Bryy Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 (edited) Very impressive, first off. Very awesome dialogue screen. By my count, the nine dialogue options boil down to this: - 3 regular responses - 5 stat responses - 1 multi-stat response (this blows my mind and makes me so, so happy) I'm going to assume that the three regulars all flow into the same reaction (plus Athletics), but what about the other five? We know that there will/can be up to twelve responses for one screen, but how many of those are just for flavor? Those five are all stat-based, so I'm a bit cautious. I'm going to assume Intelligence and Perception flow into one peaceful response. If I may, what is the ratio of Flavor responses vs. Actual ones? Edited July 31, 2014 by Bryy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensuki Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 We know from the E3 previews that Option 6 allows you to stop Heodan from getting that serious injury; Option 7 allows you to identify their tribe name and address them accordingly but were not informed of the options past it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManifestedISO Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 I don't know, but I really like the kinetic response. When someone yells we're all about to be killed to death ... seems silly to stand around, thinking of something to say. Action, man! 1 All Stop. On Screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensuki Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Apparently that will be a recurring option. "Screw this... *Attack!* " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark Evensong Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Now I wonder whether option 7 is gated by an AND or an AND/OR check. (As in, do you need to qualify for both, or is just one enough?) I'd be okay with either, just curious. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensuki Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Yeah, good question. I think it would be an OR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorbag Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 (edited) If options 6 and 7 both yield the "Heodan unharmed" result, then I'm guessing it would be an OR. If option 7 yields a better result (e.g. Heodan unharmed + Glanfathans pike off), then it would likely be an AND, because otherwise Lore alone would outweigh Athletics. Or it might be a situational thing where Lore just suits the situation better - I'm guessing none of the skill-check options lead to Heodan dying, so this is also possible, as choosing the right option depending on the situation would lead to a lesser difference in the outcome (harmed/unharmed) with the worst possible one being averted. Edited July 31, 2014 by Gorbag Nothing gold can stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prometheus Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 I think it's an "and". Lore for the tribe name and Intellect for the good argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryy Posted July 31, 2014 Author Share Posted July 31, 2014 In that case, shouldn't the INT roll by 13 as well instead of 15? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lephys Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 If it is, indeed, an OR, I hope that there are still at least a bunch of ANDs throughout the game. In that case, shouldn't the INT roll by 13 as well instead of 15? They might not have those values set where they want them yet. I mean... ONE Athletics to charge a guy holding a hostage at blade-point before he can react?! Really? Apparently the Athletics scale is binary: 0 is you have to stop and pant for a few minutes after every step you take. 1 is Bionic Man. Should we not start with some Ipelagos, or at least some Greater Ipelagos, before tackling a named Arch Ipelago? 6_u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messier-31 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 ONE Athletics to charge a guy holding a hostage at blade-point before he can react?! Really? Apparently the Athletics scale is binary: 0 is you have to stop and pant for a few minutes after every step you take. 1 is Bionic Man "Steve Austin, astronaut. A man barely alive. Gentlemen, we can rebuild him. WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY. We have the capability to make the world's first bionic man. Steve Austin will be that man. Better than he was before. Better... stronger... faster." ^ If you put a name of the protagonist, change his class and replace the word "technology" with "animancy" you get the SIX MILLION DOLLAR MAN of Eternity. Well, six million gold pieces at least. It would be of small avail to talk of magic in the air... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prometheus Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 In that case, shouldn't the INT roll by 13 as well instead of 15? Why, it's not the same argument you use for the 13 int check and the 15 int check. We don't even know what the player will say, he could even try too say that he is from the same tribe. They might not have those values set where they want them yet. I mean... ONE Athletics to charge a guy holding a hostage at blade-point before he can react?! Really? Apparently the Athletics scale is binary: You are level one(I doubt that 66 exp is enough to level up) and the maximum skill level you can have is two, so it's likely that the skills values won't change. And if you go by some e3 previews the glanfathan leader will react and harm heodan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryy Posted August 1, 2014 Author Share Posted August 1, 2014 In that case, shouldn't the INT roll by 13 as well instead of 15? Why, it's not the same argument you use for the 13 int check and the 15 int check. We don't even know what the player will say, he could even try too say that he is from the same tribe. Because then it seems like it should just be a different option entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elerond Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 If it is, indeed, an OR, I hope that there are still at least a bunch of ANDs throughout the game. In that case, shouldn't the INT roll by 13 as well instead of 15? They might not have those values set where they want them yet. I mean... ONE Athletics to charge a guy holding a hostage at blade-point before he can react?! Really? Apparently the Athletics scale is binary: 0 is you have to stop and pant for a few minutes after every step you take. 1 is Bionic Man. I think that 1 athletics is about max that characters in demo build can have in that point of game, as there is no skill point dealing at character creation, meaning that characters have only their class bonuses for skill checks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levok Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 I got to play it in the Gamescom event this weekend and it was very cool. I am super excited to see them use more than just one stat towards an input to NPC's. It's quite awesome the way they have engineered it. I am very excited to see what you can unlocked and do with the new options. Ho-ray! for that strategy guide in the backing haha, hopefully not going to spoil anything to much. In any case had a blast playing the game and really am looking forward to getting to play more...winter is coming... :D Respectfully, -Levok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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