DAWUSS Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Could such a thing be likely in our future? Where we can modify CGI films like we do video games? I think it could do for movies what is currently done for video games. You could change what you don't like, for instance. It would also add replayability and interactivity to a movie, giving you a reason to watch it more than once (since, let's face it, movies are, with rare exception, linear [far more than video games]). DAWUSS Dawes ain't too bright. Hitting rock bottom is when you leave 2 tickets on the dash of your car, leave it unlocked hoping someone will steal them & when you come back, there are 4 tickets on your dashboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orogun01 Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Could such a thing be likely in our future? Where we can modify CGI films like we do video games? I think it could do for movies what is currently done for video games. You could change what you don't like, for instance. It would also add replayability and interactivity to a movie, giving you a reason to watch it more than once (since, let's face it, movies are, with rare exception, linear [far more than video games]). I always said that Citizen Kane could had used more boobs. I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"* *If you can't tell, it's you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyCrimson Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 I don't think a market for this sort of thing would be very available in any near future. I know I wouldn't be very interested. A movie is too short and limited a format to make altering the bits & pieces I don't like to feel worth the probable time it would take to do it and have it come out well when played back. I mean, I might not like a character in a movie, but the effort to scrub them out of the film and replace the role they fill with some other cgi-creation of my own....no, too much work for the payoff. But then, I'm lazy. “Things are as they are. Looking out into the universe at night, we make no comparisons between right and wrong stars, nor between well and badly arranged constellations.” – Alan Watts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgon Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 99% of all fully CGI movies are crap. Final fantasy, Beowulf, etc. They look really pretty and cost a lot of money to make, but that alone was never enough. Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 99% of all fully CGI movies are crap. Final fantasy, Beowulf, etc. They look really pretty and cost a lot of money to make, but that alone was never enough. Yeah, those Pixar chumps are a bunch of chumps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgon Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 wall-e or however you spell it was good, but then pixar aren't trying to ape human actors, they are using the tech for something it's better suited for. a lot if cgi animated films do wind up looking generic though. they are too perfect, nothing looks like that other than a cgi film Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorton_AP Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Wouldn't the bulk of CGI films be the type of stuff we get from Pixar and Dreamworks and whatnot. Why does CGI have to mean attempting to bridge the uncanny valley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaftan Barlast Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 (edited) What's that, you say? My sideburns pasted on in photoshop? Prepostrous!! The uncanny valley is leapt over on a daily basis these days, you just dont notice it when they do it. It's only when someone like Robert Zemeckis tries to do Polar Express, Beowulf, Scrooge etc. that it looks a bit weird. I think they did quite well on Avatar and Davey Jones in the second PotC film was brilliantly done as well. And you cant re-render or remake CG films just like that, there is just too much work and trickery that goes into each frame that it's impossible. Edited December 30, 2010 by Kaftan Barlast DISCLAIMER: Do not take what I write seriously unless it is clearly and in no uncertain terms, declared by me to be meant in a serious and non-humoristic manner. If there is no clear indication, asume the post is written in jest. This notification is meant very seriously and its purpouse is to avoid misunderstandings and the consequences thereof. Furthermore; I can not be held accountable for anything I write on these forums since the idea of taking serious responsability for my unserious actions, is an oxymoron in itself. Important: as the following sentence contains many naughty words I warn you not to read it under any circumstances; botty, knickers, wee, erogenous zone, psychiatrist, clitoris, stockings, bosom, poetry reading, dentist, fellatio and the department of agriculture. "I suppose outright stupidity and complete lack of taste could also be considered points of view. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgon Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Avatar was still a crap movie though. Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Avatar was still a crap movie though. You know, the top grossing movies of all time are 1. Avatar 2. Titanic 3. Lord of the Rings: RotK 4. Pirates of the Caribbean: DMC 5. Toy Story 3 So apparently the entire world disagrees with you. But hey, keep bashing what is popular, it used to be pretty hip and I am sure it will come around again. Interestingly enough, these all feature a good deal of CGI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgon Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Appealing to the largest possible audience is a sure way to achieve mediocrity. I like Pirats DMC and LoTR 1 a lot though, call it the exception that proves the rule. Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorton_AP Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Or denial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Yeah, and MacD's is the best food in the world. Actually I saw the Scrooge film above and have to give it props for using a lot of Dickensian English. Not sure if the word filter will let one of the greatest English authors through. Actually, I'd love to see what Dickens would write about the internet. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorton_AP Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Thing is, there's plenty of utter filth movies that don't use CGI in them as well. Whether or not CGI is present in a movie is hardly a precursor to the movie being qualitatively good or bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaftan Barlast Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 If top-tier VFX houses like ILM or Weta are invovled, it guarantees high production values. The film might very well be retarded, but it will look good. Avatar was rubbish as a film, but as a demo of the capabilities of CG and stereoscopic 3D cinema, it was great. Now, imagine if someone sensible would have been given that kind of money and freedom to make a film? DISCLAIMER: Do not take what I write seriously unless it is clearly and in no uncertain terms, declared by me to be meant in a serious and non-humoristic manner. If there is no clear indication, asume the post is written in jest. This notification is meant very seriously and its purpouse is to avoid misunderstandings and the consequences thereof. Furthermore; I can not be held accountable for anything I write on these forums since the idea of taking serious responsability for my unserious actions, is an oxymoron in itself. Important: as the following sentence contains many naughty words I warn you not to read it under any circumstances; botty, knickers, wee, erogenous zone, psychiatrist, clitoris, stockings, bosom, poetry reading, dentist, fellatio and the department of agriculture. "I suppose outright stupidity and complete lack of taste could also be considered points of view. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgoth Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Here's hope a capable artists like Ridley Scott will do his magic with all this fancy CG/3D stuff on the Alien prequel(s). Rain makes everything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte Carlo Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 I'd pay good money for a modded version of Avatar where the blue hippies get pwned by evil space mercenaries and their natural resources are pillaged to make more tanks, planes, bombs and stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 I'd pay good money for a modded version of Avatar where the blue hippies get pwned by evil space mercenaries and their natural resources are pillaged to make more tanks, planes, bombs and stuff. YES And end the whole damn thing with a mushroom-cloud. I would gladly pay 11 euros to watch that in 3D. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nepenthe Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 So apparently the entire world disagrees with you. But hey, keep bashing what is popular, it used to be pretty hip and I am sure it will come around again. Isn't that what this forum is built on? Honestly, I only saw Avatar for the first time a couple of weeks ago. It was the kind of chlorine-bleached adventure that always, or generally, becomes hugely popular. I didn't think it was bad, but I didn't find it particularly exceptional either (and visually, I remember being more impressed with the Dark Knight's IMAX scenes), solid three stars. Of course, I could have been just an exceptionally jaded day, I've been unable to watch a lot of movies recently. Still have the Inception blu-ray waiting, I saw it in theatre but I want to see how it scores for repeat watchability (something that I've always been disappointed with Nolan's movies). You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 So apparently the entire world disagrees with you. But hey, keep bashing what is popular, it used to be pretty hip and I am sure it will come around again. Or they could just actually not like it, heh. Never seen Avatar, consensus from people here was that it was pretty but otherwise wasn't grand. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 So apparently the entire world disagrees with you. But hey, keep bashing what is popular, it used to be pretty hip and I am sure it will come around again. Isn't that what this forum is built on? Honestly, I only saw Avatar for the first time a couple of weeks ago. It was the kind of chlorine-bleached adventure that always, or generally, becomes hugely popular. I didn't think it was bad, but I didn't find it particularly exceptional either (and visually, I remember being more impressed with the Dark Knight's IMAX scenes), solid three stars. Of course, I could have been just an exceptionally jaded day, I've been unable to watch a lot of movies recently. Still have the Inception blu-ray waiting, I saw it in theatre but I want to see how it scores for repeat watchability (something that I've always been disappointed with Nolan's movies). Every time someone mentions 'Inception', i think of this. Great movie btw, i actually saw it twice. Granted though there are more thought-provoking movies out there. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Thing is, there's plenty of utter filth movies that don't use CGI in them as well. Whether or not CGI is present in a movie is hardly a precursor to the movie being qualitatively good or bad. I am probably talking through my hat here, but I'd say actually CGI DOES make it more likely that a film is utter balls. Mainly because it can be made by a disparate team, with even less commitment to the project, even less supervision, and initiated by people with less credentials in making film. Just a notion. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgoth Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Black Swan used CGI. Would you say that film was rubbish? Rain makes everything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orogun01 Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 I'd pay good money for a modded version of Avatar where the blue hippies get pwned by evil space mercenaries and their natural resources are pillaged to make more tanks, planes, bombs and stuff. I'd pay good money to see your face when you realize that Avatar is planned as a trilogy. I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"* *If you can't tell, it's you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgon Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 Black Swan used CGI. Would you say that film was rubbish? For the longest time I was convinced there was some kind of Tyler Durden mind **** going on. Decent movie, I didn't know Portman could act on account of Star Wars. We are not just talking about movies with CGI sequences in them, that would rule out anything with effects, but movies where the actors aren't the biggest attraction. Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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