philares3 Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Talking to the dragon: it should relent if I give the 17 resolve answer. I have 17, on Aloth, not my main character, but doesn't work. I gave Aloth Sagani's hat and that should be 18, but that doesn't register. What to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abaris Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 It doesn't work with anyone but your player passing the checks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukefx Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 (edited) In conversations with NPCs, attribute scores often determine which additional dialog options are unlocked for you to choose from - for example with high Perception you may notice something about the person you're talking to that others wouldn't have, and confront them about it. Since the main character does all the talking in Pillars of Eternity, only his or her attributes are checked in this way - not those of companions. Edited September 28, 2015 by dukefx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuz Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 It doesn't work with anyone but your player passing the checks. This is probably the thing I hate more about this game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oralaina Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 And this is why I've begun playing only high resolve PCs. I HATE having to kill my way through a game. And the only way to not do that in most games of this sort is to finagle around with the "speech" perk (whatever it may be called in any given game). I'm not going into my rant about no way other than killing to advance. Not right now. I suppose you can take it as read though.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heijoushin Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Interesting, I've never been able to talk that dragon out of slaughtering me. So you just need 17 resolve? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorad Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 But it's more fun to kill him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreaColombo Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 I love to be given a peaceful way out ... but not for major set pieces like Alpine Dragon. I would slaughter him if he surrendered XD 2 "Time is not your enemy. Forever is." — Fall-From-Grace, Planescape: Torment "It's the questions we can't answer that teach us the most. They teach us how to think. If you give a man an answer, all he gains is a little fact. But give him a question, and he'll look for his own answers." — Kvothe, The Wise Man's Fears My Deadfire mods: Brilliant Mod | Faster Deadfire | Deadfire Unnerfed | Helwalker Rekke | Permanent Per-Rest Bonuses | PoE Items for Deadfire | No Recyled Icons | Soul Charged Nautilus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elric Galad Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 And this is why I've begun playing only high resolve PCs. I HATE having to kill my way through a game. And the only way to not do that in most games of this sort is to finagle around with the "speech" perk (whatever it may be called in any given game). I'm not going into my rant about no way other than killing to advance. Not right now. I suppose you can take it as read though.... I know 2 RPG where you can "defeat" final Boss by Speaking by the way. They are so famous that it will probably not be a new information for you, but in case you're interested... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oralaina Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 I wouldn't opt for killing ANY boss if given a way to avoid it. Just how I am.... @Elric Galad - I really don't know what games you mean. I don't necessarily follow "famous" names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoner Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 I really makes me sad that Resolve is used so much for talking purposes in this game, basically one of the characters (or maybe the only one?) which benefits from high RES is priest, and I don't want him as PC, not interesting enough as a class for me, they should've make more options... I wouldn't opt for killing ANY boss if given a way to avoid it. Just how I am.... @Elric Galad - I really don't know what games you mean. I don't necessarily follow "famous" names. Don't you ever had a desire to roleplay evil, sadistic, murdering character? Just for the sake of experiment maybe, see how that plays out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreaColombo Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Oralaina - one of the two games is Planescape: Torment, to date one of the best written games one could play. Not sure about the other. Stoner - Paladin and tanky characters in general benefit from RES. It doesn't help that RES governs Deflection, but Deflection had to go somewhere and RES had to contribute something mechanically. I like the fact that RES opens up many dialog options, and I say so despite never playing high-RES characters; it makes sense and it is rewarding for people who pump it (contrary to what usually happens to CHA in D&D games.) "Time is not your enemy. Forever is." — Fall-From-Grace, Planescape: Torment "It's the questions we can't answer that teach us the most. They teach us how to think. If you give a man an answer, all he gains is a little fact. But give him a question, and he'll look for his own answers." — Kvothe, The Wise Man's Fears My Deadfire mods: Brilliant Mod | Faster Deadfire | Deadfire Unnerfed | Helwalker Rekke | Permanent Per-Rest Bonuses | PoE Items for Deadfire | No Recyled Icons | Soul Charged Nautilus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenixp Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 (edited) Oralaina - one of the two games is Planescape: Torment, to date one of the best written games one could play. Not sure about the other.There's quite a few actually. The original Fallout allows you to talk the final boss to death. I'm pretty sure second game does that too. Then there's Mass Effect, but you still get a boss fight, sort of. Age of Decadence can be completed without killing a single person. You could definitely talk your way out of the final boss in Arcanum. Shadowrun: Dragonfall - the new Shadowrun games are generally massively worth playing. I'm sure there's loads more. But yeah, Planescape is a classic. Edited November 26, 2015 by Fenixp 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oralaina Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 @everyone - I won't play any game which requires I play a male toon, no matter how "wonderful" the game. And that goes double for Torment, since I'm very familiar with that universe from years and years of Dragon Mag - and I simply don't like it one bit. That game doesn't need a third strike - it's already out for me, with only two. I liked ME1 - though having to play the later ones through origin (I think it was) meant I just wasn't going there. Bad enough I have to play Skyrim and ME1 through steam.... And the Fallouts - well, yeah, they're really great games. But I grew up in the era where we spent time in school nearly every day going over duck and cover, and what could happen if an atomic bomb happened near us - it got to where I was reliving some of the horrific films we saw in school, in my dreams so I don't play them any more. Yes, it was a long time ago - but it's still revisiting something I'd rather not. PoE and Skyrim (well, TES games generally) suit me fine. They don't really reference anything IRL, and I can play females in them. Yep. I'm nitnoidy that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorad Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 @everyone - I won't play any game which requires I play a male toon, no matter how "wonderful" the game. And that goes double for Torment, since I'm very familiar with that universe from years and years of Dragon Mag - and I simply don't like it one bit. That game doesn't need a third strike - it's already out for me, with only two. I liked ME1 - though having to play the later ones through origin (I think it was) meant I just wasn't going there. Bad enough I have to play Skyrim and ME1 through steam.... And the Fallouts - well, yeah, they're really great games. But I grew up in the era where we spent time in school nearly every day going over duck and cover, and what could happen if an atomic bomb happened near us - it got to where I was reliving some of the horrific films we saw in school, in my dreams so I don't play them any more. Yes, it was a long time ago - but it's still revisiting something I'd rather not. PoE and Skyrim (well, TES games generally) suit me fine. They don't really reference anything IRL, and I can play females in them. Yep. I'm nitnoidy that way. No one is actually forcing you to do anythin... no really... Now we all love b :dancing: bies but we don't go wild screaming about it in the streets or in the forums Anyway back on topic, the safest bet for anyone interested to actually kill the Alpine or the Adra dragon is to reach max level fully geared/rested/fed and then head over there and "end them rightly". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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