life? You could, well, choose not to eat and then starve to death - but would you? When a game is heavily motivated by plot, you won't have the same illusion of choice you have in real life, as instead of being focused around such basics as food and and breathing and life and reproduction, it's focused on a STORYLINE! *GASP* ... which Diablo II basically lacks. It has about as much story as X-Com did, and X-Com was still a fun game. But it had no plot, and I hold no illusion that it did... If you just thought KotOR's story was crap, I would like proof. The fact is, though, that I played the game as well, and have thusly already made my judgement independent from your own. If you can prove KotOR wasn't driven by story, well... you have my kudos, because that's quite an amazing feat.

She hates your guts and you are still acting like her little doggy! I dont think she was joking about what she said. She owns you an apology as much as to any other person here she insulted for know apparent reason. If you looked at the link to that thread, you'd realize she was joking. If you are just trying to bring up a fight, well... that's just sad. Accept reality and stop whining about past arguments. To everyone else: (PSST!! Don't say anything... let him steam over and make an ass of himself until he stops) Steam over? I said I was not going to bring it up anymore and I wont.... So go on now make an ass of yourself and dont steam too much.... You were, in THAT post, bringing up a very,very dead horse. Sorry that I missed what came after that.

And you get turn on by what is bio-electric discharges in your brain. Things are as real as your brain tells us, there is no diference of playboy maganize and a adult comic, your body simply reacts to what your brain tells you to react. That's certainly not what I meant. And, well, maybe you don't understand this - but those said reactions in the brain ARE the reaction that you have in your head. However, I suppose you're trying to argue that you have no control over it, and that it's obnoxious to criticise that about people. Well, it is, but that's not precisely what I was doing. I don't care if you're attracted to pixels - I just think it's comparable to when I was in late grade school and looked up naughty words so I'd get a boner. I look back on that now with a sympathetic eye, (as with looking at pixels for a boner, and like I said: it's more or less the description, the representation, rather than the pixels) but I would still say it's sad. So yes, sorry for offending you. However, I've had enough experience with pixels and "naughty" words that my mind tunes those things out as not-so-real, or perhaps I should say: sexually ineffective. In case you hadn't noticed or seen, I think Bastila is attractive. Now... where the hell were you when others were saying that exact same thing, only harsher? I've never said it's because they're lonely, because they're chauvinistic, because they're stupid and don't understand pixels aren't real. So really, I know you seem to have a giant grudge against me, but you need to cool it. I'm really sorry for offending you, but I was trying to make a point against other's that were saying the exact thing you seem to have been so offended by just now.

Wow. You either totally skipped the dialogue, or never actually played the game. I suspect the latter; that you're saying that just to prove Diablo II is quality. An impossiblity, though, considering how boring it is... The most that you can RP in diablo II is to say, "I'm the main character. Look at me!! !" ... but no. that's not the same thing as having choices, and actually being involved in discussion.

I'd say Jolee was my favorite, by far, other than Bastila. He had more depth than bastila, even - but I have mixed feelings bringing him back to party. One, isn't Kreia filling the mentor role? That would take a lot of his style out. Might be funny to have the two argue, though. Old people flirting... tehee...how cute. But seriously, as with Bastila: I'd sort of prefer to have him as a temporary party member, or just a brief enough appearance to see where he is. It feels... wrong, somehow, to get to know a character once and then have to get to know them all over again from a different perspective. Let them be Revan's story.

My point still stands: Have you seen anyone roleplay in Diablo II? I do plenty of roleplaying in KotOR. I will admit that Diablo II is an RPG in the vaguest sense, and certainly in the sense I thought of it before really thinking about it...

She hates your guts and you are still acting like her little doggy! I dont think she was joking about what she said. She owns you an apology as much as to any other person here she insulted for know apparent reason. If you looked at the link to that thread, you'd realize she was joking. If you are just trying to bring up a fight, well... that's just sad. Accept reality and stop whining about past arguments. To everyone else: (PSST!! Don't say anything... let him steam over and make an ass of himself until he stops)

I've known guys with girlfriends - plenty even - with that exact attitude (of course, I'm talking about high school - but I can imagine it happening with young adults as well). No, you just have to get past the initial shock of puberty. By the way: at your second "exactly"

If NWN tried to copy Diablo II, that would explain why it's combat system is so uterrly boring.

Massage tends to have sexual undertones, and THAT is certainly implied. How the heck would you know how easy the animations are to do? Did you notice how many problems with clipping there are in that game? Did you notice the sh*tty dance animations for the Starlight entertainers quest?

No choice of appearance within each class, meaning a group of five sorceress' will all be female, and every one of them will look exactly alike... except for clothing. Also, most of Diablo II is getting Uber items and filling up your inventory with them, which just involves clicking on the ground faster than everyone else. I have never once seen a Diablo II player even try to roleplay, and there's a reason for that. There isn't any actual character, evidenced by dialogue exactly the same every time you play no matter what class, no depth in the background story; not to mention that crappy pseudo-christian self-pretentious "El Diablo" BS. Is there any party banter in Diablo II? Are there true character interactions in Diablo II? No, I'm afraid - just monologues which proclaim the story, which is basically bypassed anyway for no one really caring. The heart of KotOR was the story. Obviously, if you didn't care for it, there was little for you there to enjoy...

I DON'T CARE! Christ, I was just trying to say: There's Leia, then there's Bastila, then there's Padme (sort of), then there's Atris?

Ummmmm.... required conversations, yeah, but you actually make dialogue choices. Plus, there's actually a story with depth in it.

It's the "spirit" of the character. People find attractive characters in a book by their descriptions and their character, and this isn't much different - their pixels are technically their description, and their voice and dialogue are their character. It's pretty sad when people get turned on even by the suggestion (read: pixels) of half-naked women. Well, not if you've had any contact with woman as people and have thusly matured to the point it doesn't. Or, well, it could just be a matter of how far past puberty you are - rarely how lonely, since I think most sane lonely people never reach that point. However, it's not sad (extending to the far extreme which no one seems to have expressed yet) just for pixels being attractive. Like I said, it's the description - your imagination does the rest, and that's why the relatively obvious deformities in character models don't bother us.

Yeah, but the point still is that "princess" meant something else (I put that in an odd way - I need sleep). In the star wars universe, woman aren't screechy and useless...

Leia hardly ever needed rescuing - in fact, Han was rescued by Leia. I was just talking about personality.

christ - just drop it. The fighting's long over. But please, spam away. That's more productive.

To quote myself from another thread: "I'm looking forward to seeing who Atris really is. I guess we can all assume she's the "princess," whether more like Bastila or Leia or something totally different. Hopefully something totally different - but the game still needs a princess of some sort to woo I'm surprised no one's ever mentioned the possibility of fighting over one NPC with another for romance purposes. Ahh, the glory that is making an ass of yourself. It would be fun - they should have it in the game. " Mind that last paragraph. We NEED that feature. I mean, hey, any game has you being fought over (most obnoxiously) why not get the player to do the fighting? Of course, they wouldn't have to fight, and preferrably they'd drop it with you after a couple times you showed you didn't want to even bother.

Evil temptress sith... hmm... that sort of reminds me of Ust' Natha, the handmaiden. You know, Atris is probably one of the most talked about characters, yet we've never even seen her in a screenshot, (thought maybe one, and it's still up - can't see her face though) and we've not heard a single bit about her. But yeah... I'm looking forward to seeing who Atris really is. I guess we can all assume she's the "princess," whether more like Bastila or Leia or something totally different. Hopefully something totally different - but the game still needs a princess of some sort to woo I'm surprised no one's ever mentioned the possibility of fighting over one NPC with another for romance purposes. Ahh, the glory that is making an ass of yourself. It would be fun - they should have it in the game.