EA cutting 1500 jobs

[Theseus]

I Have a tree outside my home. I wonder how many leaves it will fire this fall? I mean times are tough since the season is changing.

[Mamoulian War]

I Have a tree outside my home. I wonder how many leaves it will fire this fall? I mean times are tough since the season is changing.

 

good job comparing human beings and their lives with leaves, what will be next?comparing them to livestock and their job to slaughterhouse?

[Monte Carlo]

Im kind of hardcore when it comes to labour issues, but I wholeheartedly say that it should be illegal of a company to lay off employees for economic reasons as long as the company is running a profit. Its far more important for society as a whole that people are employed, than for a big company to increase their short-term profits.

 

Welcome to Russia circa. 1965. Those tractor production figures are looking great this quarter, Sergei.

[Mamoulian War]

Im kind of hardcore when it comes to labour issues, but I wholeheartedly say that it should be illegal of a company to lay off employees for economic reasons as long as the company is running a profit. Its far more important for society as a whole that people are employed, than for a big company to increase their short-term profits.

 

Welcome to Russia circa. 1965. Those tractor production figures are looking great this quarter, Sergei.

 

You have absolutely no clue what are you talking about...

[Monte Carlo]

I'm afraid I do, and you need to go back to economics 101.

[Mamoulian War]

I'm afraid I do, and you need to go back to economics 101.

 

The only way how you could know, what are you talking about, is if you were from former Soviet Union... And had more that 30 maybe 40 years, because you would be experiencing that 1st hand...

 

Western books depict eastern block with many many mistakes and propaganda... and ofc vice versa... if i would be studying history of EU or USA from only from Russian books, everyone would be laughing at me, like i am laughing at everyone who never opened any modern history book written in eastern europe and is claiming that he knows what he is talking about...

[Monte Carlo]

Mate, I never lived in Ancient Rome, 17th Century Britain or Depression Era America but I could give you a quick rundown of their economic models.

 

Are you telling me Russia in the 1960's didn't have a command economy?

[Mamoulian War]

Mate, I never lived in Ancient Rome, 17th Century Britain or Depression Era America but I could give you a quick rundown of their economic models.

 

Are you telling me Russia in the 1960's didn't have a command economy?

 

No I am not telling that, but i am telling you that if you do not read on the model from an Russian economist author who is supporter of modern capitalism, but has realy experienced how the command economy actualy realy worked or did not worked You will never get a whole picture

 

edit: same can be said about economy in ancient rome, because almost every book which was made during that time was burned during deep medieval ages by inquisition, you can not tell how exactly it worked, only from rumours which has been held by few scholars who did not get burned during that time, and from occasional original writings which are more scarce than altruistic people in the top management of colossal companies, and as you know rumours can get twisted

Edited November 13, 2009 by Mamoulian War

[213374U]

I would recommend that you read up on how historical research works before taking the "everything is propaganda" route.

 

Of course, you aren't saying that everything is propaganda, only that IT COULD BE. And that is not your opinion, but IT COULD BE, right?

Edited November 13, 2009 by 213374U

[Aristes]

Im kind of hardcore when it comes to labour issues, but I wholeheartedly say that it should be illegal of a company to lay off employees for economic reasons as long as the company is running a profit. Its far more important for society as a whole that people are employed, than for a big company to increase their short-term profits.

 

Welcome to Russia circa. 1965. Those tractor production figures are looking great this quarter, Sergei.

I'm glad you quoted Kaftan because I'm too damned lazy to read the first few pages again.

 

Someone alluded to this arrangement working both ways earlier. Let's bring that full circle.

 

Companies can't fire employees for economic reasons as long as the company is running a profit. Employees can't leave companies because they can make more money elsewhere as long as their inflation adjusted pay remains the same. See, that's reciprocity. Sound like fun?

 

I'd rather have our model, but then again I've bought into the propaganda. M.War, you kill me sometimes, but I do enjoy your posts. Good times, man!

[Mamoulian War]

Im kind of hardcore when it comes to labour issues, but I wholeheartedly say that it should be illegal of a company to lay off employees for economic reasons as long as the company is running a profit. Its far more important for society as a whole that people are employed, than for a big company to increase their short-term profits.

 

Welcome to Russia circa. 1965. Those tractor production figures are looking great this quarter, Sergei.

I'm glad you quoted Kaftan because I'm too damned lazy to read the first few pages again.

 

Someone alluded to this arrangement working both ways earlier. Let's bring that full circle.

 

Companies can't fire employees for economic reasons as long as the company is running a profit. Employees can't leave companies because they can make more money elsewhere as long as their inflation adjusted pay remains the same. See, that's reciprocity. Sound like fun?

 

I'd rather have our model, but then again I've bought into the propaganda. M.War, you kill me sometimes, but I do enjoy your posts. Good times, man!

 

 

 

I just hope i am not taken as dead serious as Volourn... that would be deep wound for me

 

 

I would recommend that you read up on how historical research works before taking the "everything is propaganda" route.

 

Of course, you aren't saying that everything is propaganda, only that IT COULD BE. And that is not your opinion, but IT COULD BE, right?

 

Of course not everything is propaganda, but to have bigger chance to avoid any propaganda you have to read on both sides... If anyone believes that only ex-communistic countries was doing deep propaganda, he sould stop feeding with blue pills and take a red pill for once...

Edited November 13, 2009 by Mamoulian War

[213374U]

Of course not everything is propaganda, but to have bigger chance to avoid any propaganda you have to read on both sides...

But that's exactly the thing - you are assuming that scholars are "on a side", based on where they were born. That's not serious. Conversely, nobody has suggested that Russian accounts of events are dismissed, just because they used to be dirty commies.

 

What "side" are academics that study economic models in Antiquity on, exactly?

[Nepenthe]

Of course not everything is propaganda, but to have bigger chance to avoid any propaganda you have to read on both sides...

But that's exactly the thing - you are assuming that scholars are "on a side", based on where they were born. That's not serious. Conversely, nobody has suggested that Russian accounts of events are dismissed, just because they used to be dirty commies.

 

What "side" are academics that study economic models in Antiquity on, exactly?

 

The problem with Russian authors is that they tend to have an over-dependance on Russian material. Considering their recent past, the veracity of their source material might be seriously warped (say, WWII accounts).

[Lare Kikkeli]

Saying moderate socialism and workers rights = SOVIET UNION is retarded, as is saying there was something good in the Soviet Union. So we've got two retards fighting.

[Nepenthe]

Saying moderate socialism and workers rights = SOVIET UNION is retarded, as is saying there was something good in the Soviet Union. So we've got two retards fighting.

 

Just two?

[Purkake]

I came here for a boring news story, but stayed for the lulz.

 

Keep it up people!

[Walsingham]

There's a retard fight and no-one invited me? I'm hurt.

[Purkake]

You can still be the main event

[zombie_hero]

It's pretty crazy how big companies lay off so many people and make so many salary cuts. I understand to an extent, but honestly I'm pretty sure they can live without those kind of actions.

[Purkake]

It's pretty crazy how big companies lay off so many people and make so many salary cuts. I understand to an extent, but honestly I'm pretty sure they can live without those kind of actions.

You're not a true capitalist!

 

The free market will surely fix this.

[Monte Carlo]

Saying moderate socialism and workers rights = SOVIET UNION is retarded, as is saying there was something good in the Soviet Union. So we've got two retards fighting.

 

If you think that my comment about command economies = retard then shame on you. Moderate socialism is a tautology. It's like having moderate rabies. So-called socialist countries usually practice wholly corrupt, corporate bordello capitalism, just have more dudes in uniforms putting journalists in prison. China springs to mind, so does Russia.

 

Please quote so-called socialist Scandinavian countries in riposte so I can rend your argument at my leisure.

[zombie_hero]

Ok I could be wrong, I have been b4 haha

[Purkake]

Ha ha ha.

[Hurlshort]

This is just 10% of EA employees. It may seem like a huge number, But EA is also a huge company.

[Mamoulian War]

Saying moderate socialism and workers rights = SOVIET UNION is retarded, as is saying there was something good in the Soviet Union. So we've got two retards fighting.

 

Saying there was nothing good in Soviet Union, is even more retared

 

Look at the cosmic research for example... it would be nowhere the current state, without them!!!