Deadly_Nightshade Posted December 30, 2008 Posted December 30, 2008 Windows 7 has been leaked to the interwebs! Information Week Wired ars technica "Geez. It's like we lost some sort of bet and ended up saddled with a bunch of terrible new posters on this forum." -Hurlshot
Meshugger Posted December 30, 2008 Posted December 30, 2008 Err, it is a beta, not the final version. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy
Meshugger Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 Hey you lazy bastards, the beta is now officially out and i want numbers. How's the performance in games and applications? 32 or 64-bit? Bokishi? "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy
Arkan Posted January 13, 2009 Posted January 13, 2009 Yeah. A beta OS from Microsoft....that's what I'm looking for. But hey, at least you don't have to pay for this one like Vista. "Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." - Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials "I have also been slowly coming to the realisation that knowledge and happiness are not necessarily coincident, and quite often mutually exclusive" - meta
WILL THE ALMIGHTY Posted January 13, 2009 Posted January 13, 2009 Wait, its free? "We have a new touchscreen feature!" Well sorry MS, I don't have a freaking touchscreen monitor. "Alright, I've been thinking. When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade - make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons, what am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life's manager. Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons. Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down! With the lemons. I'm going to to get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!"
Humodour Posted January 13, 2009 Posted January 13, 2009 Windows 7 aka "Guys, you really ought to buy this from us. It's Windows Vista, but possibly not ****!" 'Cause god knows they're done for if this flops too. I sure as **** am not budging from XP and Ubuntu.
Killian Kalthorne Posted January 13, 2009 Posted January 13, 2009 I just don't get why people are so anti-Vista. I had Vista since it was released and I haven't had any major problems with it. I had more problems with XP and ME than I have ever had with Vista. "Your Job is not to die for your country, but set a man on fire, and take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe."
Bokishi Posted January 13, 2009 Posted January 13, 2009 I downloaded but am too lazy to install Current 3DMark
Nightshape Posted January 13, 2009 Posted January 13, 2009 I just don't get why people are so anti-Vista. I had Vista since it was released and I haven't had any major problems with it. I had more problems with XP and ME than I have ever had with Vista. Me too... I came up with Crate 3.0 technology. Crate 4.0 - we shall just have to wait and see.Down and out on the Solomani RimNow the Spinward Marches don't look so GRIM!
mkreku Posted January 13, 2009 Posted January 13, 2009 I don't think the aversion towards Vista is a notion exclusive to Vista. It's just that, if you make an OS that takes up 16 GB on the harddrive and runs poorly on any system with less than 2 GB RAM, you expect the OS to make up for those system demands with something. But it doesn't. It isn't faster, it isn't better, it isn't more efficient. In fact, it's the opposite! So basically Vista has the worst of two worlds: bloated system demands and worse performance (compared to XP). So why should anyone switch to Vista..? To be able to utilize more than 2 GB RAM? Unless you only need more than 2 GB RAM because your OS takes up the first 2 GB.. But who doesn't hate bloatware? I am always impressed by programs that take up little space and does wonders with what it uses. NOD32 used to be small, fast and efficient, for example. Irfanview used to be small and extremely efficient. Netscape died when it became bloatware. ICQ died when it became bloatware. And so on. Swedes, go to: Spel2, for the latest game reviews in swedish!
Morgoth Posted January 13, 2009 Posted January 13, 2009 Vista is awesome. Vista will also support DX11, which XP won't. Therefor, Vista wins! Rain makes everything better.
Kaftan Barlast Posted January 13, 2009 Posted January 13, 2009 Vista is bloated and slow, which is bad. When you get something new, you expect it to be better than the old thing. Im running Vistax64 because there werent enough stable drivers for XP64 and it works fine as long as I 1) buy a 10,000RPM raptor disk to compensate for the increased load times 2) hack and disable a whole ****load of features I dont need. I shouldnt have had to do that, a new OS should be faster and better than the old one. Or if thats not possible, offer enough cool stuff to compensate. The first I heard about Windows 7 is that they were going for a fast and streamlined OS compltely opposite to Vista. But now all I hear about is the other bloat-sounding feature after the other. DISCLAIMER: Do not take what I write seriously unless it is clearly and in no uncertain terms, declared by me to be meant in a serious and non-humoristic manner. If there is no clear indication, asume the post is written in jest. This notification is meant very seriously and its purpouse is to avoid misunderstandings and the consequences thereof. Furthermore; I can not be held accountable for anything I write on these forums since the idea of taking serious responsability for my unserious actions, is an oxymoron in itself. Important: as the following sentence contains many naughty words I warn you not to read it under any circumstances; botty, knickers, wee, erogenous zone, psychiatrist, clitoris, stockings, bosom, poetry reading, dentist, fellatio and the department of agriculture. "I suppose outright stupidity and complete lack of taste could also be considered points of view. "
Deadly_Nightshade Posted January 13, 2009 Author Posted January 13, 2009 I had more problems with XP and ME than I have ever had with Vista. Exactly. "Geez. It's like we lost some sort of bet and ended up saddled with a bunch of terrible new posters on this forum." -Hurlshot
neckthrough Posted January 13, 2009 Posted January 13, 2009 http://arstechnica.com/articles/paedia/windows-7-beta.ars/1 I'm definitely optimistic. No cure for the bloat or device incompatibilities, but things look nice on the UI front.
Maria Caliban Posted January 14, 2009 Posted January 14, 2009 But it doesn't. It isn't faster, it isn't better, it isn't more efficient. Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator load faster and searching for files is easier. On the other hand, you can't touch the hardware acceleration and the UAC is a pain. "When is this out. I can't wait to play it so I can talk at length about how bad it is." - Gorgon.
Humodour Posted January 14, 2009 Posted January 14, 2009 But it doesn't. It isn't faster, it isn't better, it isn't more efficient. Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator load faster and searching for files is easier. Is that really beneficial though, since it Vista basically uses twice as much CPU and memory to begin with?
Humodour Posted January 14, 2009 Posted January 14, 2009 RAM IS CHEAP I'm sure Microsoft arrogantly thought the same thing, too. Which is probably part of the reason why Vista bombed so badly.
Kaftan Barlast Posted January 14, 2009 Posted January 14, 2009 MY MOTHERBOARD CAN ONLY TAKE 8GB AND I NEED 7.5GB OF IT. so stop hogging it, software mogul bastards. DISCLAIMER: Do not take what I write seriously unless it is clearly and in no uncertain terms, declared by me to be meant in a serious and non-humoristic manner. If there is no clear indication, asume the post is written in jest. This notification is meant very seriously and its purpouse is to avoid misunderstandings and the consequences thereof. Furthermore; I can not be held accountable for anything I write on these forums since the idea of taking serious responsability for my unserious actions, is an oxymoron in itself. Important: as the following sentence contains many naughty words I warn you not to read it under any circumstances; botty, knickers, wee, erogenous zone, psychiatrist, clitoris, stockings, bosom, poetry reading, dentist, fellatio and the department of agriculture. "I suppose outright stupidity and complete lack of taste could also be considered points of view. "
Tigranes Posted January 14, 2009 Posted January 14, 2009 Looks like another Windows going further towards the WE-KNOW-BEST-STOP-CUSTOMISING stages. While the Start Menu has undergone radical improvements (culminating in Vista's searchable Start Menu, which I can't live without), What? I can't find anything with that crap. The Start Panel won't allow manual sorting, won't stay where it is, and... sucks. Whether a program is currently running or not is, to me, a minor detail, (in the taskbar) That's... what. WHY WOULD THAT BE MINOR Applications that are willing to include specific support for Windows 7 can do more than just customize their jump lists ...they instead show previews on the taskbar. Sounds exactly like those previews in Vista's folders that caused so much frigging lag for lower-end computers. Dragging a window to the top of the screen maximizes it; More stupid annoyances you just hope you'll be able to turn off. Finally, there's a neat new way of minimizing every window except the one you're using; picking up a window by the title bar and shaking it from left to right minimizes everything else, a feature dubbed "Aero Shake". Shaking it again restores all the minimized windows. Sounds like the Return to Desktop button, except NEW AGE it doesn't really perform significantly better (than Vista). If you have software or hardware that's incompatible with Vista, it'll almost certainly be incompatible with Windows 7 too. So what reason is there to get this, unless to look at the shinies? Looks like more XP for me. Let's Play: Icewind Dale Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Icewind Dale II Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Divinity II (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG1 (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG2 (In Progress)
Bokishi Posted January 14, 2009 Posted January 14, 2009 RAM IS CHEAP I'm sure Microsoft arrogantly thought the same thing, too. Which is probably part of the reason why Vista bombed so badly. lol quit being stuck in 2007, a lot of my friends have no problem with Vista now, and you can get 4 gigs of DDR2 for $40. $10 per gig is not arrogant Current 3DMark
Tigranes Posted January 14, 2009 Posted January 14, 2009 1) lol 32bit lol 2) lol so if its cheap its okay to be a resource hog No excuses for Vista. Let's Play: Icewind Dale Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Icewind Dale II Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Divinity II (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG1 (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG2 (In Progress)
Strix Posted January 14, 2009 Posted January 14, 2009 I'm sure Microsoft arrogantly thought the same thing, too. Which is probably part of the reason why Vista bombed so badly. No, the reason Vista "bombed so badly" is because everyone decided it was bad - mainly based on the fact that people with crappy PCs tried to run it.
Bokishi Posted January 14, 2009 Posted January 14, 2009 (edited) 1) lol 32bit lol 2) lol so if its cheap its okay to be a resource hog No excuses for Vista. lol people like you seem to forget XP was a "hog" compared to win98. zomg win98 run ok with 64MB RAM, why won't XP?!?! And #2 is correct Edited January 15, 2009 by Bokishi Current 3DMark
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