So for tank obviously the Knights talent is best. But for dps, Dozens (condition easy to meet)  vs Doemenel talent which one is better?

I know the Knights of the Crucible talent is +2 DR. What are the others?

Dozens: http://pillarsofeternity.gamepedia.com/Mob_Justice

 

Doemenel: http://pillarsofeternity.gamepedia.com/The_Merciless_Hand 

The 2nd link is broken not sure how to edit the post. But basically it's +5 accuracy vs +.3 crit dmg modifier (i guess +100% dmg becomes 130% dmg on crits is what it means).

 

So which one would be better?

wait, what? I thought myself to be a completionist, but I never got one of those three bonus talents. What the hell did I miss, another bug? lol

There was an extended discussion on Wood elf vs Orlan bonus (+5acc vs 10% hit to crit) which concluded with +5acc being superior in almost (if not) all situations (as the increased accuracy resulted in more crits and less misses). While the .3 multiplier is different than the 10% hit to crit, I would think the same logic applies (it is better to, overall, hit more). But maybe you could build a character to take more advantage of the .3 modifier. A crit focused build.

Isn't the accuracy contingent on the target being attacked by allies IIRC? An extra 30% crit damage/duration doesn't seem bad at all in contrast.

The 2nd link is broken not sure how to edit the post. But basically it's +5 accuracy vs +.3 crit dmg modifier (i guess +100% dmg becomes 130% dmg on crits is what it means).

 

So which one would be better?

Regular crits do 50% more base damage, not 100%.  So the altered crit would go from +50% to +80%.

wait, what? I thought myself to be a completionist, but I never got one of those three bonus talents. What the hell did I miss, another bug? lol

Kindly answer this gentleman's question, someone! For it is also mine.

Ditto... Also who gets this talent... everyone in the party? Or just the main character?

Edited April 8, 201510 yr by Koth

wait, what? I thought myself to be a completionist, but I never got one of those three bonus talents. What the hell did I miss, another bug? lol

 

 

you can't get both the Dozen's and the Knight's bonuses, because they are rivaling factions, when you progress beyond the 2nd quest with 1 faction, the other will stop dealing with you.

Not sure about the Doemenel(sp?) guys, since I didn't deal with them

We're wondering how to get one at all.

Just complete every quest for the faction, if you've already done so you probably have the talent and don't know it.  Took me awhile to figure out why I had 2 extra damage resistance on my monk the first time.

wait, what? I thought myself to be a completionist, but I never got one of those three bonus talents. What the hell did I miss, another bug? lol

Kindly answer this gentleman's question, someone! For it is also mine.

 

Check your main character's character sheet.  If you represented one of the factions in the hearings then you should have gotten one of the faction's faction-specific talents.  (I believe it is possible to get none of them, if you aren't friendly with any of the factions and get into the hearings the fourth way.)

 

For those out there who consider themselves completionists, sorry, but you can only get one of the three on any given playthough.  Maybe playing the game three times and side with a different faction each time will satisfy.

Ditto... Also who gets this talent... everyone in the party? Or just the main character?

 

Only the main character gets it.

I think the +5 Accuracy is applied only if you attack the same target as an ally - does a pet qualify as such?

+0.3 crit multiplier is huge because the default is +0.5... Definately go for house doemenel if your main character is dps. Buff your acc in fights and you'll hurt a lot with crits.

Edited April 10, 201510 yr by tnc