Killian Kalthorne Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/01/...ates/index.html There could be over 100,000 dead. This is damn awful. "Your Job is not to die for your country, but set a man on fire, and take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe."
Walsingham Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 (edited) If only there were some way those 100,000 dead could all be people who believe there is an Earth Mother watching over us. EDIT: I should say that I do feel sorry for Haiti, but given its history I was basically unable to feel any more sorry for it. Edited January 14, 2010 by Walsingham "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
Shryke Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 isn't Haiti already the poorest country in the western world? they just aren't catching any breaks are they... when your mind works against you - fight back with substance abuse!
Guard Dog Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 I donated! I wish I could do more. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Rostere Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 I might never understand why some people choose to live next to volcanoes or in earthquake-ridden areas. It's really kind of sad "Well, overkill is my middle name. And my last name. And all of my other names as well!"
Hiro Protagonist Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 In other news, the unemployment rate has gone down in Haiti and job vacancies are at a record high.
Trenitay Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 I might never understand why some people choose to live next to volcanoes or in earthquake-ridden areas. It's really kind of sad We like the thrill. It's very exciting, you know. Hey now, my mother is huge and don't you forget it. The drunk can't even get off the couch to make herself a vodka drenched sandwich. Octopus suck.
Vilhelm Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 (edited) I might never understand why some people choose to live next to volcanoes or in earthquake-ridden areas. It's really kind of sad Yeah, imagine all the poor fools in the United States, especially those close to the Yellowstone National Park, which is like a ticking timebomb which can explode anytime between now and the year 1,000,000 AD. Everyone should just move to Greenland. On a related note, it's sad to see that nations are so slow to offer a helping hand. It's funny to hear that one of the first rescue teams sent by a government to be dispatched to Haiti was a team from Iceland of all places. Edited January 14, 2010 by Vilhelm
Meshugger Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 I have become very jaded through out the years. I only react that the number is high, but i feel little to none emotion about it. Maybe i simply fail to have an emotional connection to haitians. I do know however, on an intellectual and rational level, that catastrophes such as these are one the worst things that could happen to mankind as a whole. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy
Rostere Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 It's funny to hear that one of the first rescue teams sent by a government to be dispatched to Haiti was a team from Iceland of all places. Why is that funny? Iceland lies in a highly volcanic area, they'll probably always have own rescue teams ready for occasions like this. "Well, overkill is my middle name. And my last name. And all of my other names as well!"
Vilhelm Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 It's funny to hear that one of the first rescue teams sent by a government to be dispatched to Haiti was a team from Iceland of all places. Why is that funny? Iceland lies in a highly volcanic area, they'll probably always have own rescue teams ready for occasions like this. It's funny because Iceland is slowly becoming the first OECD country to come close to bankruptcy. Of the Western nations, Iceland has probably the biggest right to shrug their shoulders and say "Sorry, but we don't have money for that."
Guard Dog Posted January 15, 2010 Posted January 15, 2010 Here is a tragedy to compound a tragedy. The Port Au Prince airport is having to turn way planes full of food, medical supplies, search and rescue teams, etc because they can't get the planes on the ground unloaded and there is no fuel to refuel the outbound planes. What a complete mess. They need AvGas and loading equipment more than anything else. Forget the canned goods, anyone got a spare forklift? "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Killian Kalthorne Posted January 15, 2010 Author Posted January 15, 2010 What they should do, in my humble opinion, is to land the planes at the nearest airport outside the disaster area then use helicopters to airlift the aid in. Coordinate the aircraft carriers and other Naval ships that have large enough helo decks to act as refueling stations for these helicopters. Also have pilots in the planes who are trained in midflight refueling ops do the majority of the flying so they do not need to land in order to refuel. Anyway, that is how I would do it. "Your Job is not to die for your country, but set a man on fire, and take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe."
Gfted1 Posted January 15, 2010 Posted January 15, 2010 If only they had you there to straighten the whole mess out. "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
Killian Kalthorne Posted January 15, 2010 Author Posted January 15, 2010 If they did they probably be worse off. "Your Job is not to die for your country, but set a man on fire, and take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe."
Walsingham Posted January 17, 2010 Posted January 17, 2010 Logistics is always a tricky business. Ever since I started reading military history I've had immense respect for the lazy bastards who do it professionally. I say that because there is a whiff in the air of assuming that it should must be easy, and yeah from here it sounds easy. But you'll have a bjillion different agencies, most of them won't necessarily know who has what assets, and any time anyone tries to exert authority to centralise planning everyone will have a hissy fit. Then you have people with different priorities. One guy will want surgical supplies, but will be competing for space with a rubble rescue dog team, but they get into place to discover they can't do their job because they squeezed their military escort off the flight in. Then their cars get stolen. You get the idea. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
Deadly_Nightshade Posted January 17, 2010 Posted January 17, 2010 Scareware Purveyors, Spammers, and Crooks Take Advantage of Haiti Earthquake "Geez. It's like we lost some sort of bet and ended up saddled with a bunch of terrible new posters on this forum." -Hurlshot
Walsingham Posted January 17, 2010 Posted January 17, 2010 I do have to add that while there's nothing wrong with the laudable relief efforts being made, a huge part of the problem seems to be the almost total absence of functioning government or infrastructure. 'Sick' countries get hit worst by natural disasters. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
Hiro Protagonist Posted January 18, 2010 Posted January 18, 2010 I just hope that any aid given has a carbon footprint of zero and has been offset for the sake of the environment and the world. Climate change and all that stuff.
Killian Kalthorne Posted January 18, 2010 Author Posted January 18, 2010 I think that the carbon footprint thingie can be forgiven in this case. When the world fraks you, you have the right to frak it back. "Your Job is not to die for your country, but set a man on fire, and take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe."
Moose Posted January 18, 2010 Posted January 18, 2010 I wonder why they don't just parachute the supplies. There are none that are right, only strong of opinion. There are none that are wrong, only ignorant of facts
Syraxis Posted January 18, 2010 Posted January 18, 2010 I wonder why they don't just parachute the supplies.
Moose Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 That's why you parachute them onto a guarded runway. Still don't see the problem with the idea tbh. There are none that are right, only strong of opinion. There are none that are wrong, only ignorant of facts
Walsingham Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 That's why you parachute them onto a guarded runway. Still don't see the problem with the idea tbh. Moose, you know as well as I do how inaccurate paradrops are. Guarding an area that big would be nearly as difficult as guarding and maintaining a proper airfield. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
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