Politics 2017 Part 3

[213374U]

A new bill has been introduced into the State Assembly to use the tax dollars of hard working folks to subsidize low cost beach vacations for the "poor". Wow What a great place to be poor huh? If you work for the city of San Francisco you can get a free sex change and a trip to the beach, all paid for by your fellow citizens.

 

From what I read, the bill aims to develop new and maintain already existing low-cost lodgings, not "subsidize vacations for the poor". Looks to me that you could benefit from that yourself, if you wanted to, but I could be wrong. A band-aid at best, as far as addressing wealth inequality is concerned.

 

And the Oroville Dam seems to have failed because of cavitation-related damage which wasn't considered when it was designed ~50 years ago, not because of the international left's conspiracy to sap and impurify all of your precious bodily fluids. Wiki also says the 2005 request to reinforce the emergency spillway was turned down by Federal authorities, not commies in the Cali assembly.

[Chilloutman]

 

A new bill has been introduced into the State Assembly to use the tax dollars of hard working folks to subsidize low cost beach vacations for the "poor". Wow What a great place to be poor huh? If you work for the city of San Francisco you can get a free sex change and a trip to the beach, all paid for by your fellow citizens.

 

From what I read, the bill aims to develop new and maintain already existing low-cost lodgings, not "subsidize vacations for the poor". Looks to me that you could benefit from that yourself, if you wanted to, but I could be wrong. A band-aid at best, as far as addressing wealth inequality is concerned.

 

And the Oroville Dam seems to have failed because of cavitation-related damage which wasn't considered when it was designed ~50 years ago, not because of the international left's conspiracy to sap and impurify all of your precious bodily fluids. Wiki also says the 2005 request to reinforce the emergency spillway was turned down by Federal authorities, not commies in the Cali assembly.

 

 

Edited February 21, 2017 by Chilloutman

[Chilloutman]

Will have to check later but also the level of the conflict matters as well.

 

here you go:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conflicts_in_Africa

 

just last few years:

 

21st Century

2001–present War on Terrorism

1997–present Islamic Terrorism in Egypt

2002–present Islamic insurgency in the Maghreb

2002–present Operation Enduring Freedom - Horn of Africa

2006 Rise of the Islamic Courts Union

2006–2009 Ethiopian War in Somalia

2007–present Operation Enduring Freedom - Trans Sahara

2009–present Islamist civil war in Somalia

2009 2009 Nigerian sectarian violence

2001–2003 Central African Republic civil war

2002–2003 Ivorian Civil War

2003–present War in Darfur

2004 French–Ivorian clashes

2004–present Conflict in the Niger Delta

2004–2007 Central African Republic Bush War

2004–present Kivu conflict

2005–2010 Chadian Civil War

2005–2008 Mount Elgon insurgency

2007–2009 Second Tuareg Rebellion

2007–2008 Kenyan crisis

2008 Invasion of Anjouan

2008 Djiboutian–Eritrean border conflict

2009 Sudan airstrikes

2011 Second Ivorian Civil War

2011 Libyan Civil War

2012 Tuareg rebellion

2014 Second Libyan Civil War

Edited February 21, 2017 by Chilloutman

[Malcador]

Well ongoing ones. Am on mobile so is pain in rear with my eyes

 

Probably figure all ongoing ones aren't low level insurgencies though.

[Wrath of Dagon]

And the Oroville Dam seems to have failed because of cavitation-related damage which wasn't considered when it was designed ~50 years ago, not because of the international left's conspiracy to sap and impurify all of your precious bodily fluids. Wiki also says the 2005 request to reinforce the emergency spillway was turned down by Federal authorities, not commies in the Cali assembly.

From what I read, Cali authorities were against the 2005 request because they didn't want to pay for it, and the feds went along.

 

Interesting graphic:

 

 

Edit: lol https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/833834425653788672

 

Edit2: Note to Swedish government, this is how you handle headscarfs: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-election-lepen-idUSKBN1600R6

Edited February 21, 2017 by Wrath of Dagon

[Chilloutman]

Well ongoing ones. Am on mobile so is pain in rear with my eyes

 

Probably figure all ongoing ones aren't low level insurgencies though.

 

yeah low level insurgencies can't be probably even counted there

[Malcador]

Kind of funny to read that from Cheong.

 

Not sure there are so many as to not be able to be counted. Is tempting to think of Africa as some sort of nightmarish land of war, but that belies reality I feel

Edited February 21, 2017 by Malcador

[Chilloutman]

Not sure who Cheong is but:

 

http://www.economist.com/blogs/baobab/2014/07/africas-deadly-insurgencies

 

http://www.worldatlas.com/articles/most-dangerous-cities-in-africa.html

 

 

well, and i guess there are many local crimelords:

 

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Violent-crime/Murder-rate-per-million-people

 

also for Canda:

 

http://rabble.ca/news/2012/04/new-film-tells-about-roma-or-gypsies-canada-wants-keep-out

Edited February 21, 2017 by Chilloutman

[Guard Dog]

The Oroville Dam was built by CALIFORNIA Department of Water Resources as part of the CALIFORNIA State Water Project to provide irrigation and electric power to San Joaquin Valley (which is in CALIFORNIA). I missed the part where the FEDERAL Government had anything to do with that. The State of California has the 2nd highest state tax burden in the Unites States. Seems to me Sacramento should be using the money taken from the sweat and labor of it's citizens and fixing it's infrastructure rather than wasting it trying to subsidize low cost beach accommodations. Besides California has some 1400 KM of coastline, there are MANY places where it is inexpensive to vacation. In fact there are many National and State Parks on the ocean that cost almost nothing to visit. Rather than solve problems that sound good but are not really problems perhaps the folks in Sacramento should do what they are supposed to be doing.

[aluminiumtrioxid]

 

A new bill has been introduced into the State Assembly to use the tax dollars of hard working folks to subsidize low cost beach vacations for the "poor". Wow What a great place to be poor huh? If you work for the city of San Francisco you can get a free sex change and a trip to the beach, all paid for by your fellow citizens.

 

From what I read, the bill aims to develop new and maintain already existing low-cost lodgings, not "subsidize vacations for the poor". Looks to me that you could benefit from that yourself, if you wanted to, but I could be wrong. A band-aid at best, as far as addressing wealth inequality is concerned.

 

 

Frankly I'm more baffled at the outrage over free gender reassignment surgery 

[Chilloutman]

 

 

A new bill has been introduced into the State Assembly to use the tax dollars of hard working folks to subsidize low cost beach vacations for the "poor". Wow What a great place to be poor huh? If you work for the city of San Francisco you can get a free sex change and a trip to the beach, all paid for by your fellow citizens.

 

From what I read, the bill aims to develop new and maintain already existing low-cost lodgings, not "subsidize vacations for the poor". Looks to me that you could benefit from that yourself, if you wanted to, but I could be wrong. A band-aid at best, as far as addressing wealth inequality is concerned.

 

 

Frankly I'm more baffled at the outrage over free gender reassignment surgery 

 

 

what is so baffling about it?

[Guard Dog]

Another example of Government run amok. Massaging a horse (for free) in Tennessee will land you in jail for six months and a $500 fine: http://reason.com/blog/2017/02/17/woman-could-go-to-jail-for-horse-massage

 

I live in Tennessee and I've found it to be on of the more same and reasonable states. What does THAT say? I'm reminded of a quote by H.L Mencken "The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable."

[Guard Dog]

 

 

A new bill has been introduced into the State Assembly to use the tax dollars of hard working folks to subsidize low cost beach vacations for the "poor". Wow What a great place to be poor huh? If you work for the city of San Francisco you can get a free sex change and a trip to the beach, all paid for by your fellow citizens.

 

From what I read, the bill aims to develop new and maintain already existing low-cost lodgings, not "subsidize vacations for the poor". Looks to me that you could benefit from that yourself, if you wanted to, but I could be wrong. A band-aid at best, as far as addressing wealth inequality is concerned.

 

 

Frankly I'm more baffled at the outrage over free gender reassignment surgery 

 

That is ELECTIVE surgery! C'mon. If you have a state policy and need a coronary bypass then sign here... you're covered. But no one is going to die because the state refused to pay for them to become man surgically disguised as a woman (or vice versa). Why not pay for nose jobs and breast augmentations then?

 

Or maybe they do. Meanwhile over in Oroville... tick tock tick tock

[aluminiumtrioxid]

 

 

 

A new bill has been introduced into the State Assembly to use the tax dollars of hard working folks to subsidize low cost beach vacations for the "poor". Wow What a great place to be poor huh? If you work for the city of San Francisco you can get a free sex change and a trip to the beach, all paid for by your fellow citizens.

 

From what I read, the bill aims to develop new and maintain already existing low-cost lodgings, not "subsidize vacations for the poor". Looks to me that you could benefit from that yourself, if you wanted to, but I could be wrong. A band-aid at best, as far as addressing wealth inequality is concerned.

 

 

Frankly I'm more baffled at the outrage over free gender reassignment surgery 

 

 

what is so baffling about it?

 

 

Well, the usual argument against any sort of inclusion of trans people in media is that they are such a teensy-tiny impossibly small minority you might as well not bother, right? And to qualify for gender reassignment surgery, not only do you need to be trans, but you actually need a qualified psychiatrist determine that not doing the surgery poses a severe risk to your mental health and HRT and assorted treatments no longer cut it, which makes any people who qualify a small minority of an even smaller minority. I have a hard time imagining that actual taxpayer money spent on this would ever rise above "this is practically chump change" levels. A rounding error.

[Chilloutman]

 

 

 

 

A new bill has been introduced into the State Assembly to use the tax dollars of hard working folks to subsidize low cost beach vacations for the "poor". Wow What a great place to be poor huh? If you work for the city of San Francisco you can get a free sex change and a trip to the beach, all paid for by your fellow citizens.

 

From what I read, the bill aims to develop new and maintain already existing low-cost lodgings, not "subsidize vacations for the poor". Looks to me that you could benefit from that yourself, if you wanted to, but I could be wrong. A band-aid at best, as far as addressing wealth inequality is concerned.

 

 

Frankly I'm more baffled at the outrage over free gender reassignment surgery 

 

 

what is so baffling about it?

 

 

Well, the usual argument against any sort of inclusion of trans people in media is that they are such a teensy-tiny impossibly small minority you might as well not bother, right? And to qualify for gender reassignment surgery, not only do you need to be trans, but you actually need a qualified psychiatrist determine that not doing the surgery poses a severe risk to your mental health and HRT and assorted treatments no longer cut it, which makes any people who qualify a small minority of an even smaller minority. I have a hard time imagining that actual taxpayer money spent on this would ever rise above "this is practically chump change" levels. A rounding error.

 

 

Well depends on how you look at it. There is also tiny minority of people who have... I don't know Zika for example, but its life threatening disease. I am not too educated in US health insurances but I think they are pretty strict on which diseases or even medications they cover

[Guard Dog]

 

 

 

 

 

A new bill has been introduced into the State Assembly to use the tax dollars of hard working folks to subsidize low cost beach vacations for the "poor". Wow What a great place to be poor huh? If you work for the city of San Francisco you can get a free sex change and a trip to the beach, all paid for by your fellow citizens.

 

From what I read, the bill aims to develop new and maintain already existing low-cost lodgings, not "subsidize vacations for the poor". Looks to me that you could benefit from that yourself, if you wanted to, but I could be wrong. A band-aid at best, as far as addressing wealth inequality is concerned.

 

 

Frankly I'm more baffled at the outrage over free gender reassignment surgery 

 

 

what is so baffling about it?

 

 

Well, the usual argument against any sort of inclusion of trans people in media is that they are such a teensy-tiny impossibly small minority you might as well not bother, right? And to qualify for gender reassignment surgery, not only do you need to be trans, but you actually need a qualified psychiatrist determine that not doing the surgery poses a severe risk to your mental health and HRT and assorted treatments no longer cut it, which makes any people who qualify a small minority of an even smaller minority. I have a hard time imagining that actual taxpayer money spent on this would ever rise above "this is practically chump change" levels. A rounding error.

 

 

Well depends on how you look at it. There is also tiny minority of people who have... I don't know Zika for example, but its life threatening disease. I am not too educated in US health insurances but I think they are pretty strict on which diseases or even medications they cover

 

No, not really. If a medication or treatment is FDA approved and prescribed by doctor it will be covered. It may not be completely covered or you may get a generic if one is available but you won't be paying it all out of pocket. And after that there are price share clubs and discount clubs like Medi-share and Good RX to lower costs. A lot of folks make US medical care sound like a Darwinist dystopia but that really is not the case. 

 

But dammit I don't think taxpayers should have to cover nose jobs, boob jobs or sex changes!

[ShadySands]

Maybe not a Darwinist dystopia (I like that term btw) but medical bills are the number one reason for brankruptcy in the US by a country mile

[Malcador]

Well sex changes aren't like boob jobs, really.

 

This is the outrage du jour? http://m.ocregister.com/articles/beach-743100-beaches-people.html

[aluminiumtrioxid]

But dammit I don't think taxpayers should have to cover nose jobs, boob jobs or sex changes!

 

Even if it literally costs a fraction of a cent to you, as an individual taxpayer?

[Guard Dog]

Well sex changes aren't like boob jobs, really.

 

This is the outrage du jour? http://m.ocregister.com/articles/beach-743100-beaches-people.html

Yeah I posted that two pages ago. Like I said, it's a non-existent problem. There are many and more miles of beach in that state with affordable and even free accommodations once you get it through your head Santa Barbara, LA, San Jose, etc are going to be expensive and Cosa Mesa and other small towns are not. I grew up in Florida and I can tell you for a fact it is a hell of a lot more expensive to stay in Miami Beach than Crescent Beach but when you are standing on the sand looking at the ocean they both look identical. 

[Guard Dog]

 

But dammit I don't think taxpayers should have to cover nose jobs, boob jobs or sex changes!

 

Even if it literally costs a fraction of a cent to you, as an individual taxpayer?

 

It's the principle. If it costs a penny, I WORKED for that penny. I earned it. Every dollar someone gets without working for someone else worked for without getting it.

Edited February 21, 2017 by Guard Dog

[Gfted1]

I wonder if there is some way I can finagle myself a state subsidized limo driver. I'm just an average schmuck too and I really really really hate traffic. Wont somebody think of the children me?

[Zoraptor]

Edit2: Note to Swedish government, this is how you handle headscarfs: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-election-lepen-idUSKBN1600R6

Go to someone else's country, be told what you needed to do at a meeting then throw a paddy when you actually have to do it- to get domestic political points? I'm not completely anti Le Pen by any means, but that was pure political stunt.

Edited February 21, 2017 by Zoraptor

[Wrath of Dagon]

Yes, but a great one. If you go to someone else's country, and they require you to humiliate yourself, you have a full right to tell them gfy.

[Malcador]

Kind of a low bar for great. Of course, opens one up to have that turned against you when you tell another "When in Rome.."