Walsingham Posted May 25, 2013 Posted May 25, 2013 What's the technical term for your basic academic waffle-fest? You know, when you talk around the houses, look at both sides and conclude "it depends" like a total c***? In other news, I get really cranky when running a fever. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
Nonek Posted May 25, 2013 Posted May 25, 2013 Discourse? Quite an experience to live in misery isn't it? That's what it is to be married with children.I've seen things you people can't even imagine. Pearly Kings glittering on the Elephant and Castle, Morris Men dancing 'til the last light of midsummer. I watched Druid fires burning in the ruins of Stonehenge, and Yorkshiremen gurning for prizes. All these things will be lost in time, like alopecia on a skinhead. Time for tiffin. Tea for the teapot!
Zoraptor Posted May 26, 2013 Posted May 26, 2013 (edited) Belgian waffle fests are better than Academic waffle fests, certainly. On the original it would depend on the context. Treatise, examination, hypothesis, mental experiment, discourse, debate all would fit depending on the circumstance. If it's a formal group presentation it would be a conference, if it's a formal publication it would be, well, a publication/ article. Edited May 26, 2013 by Zoraptor
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted May 26, 2013 Posted May 26, 2013 Wals, I honestly have no idea what the **** you are asking about. 1 "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands
Walsingham Posted May 26, 2013 Author Posted May 26, 2013 I mean the academically prized notion of a learned paper looking at both sides of a subject through loose discourse summarising with a "well we've looked at both sides and aren't we clever". I know philosophy, and probably Greek philosophy, must have come upw ith a word for it. Otherwise I wouldn't have been taught it in school. I say 'taught'. Obviously this would have been as a teenager so I was too busy scheming access to boobs to listen to ancient Greek. I love being this ill. It's like being drunk without the social conscience. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
Gorgon Posted May 26, 2013 Posted May 26, 2013 Why don't you make one up. Seems like there is a demand. 1 Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all.
Gorth Posted May 26, 2013 Posted May 26, 2013 It's like when I have to decide on a glass of Cognac. One one hand, it tastes good, it makes me feel good, it is good. On the other hand, it's alcohol and intake should be limited, it's expensive, so resources are taken from elsewhere and so it is bad. There, covered both sides, ain't I clever? Now hand me the Cognac glass... “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein
Orogun01 Posted May 27, 2013 Posted May 27, 2013 I mean the academically prized notion of a learned paper looking at both sides of a subject through loose discourse summarising with a "well we've looked at both sides and aren't we clever". I know philosophy, and probably Greek philosophy, must have come upw ith a word for it. Otherwise I wouldn't have been taught it in school. I say 'taught'. Obviously this would have been as a teenager so I was too busy scheming access to boobs to listen to ancient Greek. I love being this ill. It's like being drunk without the social conscience. We call them blogs. I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"* *If you can't tell, it's you.
Darth InSidious Posted May 27, 2013 Posted May 27, 2013 I mean the academically prized notion of a learned paper looking at both sides of a subject through loose discourse summarising with a "well we've looked at both sides and aren't we clever". I know philosophy, and probably Greek philosophy, must have come upw ith a word for it. Otherwise I wouldn't have been taught it in school. I say 'taught'. Obviously this would have been as a teenager so I was too busy scheming access to boobs to listen to ancient Greek. I love being this ill. It's like being drunk without the social conscience. Dialectic? 1 This particularly rapid, unintelligible patter isn't generally heard, and if it is, it doesn't matter.
Tigranes Posted May 28, 2013 Posted May 28, 2013 Dialectic is not quite suitable for the purpose Wals is describing - I assume he's talking about a standard 'here, I'm clearly on the side of Chardonnay but I've also considered the possibility that Bourbon is superior, aren't I impartial and smart and reasonable" move in academia, journalism, etc. Neither the Socratic dialogue nor Hegelian dialectic would really work. In fact, it's surprising how we don't really have a word for it as far as I know, given we repeat "consider both sides of the argument" about a billion times a day around the world. Let's Play: Icewind Dale Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Icewind Dale II Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Divinity II (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG1 (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG2 (In Progress)
Walsingham Posted May 28, 2013 Author Posted May 28, 2013 I was thinking dialectic as well, but I think that's more of a rationalist approach to deriving truth. I agree with Tigs in that 'we' as a culture probably use it as the basis for a huge percentage of academic achievement, and thereby social advancement, yet we don't seem to have a word for it. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
Nepenthe Posted May 28, 2013 Posted May 28, 2013 I dunno, dialectic in the more classical sense seems a pretty good fit to me. You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions
Walsingham Posted May 28, 2013 Author Posted May 28, 2013 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialectic Well, wiki agrees with Nep. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
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