Tagaziel Posted May 16, 2018 Author Posted May 16, 2018 I think the main thing people are looking for right now is item locations and item stats -- i.e., what is it and where do we get it. Just adding in screenshots of the weapon detail screen would be a good start. But the main thing is a sentence saying where to get it. That's what we're doing, yeah. I've also completed main lists of unique items: Accessories, weapons, armor, pets, etc. and I'm adding to it as I go: https://pillarsofeternity.gamepedia.com/Pillars_of_Eternity_II:_Deadfire_accessories If you find any, just hit the edit button and add them if you can. HMIC for: [ The Wasteland Wiki ] [ Pillars of Eternity Wiki ] [ Tyranny Wiki ]
JerekKruger Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 (edited) All single handed weapons done. For some reason the spear Kahua Hozi was on the Cadhu Scalth page (Cadhu Scalth is a large shield) so I created a new page for Kahua Hozi and deleted the contents of Cadhu Scalth so that it'll no longer appear in "Category:Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire spears". Also the symbols for Crush/Pierce and Slash/Pierce aren't working at the moment. EDIT: by the way the War Hammer Resounding Call gives its damage as 25-35 in game. This includes the +100% bonus vs. destructibles but most the time, when it matters, you won't be fighting destructibles. As such I listed its damage as 14-20 in the Wiki (same as any other Exceptional War Hammer) and made a note that it is listed as 25-35 in game. The note hasn't formatted properly, though it is readable, so feel free to edit it to make it look nicer. Edited May 16, 2018 by JerekKruger
JerekKruger Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 And I've just finished the two-handed weapons and, hence, all weapons. It would be good if we could add equivalent pages to https://pillarsofeternity.gamepedia.com/Pillars_of_Eternity_unique_melee_weapons and https://pillarsofeternity.gamepedia.com/Pillars_of_Eternity_unique_ranged_weapons for Deadfire. I don't understand the source for those pages so I can't use it as a template for creating equivalent ones for Deadfire. Also should we use "/Pillars_of_Eternity_II_Deadfire_unique_melee_weapons" or simply "/Deadfire_unique_melee_weapons" for the url?
Tagaziel Posted May 16, 2018 Author Posted May 16, 2018 And I've just finished the two-handed weapons and, hence, all weapons. It would be good if we could add equivalent pages to https://pillarsofeternity.gamepedia.com/Pillars_of_Eternity_unique_melee_weapons and https://pillarsofeternity.gamepedia.com/Pillars_of_Eternity_unique_ranged_weapons for Deadfire. I don't understand the source for those pages so I can't use it as a template for creating equivalent ones for Deadfire. Also should we use "/Pillars_of_Eternity_II_Deadfire_unique_melee_weapons" or simply "/Deadfire_unique_melee_weapons" for the url? Splitting the pages in the long term is good. The ultimate goal is to have an autogenerated Cargo table, rather the fixed one in place, but my concern is to get functional content out first. HMIC for: [ The Wasteland Wiki ] [ Pillars of Eternity Wiki ] [ Tyranny Wiki ]
JerekKruger Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 Yeah I saw your used cargo in the Pillars page which I assume auto retrieved all appropriate data, but I have no idea how to write one myself. Perhaps I'll focus on inputting details for armour, shields and various accessories for now.
Tagaziel Posted May 16, 2018 Author Posted May 16, 2018 Awesome. Whenever I find a page filled in, I get a warm fuzzy feeling. It helps. Especially when I realized I left the cheats on and now I don't get achievements. Bummer. 1 HMIC for: [ The Wasteland Wiki ] [ Pillars of Eternity Wiki ] [ Tyranny Wiki ]
JerekKruger Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 There's a mod that allows you to use iroll20s without disabling achievements. I used it to get the broken blade of the endless paths and can confirm I got achievements afterwards.
Tagaziel Posted May 17, 2018 Author Posted May 17, 2018 Can you link me to it? I'd like to take down two Thaoses with one stone. HMIC for: [ The Wasteland Wiki ] [ Pillars of Eternity Wiki ] [ Tyranny Wiki ]
JerekKruger Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 Yep: https://github.com/SonicZentropy/PoE2Mods.pw/releases
JerekKruger Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 Question: do you have a guide on how "cargo" works? I've looked it up but can't really understand it and having looked at the source code for the unique weapons pages for PoE1 and the various weapons therein I can't see what's different there that would make them appear and not the Deadfire unique weapons, or indeed how to make an equivalent for Deadfire. This is mostly to sate my appetite to learn, I can hold off making such a page I just don't like that I can't work out how it works.
Sodalitas Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 I just found this thread, and I just want to say thanks to all the users and especially Tagaziel for kickstarting work on the Deadfire wiki! I've been editing pages as I do my first playthrough, mostly just for the sake of learning how to edit the wiki, apply templates etc. And of course, contributing information on item stats and acquisition information because I think that's what many people will be accessing the wiki to find. Anyway, I just found the Blightheart in-game and gave it to Aloth, so I'm slowly editing the Blightheart page as it grows with Aloth. I used the Soulbound weapon table from the POE1 wiki (Stormcaller to be precise) and basically hid all the entries that I don't have data for. Hope this isn't stepping on anyone's toes, and if I am, please let me know. Looking forward to contributing more to the wiki!
JerekKruger Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 Looks good Sodalitas. I held off adding Soulbounds because they lacked a template but if the PoE1 one works that's great and I can add the other Soulbounds as well.
eschu101 Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 Thanks for your work. Also, we really need a interactive abilitie tree available for web, just like the ingame. 1
Luridel Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 I am absolutely stunned by how much work has been done on the wiki already. I've been chipping away at pet locations; just started a new playthrough and I think I might make that my new pet project (pun notwithstanding). My approach is the opposite: Show the weapon's damage after bonuses apply, since each weapon type has an intrinsic base damage that's modified by the bonuses/enchantments. That's the practice for every unique item, especially since my intention is to allow for casually glancing at the infobox and figuring out what the damage is, without having to calculate them by enchantments. So - is there a way to figure this out at a glance without having a character in your party who has exactly 10 might?
lunattic Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 I haven't added to the wiki yet, but I'm keeping a word document of every unique item I come across: the stats, where to find it and what the upgrades are. It's not complete yet since I started doing this roughly 30% into my playthrough and thus am missing quite a bit, but I'm trying to keep it as complete as i can. If someone wants to start entering what i have into the wiki then I could share the file as I have it now. 1
JerekKruger Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 Shields done. I took the executive decision to include a unique shield's quality bonus in its Deflection field. The game itself doesn't do this so all small shields will list themselves as having +4 Deflection in their information window regardless of the quality enchantment they carry, but I felt for the Wiki it was more useful to have the actual Deflection bonus given visible at a glance. 5
JerekKruger Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 Plate, brigandine, mail, scale and breastplate armors all done. At the moment there is a recovery speed entry (a holdover from PoE) but in Deadfire it's recovery time so the entry is slightly misleading (makes plate look like it speeds you up).
Tagaziel Posted May 18, 2018 Author Posted May 18, 2018 (edited) I celebrate that! On the walkthrough front, I'm finally MOSTLY done with Neketaka. Unfortunately, I can't seem to get that mod to function, it keeps insisting on trying to get the DLLs from pillarsofeternity2_data/pillarsofeternity2_data instead of pillarsofeternity2_data/data :/ So - is there a way to figure this out at a glance without having a character in your party who has exactly 10 might? It should give you the base values when you loot the item or acquire it via dialogue. Basically, whenever I see a gold background, I go "STOP WIKI TIME" (I kid, I have the wiki open on the other monitor and just hammer the data in as I play). Thanks for your work. Also, we really need a interactive abilitie tree available for web, just like the ingame. A good idea. I even know of a template that (might) be of use) I am absolutely stunned by how much work has been done on the wiki already. I've been chipping away at pet locations; just started a new playthrough and I think I might make that my new pet project (pun notwithstanding). We really need an Eder emote here I haven't added to the wiki yet, but I'm keeping a word document of every unique item I come across: the stats, where to find it and what the upgrades are. It's not complete yet since I started doing this roughly 30% into my playthrough and thus am missing quite a bit, but I'm trying to keep it as complete as i can. If someone wants to start entering what i have into the wiki then I could share the file as I have it now. You can PM them to me or share in the thread. That'd be of tremendous help. Edited May 18, 2018 by Tagaziel 1 HMIC for: [ The Wasteland Wiki ] [ Pillars of Eternity Wiki ] [ Tyranny Wiki ]
JerekKruger Posted May 19, 2018 Posted May 19, 2018 So - is there a way to figure this out at a glance without having a character in your party who has exactly 10 might? If you mouseover the damage entry in the weapon window (right click a weapon) it'll open a little tooltip that breaks down the damage: something like Base Damage 15-20 + 15% Fine + 24% Might = 20-27.
Sodalitas Posted May 19, 2018 Posted May 19, 2018 It should give you the base values when you loot the item or acquire it via dialogue. Basically, whenever I see a gold background, I go "STOP WIKI TIME" (I kid, I have the wiki open on the other monitor and just hammer the data in as I play). Hahaha, I totally understand what you mean. Only I'm not kidding because I only have one monitor
JerekKruger Posted May 19, 2018 Posted May 19, 2018 (edited) All armours are now done. On the front page, in the Deadfire section, Grimoires appears twice. I don't have permission to edit this page so someone else will have to get rid of it. Most Headgear done as well, but the Wiki has stopped responding on my end so I can't quite finish them off. EDIT: Quickly finished off all headgear this morning. Edited May 20, 2018 by JerekKruger 1
Sodalitas Posted May 20, 2018 Posted May 20, 2018 Seeking some clarification on which is preferable: should we be updating item acquisition details into the Infobox array, or typing it as text under the Acquisition heading? I've been using the Infobox arrays, but some other articles have them written under the Acquisition heading and not in the arrays.
Tagaziel Posted May 20, 2018 Author Posted May 20, 2018 Seeking some clarification on which is preferable: should we be updating item acquisition details into the Infobox array, or typing it as text under the Acquisition heading? I've been using the Infobox arrays, but some other articles have them written under the Acquisition heading and not in the arrays. Infobox, since it automatically parses them. I'm moving them as I go. Also, I need to do the recipes tomorrow. For crafting. 2 HMIC for: [ The Wasteland Wiki ] [ Pillars of Eternity Wiki ] [ Tyranny Wiki ]
Ascaloth Posted May 21, 2018 Posted May 21, 2018 Guys, great work here with the wiki so far. But... it would be great if all of the available upgrades are listed in the entries for each unique item as well? After all, these upgrades have different additional effects and are mutually exclusive, and this information could be useful for future theorycrafting of builds.
Tagaziel Posted May 21, 2018 Author Posted May 21, 2018 I'm currently working on that part. I took a break from the data for a while, because I kind of burned myself out on all the item data beforehand. Also! http://www.gamepedia.com/slackinvite This is our OFFICIAL SUPER-DUPER CONTRIBUTOR SLACK, where we also have a Pillars Wiki channel. In case you need to get a hold of me, anyone else, or need some help understanding Cargo, this is the place to go. HMIC for: [ The Wasteland Wiki ] [ Pillars of Eternity Wiki ] [ Tyranny Wiki ]
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