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Curveball debate - are Paedophiles organised like Al Qaeda


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I thought this merited its own thread, rather than continuing the thread about the child castration cannibal guy. *

 

The question occurred to me while reading about the Boston bombing debate on the BBC

 

The BBC mention that some US commentators want the bombers to be treated as enemy combatants. My question is: why not paedophiles?

 

Paedophiles have a clear agenda, they share advice, and they network and work together to cause horrific injuries and death. Indeed, several orders of magnitude more deaths and injuries than terrorism.

 

Apparently the principle is that if a bad guy is sufficiently bad or somehow well organised then the gloves come off.

 

So, again, my question is: can we detain paedophiles with a streamlined process of law, and or shoot them with unmanned drones?

 

 

*Incidentally the guy is a British immigrant to the USA, and I feel not enough British people are stating unequivocally that we're against kidnapping, torturing, and eating children.

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Thread title is like something out of the Daily Mail

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So, again, my question is: can we detain paedophiles with a streamlined process of law, and or shoot them with unmanned drones?

 

No.

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Not gonna lie wals, but if we start "streamlining" Murders and Pedos, you're standing on a slippery slope down. You're doing this against pedophiles, then womens advocacy groups will start demanding that the most depraved rapists be summairly shot too... and then the not so depraved, and then just rapists in general (or castration). Murder would be treated the same with people demanding that drone strikes be used against anyone who's killed and would be up for 1st degree.

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They ARE organized! Ever heard of NAMBLA? They are big supporters of the US Democrat party! 

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Not gonna lie wals, but if we start "streamlining" Murders and Pedos, you're standing on a slippery slope down. You're doing this against pedophiles, then womens advocacy groups will start demanding that the most depraved rapists be summairly shot too... and then the not so depraved, and then just rapists in general (or castration). Murder would be treated the same with people demanding that drone strikes be used against anyone who's killed and would be up for 1st degree.

 

Well, that's why it's a debate, old boy. I'm not sure I approve of the Obama administration treating US citizens on US soil  - i.e. the Boston bombers - as enemy combatants. Assuming I've got my facts straight which seems unlikely on general principle.

 

My point was, if you sanction the context then you set a precedent, and in the US that means it's ALL FINE. Right? Look at the RICO statutes and how widely they're used now.

 

Dangerous? - check

Clandestine? - check

Organized <sic>? - check

Influenced from abroad as well as domestically? - check

Less politically debatable motives? - check

 

I mean if we are going to start drone-bombing a group and I can only have one, I think we should bump the child torturers up the list. I'm old fashioned. And a bit drunk still from yesterday. 

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They ARE organized! Ever heard of NAMBLA? They are big supporters of the US Democrat party! 

 

But if the Democratic party got drone-bombed, wouldn't they be attacking themselves? Cray-zee.

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Thai Ministry of Tourism vehemently disagrees.

 

ROFL

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The handling of the Marc Dutroux case in Belgium makes me believe you're right Wals. There was definitely something going on behind the scenes there in the way investigation and prosecution was obstructed at every step of the way. Powerful friends indeed.

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So, OK.

 

What did I get wrong?

 

Are terrorists not going to get drone bombed and detained without trial if they are US cits, or is there some quality to them which makes them different that I didn't list?

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The handling of the Marc Dutroux case in Belgium makes me believe you're right Wals. There was definitely something going on behind the scenes there in the way investigation and prosecution was obstructed at every step of the way. Powerful friends indeed.

No, it was just good old incompetence.

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