Oh Look There

[RPGmasterBoo]

O RLY? I bet Dracula, Frankenstein, and quite a few others would argue with that assessment.

 

They would, and lose.

Did it? Didn't the original The Thing come first? How about a certain famous zombie movie that was set basically at one farmhouse? That's just a couple of examples.

 

I never saw a farmhouse with hexagonal corridors and pressurized doors but okay.

I didn't say it invented claustrophobia, I said it invented that particular sci fi setting, obviously in terms of visuals.

 

That said, none of those movies, even Carpenters remake of the The Thing are half as good as Alien in direction and cinematography.

[Sannom]

"And you forget the Alien itself which is the most iconic movie monster of all time."

 

O RLY? I bet Dracula, Frankenstein, and quite a few others would argue with that assessment.

 

Dracula and Frankenstein were literature monsters first and foremost, no? Dracula has lost most of his iconic since vampires have been used and reused for all kinds of settings, their look and feel changed so many times. Todays, the only features everyone associates with vampires are the pointed teeth.

 

I'm not a fan of the aliens, but its undeniably true that the design of the Alien was the work of a (deranged?) genius. I don't know any of the symbolism behind it, and I don't really care, but the design just strikes as unforgettable. Even the imitations (Tyranids and other Zergs) haven't done so good since!

[Oner]

Even the imitations (Tyranids and other Zergs) haven't done so good since!

Those came from the Arachnids AFAIK. Y'know, Starship Troopers. Dunno if ST predates Alien or not tho.

[RPGmasterBoo]

No it doesnt. The novel its based on does, but you have to remember the hive mind thing wasnt a part of the original Alien, it was introduced in the sequel and watered down much of the creatures uniqueness.

[Volourn]

"They would, and lose."

 

LOL But, no. And, let's not forget Godzilla, King Kong, and Jaws (thoguh not really a monster in the grandest sense since it's based on a real animal).

 

 

"Dracula and Frankenstein were literature monsters first and foremost, no?"

 

Doesn't matter. They are still iconic monsters with tons of movies based on them and highly easily recognizable. I bet anyone whom has seen a movie is above the age of 10 has seen at least one movie with Dracula. The number of people who have seen an Alien movie or even heard of it is probably miniscue comapred to Dracula or Frankenstein.

 

Iconic doesn't mean 'I llike x more than y'; it's about influence, recognization factor, and everything based on them.

 

 

" Dracula has lost most of his iconic since vampires have been used and reused for all kinds of settings, their look and feel changed so many times. Todays, the only features everyone associates with vampires are the pointed teeth."

 

He hasn't lost any bit of his iconic status. In fact, all the new age vampire stuffm just heightens it. How many monsters are based off aliens? very few. To claim that Aliens are at the level at the aformentioned monsters is ludicrous.

 

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"ut its undeniably true that the design of the Alien was the work of a (deranged?) genius. I don't know any of the symbolism behind it, and I don't really care, but the design just strikes as unforgettable."

 

I'm not arguing otherwise. The alien is a fantastically designed monster, imo. No doubt about it. But, it's not iconic at the level of Dracula, King Kong, and the like. Heck, the T Rex as made famous in Jurassic Park is probably more iconic.

[Oner]

No it doesnt. The novel its based on does, but you have to remember the hive mind thing wasnt a part of the original Alien, it was introduced in the sequel and watered down much of the creatures uniqueness.

Not being a hive mind is more unique than being one?

[dsan1]

Jeez, I really could cry over this game not makin it to the shelves!

[RPGmasterBoo]

No it doesnt. The novel its based on does, but you have to remember the hive mind thing wasnt a part of the original Alien, it was introduced in the sequel and watered down much of the creatures uniqueness.

Not being a hive mind is more unique than being one?

 

 

I was alluding to the scare factor of the thing.

[RPGmasterBoo]

I gotta spam cos the devs are sleeping.

 

Out of curiosity which creature model was going to be used? (from which film)

[Pop]

NDA, dude. Don't get butthurt if nobody responds.

 

Out of curiosity which creature model was going to be used? (from which film)

There were differences?

Original design was Giger's, and it changed every iteration of the franchise, becoming more buglike in Aliens (both drone and queen were Cameron's design) and so on.

Edited January 11, 2010 by Pop

[RPGmasterBoo]

Sorry, does that stand for non-disclosure agreement?

 

As for the rest, each installment had a different look for the creature. The heads are different as is the number of fingers on each hand, the tail, the tubes on its back and other details.

[Pop]

Sorry, does that stand for non-disclosure agreement?

yesh.

[Oner]

http://tecfa.unige.ch/~nova/img/giger_alien.JPG

vs

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/Zer...oalienwar03.jpg

vs

http://www.kropserkel.com/Images/alienren.jpg

?

 

I hope the last one. : x

[RPGmasterBoo]

Perhaps I'm being captain obvious here but the first one is from Alien 3, included in the AvP games as the "runner".

 

The second and third are derivatives of Cameron's version.

 

You don't have the original (and perhaps best) on offer. It has a flat dome without the ridges, and its slightly translucent, and if looked from the front you can make out eye sockets behind the material (because the front part of the head is a human skull).

 

Edited January 11, 2010 by RPGmasterBoo

[Oner]

That human skull thing would've been really cool if the xenomorphs would mutate humans instead of using them as beds.

[RPGmasterBoo]

Well they do inherit the hosts DNA, but anyway - Gigers work is a piece of art portraying nothing in particular (it was just a painting he did) and by itself I think its the best. However they ditched the transparency later because its not really suited for the film (as you noticed) and because its scarier if you dont know where its looking.

[funcroc]

From former OEI artist Thad Clevenger's website

 

 

 

[Tale]

I'm both an Aliens fanboy and an Obsidian fanboy. Thanks for opening old wounds, you jerk.

[WorstUsernameEver]

Looks, well... worse than DSIII. Captain Obvious says that the engine (and artists) have made progress.

Little to no indication to how the gameplay would have played out, except that the camera angle looks weird.

[sorophx]

looks nice. they should've made AP a horror/survival game instead of spy/stealth

[Wrath of Dagon]

No, they should've made Aliens.

[Tale]

You're tearing me apart, Dagon.

[Wrath of Dagon]

I wonder if Sega is eating their hearts out over NV success. Aliens is another established brand after all.

[sorophx]

they would if there was already an Aliens game published by them, which Obsidian could take and reshape. what I want to know, if NV's success can lead to resurrecting the Aliens RPG by Obsidz

[WorstUsernameEver]

Why are you guys all so enthusiastic? We know nearly nothing about the game. It could be a generic 3rd person action game for what the screenshots show.