wanderon Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Ok so I had gathered a party with Eden, Aloth, Durance, and my Cypher PC and after doing most of the stuff I stumbled over in the process of gathering them we were all level 3 - we got the quest for Raedricks' hold - I wasn't sure we were up for it alone so I hired a level 2 Paladin - and our party of 5 found our way to the end battle where we were pretty much overwhelmed - twice... (on normal) I'm thinking we are just too early (too low level) ?? What say you - what do you think the minimum level for this quest is assuming a party of 4-5 on normal?? NO SPOILERS PLEASE!! Nomadic Wayfarer of the Obsidian Order Not all those that wander are lost...
PrimeJunta Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 I'd say level 3-4 is about right. Past that and it becomes a cakewalk. I have a project. It's a tabletop RPG. It's free. It's a work in progress. Find it here: www.brikoleur.com
Rosveen Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Level 5 if you want to do it comfortably, but it's possible earlier, might just take a few reloads. I finished it with a team of four characters at level 4.
Covi Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 I completed it as a level 4 Paladin with a full party and had no troubles at all.
Schadrach Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 I've made a bad habit of wandering into places that I'm pretty sure I wasn't meant to be yet. The first thing I did when I reached the first town was clear the temple. When I got the stronghold I went straight down the dungeon to level 8 or so (when I stopped being able to disarm traps or pick locks due to skill being too low). I still haven't been to Defiance Bay yet and I'm level 6. Stuff on the surface is just so trivial compared to those bastards under my castle. 1
sim-h Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Ok so I had gathered a party with Eden, Aloth, Durance, and my Cypher PC and after doing most of the stuff I stumbled over in the process of gathering them we were all level 3 - we got the quest for Raedricks' hold - I wasn't sure we were up for it alone so I hired a level 2 Paladin - and our party of 5 found our way to the end battle where we were pretty much overwhelmed - twice... (on normal) I'm thinking we are just too early (too low level) ?? What say you - what do you think the minimum level for this quest is assuming a party of 4-5 on normal?? NO SPOILERS PLEASE!! On 'Hard' difficulty I tried with a lvl 4 party of 5 chars and had a similar experience to you. I don't like continuous reloads so I actually restarted the game after that (I wasn't liking my main char anyway). I now expect to go in there with 6 chars, possibly at level 5 but certainly level 4. I'm also tailoring my builds better this time. So I'd say level 4-5.
saif3r Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Did it on 3-4lvl on Hard. No issues, but I would not say that it was easy. This Wall doesn't have hole in it.
Jimmious Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 (edited) I did it on level 4, with 6 party members. Relatively easy, except for one particular fight which I had to do twice. (Hard difficulty) Edited March 31, 2015 by Jimmious
kat7ra Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Lvl 4s and one 3, full party (Cleric is the only needed one) Hard difficulty. Was pretty much a cakewalk, Aloth can get some REALLY nice burning hands off after they've engaged your front line. He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster . . . when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss also gazes into you
wanderon Posted March 31, 2015 Author Posted March 31, 2015 Well I deleted my save games back to before we got the quest and I am going to see if I can't get the group up to level 4 which will give my casters access to level 3 spells which may make a huge difference - haven't decided yet whether to add an adventurer or not as well. It occurred to me as I wrote this that the group was also still wearing our disquises which may have also been a factor in our less than stellar performance... Nomadic Wayfarer of the Obsidian Order Not all those that wander are lost...
Rosveen Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 I think player experience influences the early game quite a lot. I mean, we have threads about how it's too easy on Hard and then people who are properly challenged on Normal. After spending 20+ hours in the game, I'm now comfortable enough with the mechanics that I'd have far less trouble with Raedric at 3-4. But when I started, I was going in completely blind (all tooltips turned off) and was still figuring out the ins and outs of the game when I got that quest. No wonder I got slaughtered. People who learn faster would perceive it differently.
PrimeJunta Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Haha I would get murdered hard on Expert Mode I'm pretty sure. If you switch on all the "moar difficult plz" options, then don't complain about the difficulty. 1 I have a project. It's a tabletop RPG. It's free. It's a work in progress. Find it here: www.brikoleur.com
crabe Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 (edited) I made it with main character, Eder, Durance and Aloth lvl4 and one fighter lvl3. Normal difficulty. I think it depends also of the options you take in your quest. One is easier, with much less fights, than the other. Edited March 31, 2015 by crabe
wanderon Posted March 31, 2015 Author Posted March 31, 2015 I think player experience influences the early game quite a lot. I mean, we have threads about how it's too easy on Hard and then people who are properly challenged on Normal. After spending 20+ hours in the game, I'm now comfortable enough with the mechanics that I'd have far less trouble with Raedric at 3-4. But when I started, I was going in completely blind (all tooltips turned off) and was still figuring out the ins and outs of the game when I got that quest. No wonder I got slaughtered. People who learn faster would perceive it differently. Well I logged about 200 hours in the beta and about halfway through those hours I switched from normal to hard so I am fairly familiar with how things work but the beta started you at level 4-5 which is much different than levels 1-3. I started the full game on hard and the "prologue" was pretty easy but once that was over things got much tougher and since I hate reload fests I backed off to normal so I could enjoy the game without feeling like I had to "cheat" to move forward. I am also a chronic restarter and already have a half dozen characters started as well altho I like this cypher better than most and will probably try to continue with him later today (unless I get a better idea) 1 Nomadic Wayfarer of the Obsidian Order Not all those that wander are lost...
L.berdowski Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 I varies on how you play it strategywise - I made in on level 3 on hard with just me (chanter), Eder and Aloth. So it is doable very early, however battles get tough
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