Caelib Posted May 7, 2004 Posted May 7, 2004 Inventory management in KotOR was terrible ... it could definitely be enhanced a little bit ... very hard to find/keep track of datapads, etc.
Zahadome Posted May 7, 2004 Posted May 7, 2004 I agree. I would like it to be an individual inventorysystem, because then you can make someone in your party be a packmule. Or if the system remains the same, they should make a folder type system, which you would be able to customise.
Althernai Posted May 9, 2004 Posted May 9, 2004 Agree*5 KotOR had the worst inventory management of any game I've played. Though I personally don't mind this, from a 'realism' perspective, you had the option of carrying hundreds of suits of armor, rifles, swords, mines etc. on you. From a 'convenience' perspective (and this I do mind) you had to sift through a ton of the junk until you found what you were looking for. If the system is too hardwired to fix, at least give written messages distinct names (please, no more Datapad, Datapad, Datapad... oh look, another Datapad).
kefka Posted May 9, 2004 Posted May 9, 2004 KotOR had the worst inventory management of any game I've played. You must not have played many games then. Kotor's inventory system is pretty bad but is by no means the worst. Some are truly hideous in both design and ease of use. It's only in recent years that 'filters' have become an expected feature. Before then they were a total mess with every item you collect on one huge screen, with no way to organize them. A key or letter used the same space as a gigantic piece of heavy armor. Yep, those were the days - no magic/gem bags, scroll cases, arrow quivers, etc. We take that for granted now. The datapad problem really needs to be fixed though. That was a disgrace
jedimastermaniac Posted May 9, 2004 Posted May 9, 2004 is it only or i loved the kotor thingy equipment system? well adding filters would be much easier or even some toolbars aka SWG / NWN
Althernai Posted May 9, 2004 Posted May 9, 2004 You must not have played many games then. Kotor's inventory system is pretty bad but is by no means the worst. Some are truly hideous in both design and ease of use. It's only in recent years that 'filters' have become an expected feature. Before then they were a total mess with every item you collect on one huge screen, with no way to organize them. I was thinking of recent games (the Infinity Engine ones, NWN, etc.). Yes, I suppose compared to some of the old text-based games KotOR was OK. But, just as with graphics, I do expect games to have item management comparable to what has come out in recent years. KotOR was a step pretty far backwards.
Sorwen Posted May 10, 2004 Posted May 10, 2004 One thing you have to keep in mind they had to keep it easy as some people where using the X-Box controller and not a mouse. I think they did very well for the first attempt.
Lord Tingeling Posted May 10, 2004 Posted May 10, 2004 This will be fixed in the next game, I have been told... "McDonald's taste damn good. I'd rtahe reat their wonderful food then the poisonous junk you server in your house that's for sure. What's funny is I'm not fat. In fact, I'm skinny. Though I am as healthy as cna be. Outside of being very ugly, and the common cold once in the blue moon I simply don't get sick." - Volourn, Slayer of Yrkoon! "I want a Lightsaber named Mr. Zappy" -- Darque "I'm going to call mine Darque. Then I can turn Darque on anytime I want." -- GhostofAnakin
tripleRRR Posted May 10, 2004 Posted May 10, 2004 Keeping everything you ever pick up under the sun is NOT DOING WELL!!!! It was a freaking pain in the you know where trying to find what you needed in that thing. At the very least can this new system at least drop quest items when the quest is finished, so we won't be carrying around a dozen datapads plus numerous other miscallaneous junk all the time. TripleRRR Using a gamepad to control an FPS is like trying to fight evil through maple syrup.
Akari Posted May 10, 2004 Posted May 10, 2004 We've done some changes to the way datapads work now, so there will be less of a need to dig through your inventory looking for them. They also have their own filter so that you can list just the datapads you have. Hope this helps some. -Akari
tripleRRR Posted May 10, 2004 Posted May 10, 2004 Anything is better than the current system. TripleRRR Using a gamepad to control an FPS is like trying to fight evil through maple syrup.
Darque Posted May 10, 2004 Posted May 10, 2004 Agreed. The old system was way inefficient. ANYTHING would be an improvement
JonIrenicus Posted May 10, 2004 Posted May 10, 2004 Agreed but i would like to see a more realistic inventory management so the character cannot carry infinite items but it would depend on his/her strength like the old crpgs... Life... is strength. That is not to be contested; it seems logical enough. You live; you affect your world
Sorwen Posted May 10, 2004 Posted May 10, 2004 It really serves no purpose other than being annoying. Why bother having me walk back to my ship every time I want to offload loot? the same reason they added the instant transport to the Ebon Hawk most of the time. If you had to walk back and forth all the time it gets dull and serves no point.
kefka Posted May 10, 2004 Posted May 10, 2004 Agreed but i would like to see a more realistic inventory management so the character cannot carry infinite items it's a shared inventory, which is also unrealistic. If you were to make strength a factor would that mean the strongest character decides how much you carry, or the party as a whole? I think you'd have to remove shared items for that to work.
Darque Posted May 10, 2004 Posted May 10, 2004 If the game is based off the old NWN engine, I wonder why they didn't use the inventory system from that? It was set up for a realistic weight based inventory.
Sorwen Posted May 10, 2004 Posted May 10, 2004 If the game is based off the old NWN engine, I wonder why they didn't use the inventory system from that? It was set up for a realistic weight based inventory. Because it isn't really. From what they've said they redesigned it from scratch it's just they've got "company conventions" for how they handle certain things so some of it comes out the same.
Ferret Posted May 11, 2004 Posted May 11, 2004 I know what my own gripes are about the old inventory system. I understand your problems with the PC version's inventory system. Besides datapads, anything else that bothers you about the Xbox inventory system, though? Just curious what you guys think. -Ferret
Darque Posted May 11, 2004 Posted May 11, 2004 Was the Xbox version different than the PC version inventory-wise? *your specific use of Xbox adds some uncertainty here*
Seth Tansill Posted May 11, 2004 Posted May 11, 2004 Yup Im a bit confused as well. I must say, as my first RPG on the pc, (zelda really being the only other RPG I'd played) I found the inventory system pretty atrocious. I like the idea of having tabs on Light/Medium/Heavy Armours/Weapons etc, and rather than being a big list, couldn't it be a sorta, big square where each item has a distinguishable icon? So basically like zelda (but zelda didnt have too many items in comparison, I might add, so had no need of tabs).
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