BruceVC Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 @Gnostic - Let's keep it simple: the loser will gift the winner with a game of his choice costing $/€ 15 or less, at most 30 days after the wager is decided (i.e., the game is released or Jan 1, 2015 hits, whichever is sooner), and congratulate the winner publicly on a suitable thread here. Shake? Well it is about half a year later so I don't know if I can remember to check it by then. That's why I want to buy you games first so you will not go all around the place claiming that I am a deal breaker in the event that I lost. Can we do it this way? I gift you $15 worth of games first, if either one of us forgot about this wager when the result is determined then you are off the hook. My memory is not as good when I am younger so tell me what games you prefer by Saturday? Don't worry Gnostic, this bet is very fascinating. You can be assured that I'll remind you about the conditions of the bet. I've got your back "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeJunta Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 (edited) Well it is about half a year later so I don't know if I can remember to check it by then. That's why I want to buy you games first so you will not go all around the place claiming that I am a deal breaker in the event that I lost. Can we do it this way? I gift you $15 worth of games first, if either one of us forgot about this wager when the result is determined then you are off the hook. My memory is not as good when I am younger so tell me what games you prefer by Saturday? I would strongly prefer a symmetrical arrangement. How about both of us buys BruceVC a $15 game now, and he buys the winner a $30 one when the wager is decided, assuming he agrees? Then we can all gloat/sulk about it together. Edited June 4, 2014 by PrimeJunta 2 I have a project. It's a tabletop RPG. It's free. It's a work in progress. Find it here: www.brikoleur.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Well it is about half a year later so I don't know if I can remember to check it by then. That's why I want to buy you games first so you will not go all around the place claiming that I am a deal breaker in the event that I lost. Can we do it this way? I gift you $15 worth of games first, if either one of us forgot about this wager when the result is determined then you are off the hook. My memory is not as good when I am younger so tell me what games you prefer by Saturday? I would strongly prefer a symmetrical arrangement. How about both of us buys BruceVC a $15 game now, and he buys the winner a $30 one when the wager is decided, assuming he agrees? Then we can all gloat/sulk about it together. I like that idea in principle, its offers a reasonable compromise The only criticism I have is the most fun of a bet is the anticipation of waiting to see the results and who wins. The excitement would be diminished if you give any prize away before the end result? "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeJunta Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 @BruceVC I agree, I'd rather do nothing now and leave it until release (or Jan 1, depending), but I understand @Gnostic's worries about being called a deal-breaker too. (I won't do that in any case; I prefer these kinds of things to be between you and your conscience, friendly gloating by the winner notwithstanding.) 2 I have a project. It's a tabletop RPG. It's free. It's a work in progress. Find it here: www.brikoleur.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnostic Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 (edited) Well it is about half a year later so I don't know if I can remember to check it by then. That's why I want to buy you games first so you will not go all around the place claiming that I am a deal breaker in the event that I lost. Can we do it this way? I gift you $15 worth of games first, if either one of us forgot about this wager when the result is determined then you are off the hook. My memory is not as good when I am younger so tell me what games you prefer by Saturday? I would strongly prefer a symmetrical arrangement. How about both of us buys BruceVC a $15 game now, and he buys the winner a $30 one when the wager is decided, assuming he agrees? Then we can all gloat/sulk about it together. I agree BruceVC will you take it up? It is not like you get the prize right away, your anticipation is if you get the prize for free or not. Edited June 4, 2014 by Gnostic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeJunta Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Cool! @BruceVC, which games do you want? I have a project. It's a tabletop RPG. It's free. It's a work in progress. Find it here: www.brikoleur.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Well it is about half a year later so I don't know if I can remember to check it by then. That's why I want to buy you games first so you will not go all around the place claiming that I am a deal breaker in the event that I lost. Can we do it this way? I gift you $15 worth of games first, if either one of us forgot about this wager when the result is determined then you are off the hook. My memory is not as good when I am younger so tell me what games you prefer by Saturday? I would strongly prefer a symmetrical arrangement. How about both of us buys BruceVC a $15 game now, and he buys the winner a $30 one when the wager is decided, assuming he agrees? Then we can all gloat/sulk about it together. I agree BruceVC will you take it up? It is not like you get the prize right away, your anticipation is if you get the prize for free or not. Cool! @BruceVC, which games do you want? The truth is I do agree with Prime that the game will be released on schedule. So someone else needs to take the bet "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeJunta Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 @BruceVC You're just the trusted third party here. Come to think of it, you would deserve compensation for it. How about both of us buy you a $20 game each now, and then you buy the winner a $30 game? You'll end up $10 worth of game ahead. I have a project. It's a tabletop RPG. It's free. It's a work in progress. Find it here: www.brikoleur.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsuga C Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 A delayed release some time in Q1 or Q2 in 2015 wouldn't bother me in the least. The more QA work done before it's released, the better. I have little patience with glitches and errors fouling my gameplay, so let Obsidian buff out the rough edges thoroughly before this one hits the marketplace. http://cbrrescue.org/ Go afield with a good attitude, with respect for the wildlife you hunt and for the forests and fields in which you walk. Immerse yourself in the outdoors experience. It will cleanse your soul and make you a better person.----Fred Bear http://michigansaf.org/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnostic Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 @BruceVC You're just the trusted third party here. Come to think of it, you would deserve compensation for it. How about both of us buy you a $20 game each now, and then you buy the winner a $30 game? You'll end up $10 worth of game ahead. Yes BruceVC, can I interest you with SimCity 4 Deluxe Edition which cost $19.99 on GOG now? As it is on GOG you need not worry the Origin **** up ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 @BruceVC You're just the trusted third party here. Come to think of it, you would deserve compensation for it. How about both of us buy you a $20 game each now, and then you buy the winner a $30 game? You'll end up $10 worth of game ahead. @BruceVC You're just the trusted third party here. Come to think of it, you would deserve compensation for it. How about both of us buy you a $20 game each now, and then you buy the winner a $30 game? You'll end up $10 worth of game ahead. Yes BruceVC, can I interest you with SimCity 4 Deluxe Edition which cost $19.99 on GOG now? As it is on GOG you need not worry the Origin **** up ever Thanks for the offer but I am a little confused what I would be agreeing to. I do think that PoE will be released on schedule. So who am I taking the bet with? Oh I also don't mind Origin so no issues there "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeJunta Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 @BruceVC You're not taking the bet. You're keeping it fair. Me and Gnostic are taking the bet, but you're holding the stakes in escrow until it's decided. 2 I have a project. It's a tabletop RPG. It's free. It's a work in progress. Find it here: www.brikoleur.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 @BruceVC You're not taking the bet. You're keeping it fair. Me and Gnostic are taking the bet, but you're holding the stakes in escrow until it's decided. Okay count me So lets just go over the overall structure of the bet one more time so everyone is clear. If PoE is released by the end of 2014 them Prime wins and he is entitled to one game on Steam ( or another distribution system like GOG) for less than $30. Also a public statement on these forums acknowledging this is expected But if PoE slips this release date then Gnostic wins and exact same conditions apply. Is that right? "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeJunta Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 @BruceVC You got it. To summarize including your role in it: 1. Me and Gnostic gift you with a $20 or less GOG game(s) of your choice each now. I.e. you get games worth up to $40 total. 2. If P:E is released before midnight of Dec 31, 2014, you gift me with a GOG game or games of my choice, worth up to $30. 3. If P:E is not released before midnight of Dec 31, 2014, you gift Gnostic with a GOG game or games of his choice, worth up to $30. A happy victory dance here by the winner is optional. I think we're good to go. Which games do you want? 1 I have a project. It's a tabletop RPG. It's free. It's a work in progress. Find it here: www.brikoleur.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 @BruceVC You got it. To summarize including your role in it: 1. Me and Gnostic gift you with a $20 or less GOG game(s) of your choice each now. I.e. you get games worth up to $40 total. 2. If P:E is released before midnight of Dec 31, 2014, you gift me with a GOG game or games of my choice, worth up to $30. 3. If P:E is not released before midnight of Dec 31, 2014, you gift Gnostic with a GOG game or games of his choice, worth up to $30. A happy victory dance here by the winner is optional. I think we're good to go. Which games do you want? Sounds good, my GOG games will be IWD2 and Anachronox I've never sent gifts in GOG before. What other details do you need? My GOG account name is BruceVC-SA "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeJunta Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 IWD2 is only $9.99 and Anachronox only $5.99. That's sixteen bucks. You'll need $24 worth more, sir. We'll need your e-mail address. You'll get a mail with codes you can redeem to get the games. I'll PM you about that. I have a project. It's a tabletop RPG. It's free. It's a work in progress. Find it here: www.brikoleur.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 IWD2 is only $9.99 and Anachronox only $5.99. That's sixteen bucks. You'll need $24 worth more, sir. We'll need your e-mail address. You'll get a mail with codes you can redeem to get the games. I'll PM you about that. Okay I'll spend more time looking at other games to make additional selections. I'll PM you and Gnostic now with my email address 2 "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomthom Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 For me, I'm still playing BG2 14 years on. If a delay means the difference between a good game I play once and a great game I play thirty-or-more times over the next 2 decades, I think I can wait a little longer 4 Crit happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnostic Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 (edited) IWD2 is only $9.99 and Anachronox only $5.99. That's sixteen bucks. You'll need $24 worth more, sir. We'll need your e-mail address. You'll get a mail with codes you can redeem to get the games. I'll PM you about that. Okay I'll spend more time looking at other games to make additional selections. I'll PM you and Gnostic now with my email address I had not received your PM, anyway I can only buy gifts for you by this Saturday when I get back home from outstation. Also we can also just give you the game key and you can redeemed it through https://secure.gog.com/redeem If you successful redeemed your titles, we can check in our gift section like the picture attached Edited June 5, 2014 by Gnostic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lephys Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Wait, someone's gotta referee BruceVC's actions. How 'bout Bruce buys ME a game, then you guys buy HIM your games, then, if he holds true to his role, I'll gift him back a game of equal value. Good. Now we just need someone to make sure I hold up my part of the deal... Should we not start with some Ipelagos, or at least some Greater Ipelagos, before tackling a named Arch Ipelago? 6_u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blarghagh Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Guys, not that this isn't entertaining, but this isn't a casino. Can you work out the details via PM? Personally I think Obsidian's track record in delivering things on time is pretty damn good, but this is their baby so as far as I'm concerned they can work on it as long as they want if it makes the game better. Blizzard and Valve's style of going "it's done when it's done" has served those companies very well. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Guys, not that this isn't entertaining, but this isn't a casino. Can you work out the details via PM? Fair enough, last comment from me about this. Gnostic, Prime and myself have worked out all the details of this bet so going forward we will use PM to discuss any changes 3 "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messier-31 Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtVdAasjOgU The Wtcher 3: Wild Hunt is coming February 24th 2015. Hurrrup obsidion pls 1 It would be of small avail to talk of magic in the air... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnostic Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Guys, not that this isn't entertaining, but this isn't a casino. Can you work out the details via PM? Personally I think Obsidian's track record in delivering things on time is pretty damn good, but this is their baby so as far as I'm concerned they can work on it as long as they want if it makes the game better. Blizzard and Valve's style of going "it's done when it's done" has served those companies very well. Yeah Obsidian, take as long as you want, I don't mind if it is released next year or the year after as long as your polish make the game shiny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lephys Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Yeah Obsidian, take as long as you want, I don't mind if it is released next year or the year after as long as your polish make the game shiny. Like... Firefly universe "shiny"? Or just make the game have a metaphorical sheen, from the metaphorical polish? Should we not start with some Ipelagos, or at least some Greater Ipelagos, before tackling a named Arch Ipelago? 6_u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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