Hurlshort Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 No one in this thread has even attempted to justify piracy. Quite a few people have hinted at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Oh, can we have another witch hunt? Can we? Please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPGmasterBoo Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 No one in this thread has even attempted to justify piracy. Quite a few people have hinted at it. Off with their heads! Imperium Thought for the Day: Even a man who has nothing can still offer his life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oner Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Great, it's "that" time again. Giveaway list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DgyQFpOJvyNASt8A12ipyV_iwpLXg_yltGG5mffvSwo/edit?usp=sharing What is glass but tortured sand?Never forget! '12.01.13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mamoulian War Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 No one in this thread has even attempted to justify piracy. Quite a few people have hinted at it. then you must be seeing something different, than anybody else... Sent from my Stone Tablet, using Chisel-a-Talk 2000BC. My youtube channel: MamoulianFH Latest Let's Play Tales of Arise (completed) Latest Bossfight Compilation Dark Souls Remastered - New Game (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 1: Austria Grand Campaign (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 2: Xhosa Grand Campaign (completed) My PS Platinums and 100% - 29 games so far (my PSN profile) 1) God of War III - PS3 - 24+ hours 2) Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 130+ hours 3) White Knight Chronicles International Edition - PS3 - 525+ hours 4) Hyperdimension Neptunia - PS3 - 80+ hours 5) Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PS3 - 200+ hours 6) Tales of Xillia - PS3 - 135+ hours 7) Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 - PS3 - 152+ hours 8.) Grand Turismo 6 - PS3 - 81+ hours (including Senna Master DLC) 9) Demon's Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 10) Tales of Graces f - PS3 - 337+ hours 11) Star Ocean: The Last Hope International - PS3 - 750+ hours 12) Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 127+ hours 13) Soulcalibur V - PS3 - 73+ hours 14) Gran Turismo 5 - PS3 - 600+ hours 15) Tales of Xillia 2 - PS3 - 302+ hours 16) Mortal Kombat XL - PS4 - 95+ hours 17) Project CARS Game of the Year Edition - PS4 - 120+ hours 18) Dark Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 19) Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory - PS3 - 238+ hours 20) Final Fantasy Type-0 - PS4 - 58+ hours 21) Journey - PS4 - 9+ hours 22) Dark Souls II - PS3 - 210+ hours 23) Fairy Fencer F - PS3 - 215+ hours 24) Megadimension Neptunia VII - PS4 - 160 hours 25) Super Neptunia RPG - PS4 - 44+ hours 26) Journey - PS3 - 22+ hours 27) Final Fantasy XV - PS4 - 263+ hours (including all DLCs) 28) Tales of Arise - PS4 - 111+ hours 29) Dark Souls: Remastered - PS4 - 121+ hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Wow, I'm a psychic: This will end well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oner Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Wow, I'm a psychic: This will end well... More like you can remember the past...so...historian? Giveaway list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DgyQFpOJvyNASt8A12ipyV_iwpLXg_yltGG5mffvSwo/edit?usp=sharing What is glass but tortured sand?Never forget! '12.01.13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Why would you waste your time arguing over the use of the term copyright infringement instead of theft then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Slinky Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Why would you waste your time arguing over the use of the term copyright infringement instead of theft then? For the sake of arguing? Haven't you learned anything in here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mamoulian War Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 (edited) Why would you waste your time arguing over the use of the term copyright infringement instead of theft then? I can ask you the sam but the opposite: Why would you waste your time arguing over the use of the term theft instead of the proper name copyright infringement then? when i was a child I was always learned by my parents, to name the things with their proper name, and not to pull them out of my ass, whenever i did lied or pulled some stuff out of my ass which was very different from the truth, i got a spanked... Edited January 31, 2010 by Mamoulian War Sent from my Stone Tablet, using Chisel-a-Talk 2000BC. My youtube channel: MamoulianFH Latest Let's Play Tales of Arise (completed) Latest Bossfight Compilation Dark Souls Remastered - New Game (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 1: Austria Grand Campaign (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 2: Xhosa Grand Campaign (completed) My PS Platinums and 100% - 29 games so far (my PSN profile) 1) God of War III - PS3 - 24+ hours 2) Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 130+ hours 3) White Knight Chronicles International Edition - PS3 - 525+ hours 4) Hyperdimension Neptunia - PS3 - 80+ hours 5) Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PS3 - 200+ hours 6) Tales of Xillia - PS3 - 135+ hours 7) Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 - PS3 - 152+ hours 8.) Grand Turismo 6 - PS3 - 81+ hours (including Senna Master DLC) 9) Demon's Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 10) Tales of Graces f - PS3 - 337+ hours 11) Star Ocean: The Last Hope International - PS3 - 750+ hours 12) Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 127+ hours 13) Soulcalibur V - PS3 - 73+ hours 14) Gran Turismo 5 - PS3 - 600+ hours 15) Tales of Xillia 2 - PS3 - 302+ hours 16) Mortal Kombat XL - PS4 - 95+ hours 17) Project CARS Game of the Year Edition - PS4 - 120+ hours 18) Dark Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 19) Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory - PS3 - 238+ hours 20) Final Fantasy Type-0 - PS4 - 58+ hours 21) Journey - PS4 - 9+ hours 22) Dark Souls II - PS3 - 210+ hours 23) Fairy Fencer F - PS3 - 215+ hours 24) Megadimension Neptunia VII - PS4 - 160 hours 25) Super Neptunia RPG - PS4 - 44+ hours 26) Journey - PS3 - 22+ hours 27) Final Fantasy XV - PS4 - 263+ hours (including all DLCs) 28) Tales of Arise - PS4 - 111+ hours 29) Dark Souls: Remastered - PS4 - 121+ hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Wow, I'm a psychic: This will end well... More like you can remember the past...so...historian? Stop stealing my thunder! @Hurlshot: Probably because of Nightshape's rant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowtrain Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 meh. I really think that the entire concept of DRM = anti-piracy is pretty outdated. ANd was probably never really true to begin with. Misdirection at best. DRM is about controlling and leveraging the game asset, and its aimed mostly at legitimate paying customers, not pirates. If it has the added benefit of making a game harder to pirate that's great, but its not the main reason. @purk: I'm the only one with the next-gen hate going. Credit where credit is due please. Notice how I can belittle your beliefs without calling you names. It's a useful skill to have particularly where you aren't allowed to call people names. It's a mistake to get too drawn in/worked up. I mean it's not life or death, it's just two guys posting their thoughts on a message board. If it were personal or face to face all the usual restraints would be in place, and we would never have reached this place in the first place. Try to remember that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikhailian Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 I got lemon lime. If you give me some lemons I'll make some kamikazes. Arguing about the nature of theft in a digital construct while drunk sounds like a noble enough endeaver. Besides, I'm snowed in and getting angsty. But for all of us, there will come a point where it does matter, and it's gonna be like having a miniature suit-head shoving sticks up your butt all the time. - Tigranes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oner Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Here, have a bottle. Giveaway list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DgyQFpOJvyNASt8A12ipyV_iwpLXg_yltGG5mffvSwo/edit?usp=sharing What is glass but tortured sand?Never forget! '12.01.13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPGmasterBoo Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 @purk: I'm the only one with the next-gen hate going. Credit where credit is due please. No you're not, don't hog the show. Imperium Thought for the Day: Even a man who has nothing can still offer his life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 These are the quotes that turned this into a piracy discussion and led to my response: Remind me again of the advantages of being a law-abiding citizen? To Ubisoft I can only say: Pirate Flag pic But then again, there are benefits to piracy... *piracy helps stop global warming pic* So neither Nightshape or I brought up piracy, just to clarify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikhailian Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Here, have a bottle. Awe thnx. (Goes back to playing Eve trial instead of arguing) But for all of us, there will come a point where it does matter, and it's gonna be like having a miniature suit-head shoving sticks up your butt all the time. - Tigranes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Hurlshot, you should have put names in the quotes, so we know who to behead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mamoulian War Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Just behead me, because i am pure evil customer, who wants to control goods which he purchased... what a blasphemy... Sent from my Stone Tablet, using Chisel-a-Talk 2000BC. My youtube channel: MamoulianFH Latest Let's Play Tales of Arise (completed) Latest Bossfight Compilation Dark Souls Remastered - New Game (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 1: Austria Grand Campaign (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 2: Xhosa Grand Campaign (completed) My PS Platinums and 100% - 29 games so far (my PSN profile) 1) God of War III - PS3 - 24+ hours 2) Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 130+ hours 3) White Knight Chronicles International Edition - PS3 - 525+ hours 4) Hyperdimension Neptunia - PS3 - 80+ hours 5) Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PS3 - 200+ hours 6) Tales of Xillia - PS3 - 135+ hours 7) Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 - PS3 - 152+ hours 8.) Grand Turismo 6 - PS3 - 81+ hours (including Senna Master DLC) 9) Demon's Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 10) Tales of Graces f - PS3 - 337+ hours 11) Star Ocean: The Last Hope International - PS3 - 750+ hours 12) Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 127+ hours 13) Soulcalibur V - PS3 - 73+ hours 14) Gran Turismo 5 - PS3 - 600+ hours 15) Tales of Xillia 2 - PS3 - 302+ hours 16) Mortal Kombat XL - PS4 - 95+ hours 17) Project CARS Game of the Year Edition - PS4 - 120+ hours 18) Dark Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 19) Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory - PS3 - 238+ hours 20) Final Fantasy Type-0 - PS4 - 58+ hours 21) Journey - PS4 - 9+ hours 22) Dark Souls II - PS3 - 210+ hours 23) Fairy Fencer F - PS3 - 215+ hours 24) Megadimension Neptunia VII - PS4 - 160 hours 25) Super Neptunia RPG - PS4 - 44+ hours 26) Journey - PS3 - 22+ hours 27) Final Fantasy XV - PS4 - 263+ hours (including all DLCs) 28) Tales of Arise - PS4 - 111+ hours 29) Dark Souls: Remastered - PS4 - 121+ hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 So you're a follower of the Valve philosophy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Just behead me, because i am pure evil customer, who wants to control goods which he purchased... what a blasphemy... I'm all for getting rid of DRM, particularly the kind that wants you online all the time. I think you are hurting your argument by arguing over the semantics of piracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raithe Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 How about we shelve the piracy and concentrate on the other things.. Aka, Do you really want all games you buy from now on to end up using the same type of system where you have to be online to play it. Even if you just want to play a single-player game.. If you have a crappy net connection (which a lot of people still do) , if something happens (like I suffered recently) and you end up with no phone-lines or internet for a week because of weather damage... "Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 I don't think what we want matter all that much, "we" are a small minority and the majority don't care either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 I don't think what we want matter all that much, "we" are a small minority and the majority don't care either way. I'd say on most DRM measures, yes, but being online all the time can be an issue for a much larger group than a disk check, or invasive software, or even an initial online activation. For example, my PS3 has a spotty connection. It's too far from the router. If I could never play games unless I had a connection, it would be a worthless device. As is, it usually spends a minute trying to connect and then tells me certain services are not available, but the game itself is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Then you need to get the much larger group to take notice and not buy the game, because that's the only way anything is going to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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