May 24, 201312 yr Author pity post opportunists.jpg Your pic not related with communism. Obviously this thread not for you.
May 24, 201312 yr I dunno, I think it's an excellent representation of an ideology that thrived on being "the lesser evil". You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions
May 24, 201312 yr Author I dunno, I think it's an excellent representation of an ideology that thrived on being "the lesser evil".You don't understand what communism is. http://www.gaitherstewart.com/2012/12/03/opeds-super-etatism-and-socialism-towards-a-statement-of-the-problem/ Staying within the framework of the Marxist methodology, it does not seem very hard to show that Soviet society was not socialist (communist). Here, of course, I ignore the Stalinist division of communism into two stages – socialism and communism – invented specifically to explain why the system of the USSR did not correspond with the views of the founders of scientific communism concerning socialism. The special design of this “invention” of Stalinist science and its dependence upon a particular political conjuncture are obvious. Consequently, it is necessary to get back to Marx’s understanding of the matter, namely, that socialism and communism are synonyms. So, we know the main characteristics of a socialist (communist) society: it is a classless, stateless, non-commodity system of direct democracy (participatory democracy), which has overcome exploitation and alienation, is based on the communal ownership of the means of production, and is generated by the socialist (communist) mode of production. It is obvious that “real socialism” did not correspond with these primary characteristics of socialism. Under “real socialism” we had: a) a state (that, compared to capitalism, even expanded its authority – instead of “withering away”); b) commodity-money relations, which inevitably, according to Engels, had to generate capitalism; c) the institutions of bourgeois representative democracy (in addition, it was reduced, in essence, to oligarchy); d) exploitation and alienation, which in their intensity and totality equaled the exploitation and alienation in the capitalist countries; e) state (and not communal) ownership of the means of production f) social classes and finally g) the same mode of production as under capitalism – large-scale commodity machine production or, in other words, the industrial mode of production.
May 24, 201312 yr I dunno, I think it's an excellent representation of an ideology that thrived on being "the lesser evil". Thought that was the foundation Western democracy was built on ? Edited May 24, 201312 yr by Malcador Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
May 24, 201312 yr *whispers* Mate, you're using the wrong alt. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
May 24, 201312 yr There has yet to have been a true communism, but this anthem kicks ass as a song. You see, ever since the whole Doritos Locos Tacos thing, Taco Bell thinks they can do whatever they want.
May 24, 201312 yr Troll fail. Not a single serious response. Poor troll. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
May 24, 201312 yr Quote “Political philosophers have often pointed out that in wartime, the citizen, the male citizen at least, loses one of his most basic rights, his right to life; and this has been true ever since the French Revolution and the invention of conscription, now an almost universally accepted principle. But these same philosophers have rarely noted that the citizen in question simultaneously loses another right, one just as basic and perhaps even more vital for his conception of himself as a civilized human being: the right not to kill.” -Jonathan Littell <<Les Bienveillantes>> Quote "The chancellor, the late chancellor, was only partly correct. He was obsolete. But so is the State, the entity he worshipped. Any state, entity, or ideology becomes obsolete when it stockpiles the wrong weapons: when it captures territories, but not minds; when it enslaves millions, but convinces nobody. When it is naked, yet puts on armor and calls it faith, while in the Eyes of God it has no faith at all. Any state, any entity, any ideology that fails to recognize the worth, the dignity, the rights of Man...that state is obsolete." -Rod Serling
May 24, 201312 yr * YOU ARE A WRONGULARITY FROM WHICH NO RIGHT CAN ESCAPE! *Chuck Norris was wrong once - He thought HE made a mistake!
May 24, 201312 yr Install a chip in everybody's head to make them behave like an ant: *poof*, true communism. ...and lots of fun was had by all. "It has just been discovered that research causes cancer in rats."
May 24, 201312 yr Mix the idea of the colllective with Aristotles idea of Eudaimonia and I think we'll have a good system.. Star Trek'sh even.. Fortune favors the bald.
May 24, 201312 yr Communism is another word for Magical Anarchy right? The area between the balls and the butt is a hotbed of terrorist activity.
May 24, 201312 yr Pretty much yeah. But it does work - history is full of examples, just not on large scale. Fortune favors the bald.
May 24, 201312 yr *whispers* Mate, you're using the wrong alt. Wals wins! Nobody is topping this one! "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
May 27, 201312 yr Author Just fascinating level of ignorance i find here. People continue posting about opportunistic USSR, even after my fat hints. This tread about true communism. Pseudo-left opportunists are not invited. This tread need a more obvious hint. “Everybody talks about the weather. We don't.” This 1968 poster was a response by the German Socialist Student Union to an ad campaign for weatherproof trains. The students were suggesting that like the figures pictured above, they had more important concerns than everyday things like the weather. The next year, journalist and future Red Army Faction terrorist Ulrike Meinhof would use the slogan to argue that radicals should talk about everyday life, since “the personal is political.” This thread about "New Left", RAF, FARC, Black Panthers, PKK, Che Guevara and their fight against bourgeois pigs.
May 27, 201312 yr So you called my Berlin Wall and raised with the Baader-Meinhof gang? You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions
May 27, 201312 yr Mix the idea of the colllective with Aristotles idea of Eudaimonia and I think we'll have a good system.. Star Trek'sh even.. Well, the Romulans are the Star Trek commies. The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.
May 27, 201312 yr Huh? They're an Oligarchy. The Federation is pretty close to what a functional communism would be. No money, everybody works for the advancement of the collective and to better themselves. While the Borg are like the horror version of communism. Fortune favors the bald.
May 27, 201312 yr Author So you called my Berlin Wall and raised with the Baader-Meinhof gang? Ulrike Meinhof’s (one of "criminal" or "gang leaders" as you say) 1967 column ‘Napalm and Pudding’ about the police raid on Kommune 1’s “assassination attempt” (throwing blancmange-type pudding at Hubert Humphrey) “It is thus not a criminal act to drop napalm on women, children, and old people; protesting against this act is a crime. It is not a criminal act to destroy the harvests necessary for the lives and the survival of millions; protesting against this is a crime. It is not a criminal act to destroy energy plants, leper colonies, schools, and dikes; protesting against this is a crime. Terror tactics and torture are not criminal acts; protesting against them is […] It is considered rude to pelt politicians with pudding and cream cheese but quite acceptable to host politicians who are having villages eradicated and cities bombed […] Yes to napalm, no to pudding.” In other Meinhof's text "From Protest to Resistance" she explain who is real criminal and why only radical methods works against them http://socialiststories.net/liberate/From%20Protest%20to%20Resistance%20-%20Ulrike%20Meinhof.pdf The following interview is from Konkret (a monthly magazine for left theory, discussion and culture), June 1992. The participants in this talk are: Karl-Heinz Dellwo, Knut Folkerts and Lutz Taufer, captured members of the RAF - prisoners since 1975 (Knut Folkerts since 1977), Rosita Timm, member of the Green Party in Hamburg and involved in the movement to free the political prisoners, Thomas Ebermann, former member of the Green Party, and Hermann L. Gremliza, publisher of Konkret. Very good interview, where explained real situation in the word, predicted modern crises of capitalism and made explanation about temporary stop of active operations by RAF. http://www.germanguerilla.com/red-army-faction/documents/92-06-interview.html
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