Australia to Resettle Guantanamo Detainees

[Walsingham]

Does this remind anyone else of a game of Illuminati? i love that game. What they need is an online version.

[Gorgon]

I can't think of one example where the UN has handled anything remotely successfully. Commitments are patchy, command structures bloated and sluggish, attention spans butterfly thin. And that's before you factor in the inherently creaky mechanisms of UN mandates.

 

Until we can come up with a better global forum for dealing with global issues, it's the only game in town.

 

The WHO and the UNCHR have had some notable successes, such as eradicating smallpox, and one other easily treated pandemic, what was it again... some time in the 50s. That's not to say it could not have been achieved more efficiently, but it's a good example of why you need a global forum.

Edited January 5, 2009 by Gorgon

[Killian Kalthorne]

Good news for anti Amerikans... according to Russian 'experts', Amerika will be 'no more' by the end of 2010...

 

The next logical question is who will the world's ire be turned towards next as the 'big bad bully'. R00fles!

 

Luxembourg!

[Walsingham]

Until we can come up with a better global forum for dealing with global issues, it's the only game in town.

 

The WHO and the UNCHR have had some notable successes, such as eradicating smallpox, and one other easily treated pandemic, what was it again... some time in the 50s. That's not to say it could not have been achieved more efficiently, but it's a good example of why you need a global forum.

 

I see where you're going, but I don't think it works. Some things just aren't safe until they actually work. It's like saying that its ok to drive your car with faulty brakes because you can't afford to fix them.

 

The health things are a good example, but of a different issue. They are good, well defined, slow issues that don't move quicker than the bureaucracy that is managing them. Unlike military-political situations.

[Humodour]

Oh well, nothing is going to change anyway. The US will continue to poke its nose where it doesn't belong. The UN will still be largely ineffective. Most of the nations will stomp their feet in disgust at the US while at the same time asking the US for a hand out. Nothing ever changes.

 

Well they have some competition again.

 

Russia just passed a law authorising their military to station warships at various countries (100 or so) around the world "in case a something goes wrong or a situation flares up".

 

Don't get me wrong, I'd like America to have some competition for status as 'world police' - I'd just prefer it be, say, Europe, instead of a corrupt Russia that's slowly reverting back to totalitarianism and agitating for Cold War 2.0.

[Wrath of Dagon]

Ah, yes, the fearsome Russian fleet. Unfortunately a Russian ship that's stationed somewhere is likely to remain stationary, if not actually sink.

[Walsingham]

I think I've managed to derail us.

 

Gitmo detainees. Some innocents, but mostly highly dubious characters? If so, why on Earth would anyone want them?

[Meshugger]

I think I've managed to derail us.

 

Gitmo detainees. Some innocents, but mostly highly dubious characters? If so, why on Earth would anyone want them?

 

This might sound cynical, but several prisons in the US making a lot of money by having their prisoners to work for different subcontractors in different industries (within the prison of course). The wage is in the vein of cents per hour and the workers are not allowed to unionize or anything remotely similar. I mean, who wouldn't want those people, that are most likely to spend their lives inside the prison walls. Instead of waiting for death, while not work yourself to death instead?

Edited January 5, 2009 by Meshugger

[Gorgon]

They have the war on drugs to supply them with a workforce, the war on terror is not terribly yieldy (is that a word) in this respect.

[Humodour]

I don't think US prisons are anything any decent, civilised country should be aspiring to.

[Killian Kalthorne]

I don't think US prisons are anything any decent, civilised country should be aspiring to.

 

There are many that are better than some inner city neighborhoods.

[Kelverin]

I don't think US prisons are anything any decent, civilised country should be aspiring to.

 

There are many that are better than some inner city neighborhoods.

Many? All are, were else can you get 3 hots, cot and all the sex you can stand.

[Amelyssan The Blackhearted]

Former? More like current. am i rite or am i rite?

 

no comment less I start sounding like Darth Bean over there

[Amelyssan The Blackhearted]

"Also the UN is the best the world has to deal with joint projects."

 

LOLZ

 

 

"The US cannot afford to do things alone no matter what the Neo-Cons thinks."

 

Hilariously enough, neither Iraq or Afghanistan were solo projects.

 

They might as well be. The only other nation that did any significant work was Britain and they have pretty bugged out now. Everyone else that contributed only gave token support.

 

And this proves you've got no idea what your talking about. Australia's had forces in both regions before during AND after US involvement. Especially in Afghanistan.

[Gorgon]

The list goes on, I think only countries with specific constitutions or policies like Germany and Sweden etc, have not contributed to UNFOR in Afghanistan, it's a very wide range.

[Walsingham]

Indeed, one thing you can say about the Aussies. They know when a job wants doing, and they bloody stick to it.

[Humodour]

Mmm. Australia sent thousands of troops, as did America and Britain. Our commitment obviously isn't as large as America and Britain's, but it's still formidable.

 

I'm pretty sure Poland did similar.

 

I fully support the Afghanistan peacekeeping effort. I'm still unsure about Iraq; I obviously support our forces, but the intentions for the invasion were misplaced, and there are worse brutal dictatorships in the world. Though that's not really an excuse for inaction, either, in my mind - I guess history will be the arbiter here.