Guard Dog Posted April 29, 2008 Posted April 29, 2008 TEHRAN - A top Iranian judiciary official warned yesterday against the "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Gorgon Posted April 29, 2008 Posted April 29, 2008 Hah, there is of course not a damn thing they can do about the dispersal of American cultural imperialism into every home with a satellite dish. They have named the enemy, but mind control is notoriously difficult in a completely media saturated world. Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all.
Humodour Posted April 29, 2008 Posted April 29, 2008 Hmmm, maybe we should start air drops of Barbies and Batman comics over Iran. I support this idea with every bone in my body. BATMAN SAVES THE MIDDLE EAST!
Gorgon Posted April 29, 2008 Posted April 29, 2008 by Frank Miller @ Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all.
Arkan Posted April 29, 2008 Posted April 29, 2008 Hmmm, maybe we should start air drops of Barbies and Batman comics over Iran. I support this idea with every bone in my body. BATMAN SAVES THE MIDDLE EAST! Hell, drop Playboys, too. "Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." - Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials "I have also been slowly coming to the realisation that knowledge and happiness are not necessarily coincident, and quite often mutually exclusive" - meta
~Di Posted April 30, 2008 Posted April 30, 2008 Hell, drop Playboys, too. God no, half the populace would die of heart attacks!
Gromnir Posted April 30, 2008 Posted April 30, 2008 "Hah, there is of course not a damn thing they can do about the dispersal of American cultural imperialism into every home with a satellite dish." little girls in tehran playing with barbie as bellwether o' inevitability o' American cultural imperialism? is just so many things wrong with that. but am honestly conflicted as to which we finds more ludicrous: barbie as an expression o' American culture or iranian religious fundamentalists getting themselves into a frothy lather 'cause o' barbie. *shrug* am not one of those folks that is driven to violence by barbie and the impossible standard it sets for young girls, but fact that it is arguable that barbie does indeed represent some kinda western idealized notion o' feminine beauty does makes us a tad bit queasy. 'course, a condoleezza rice or janet reno doll would be no less creepy than would barbie. HA! Good Fun! "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019)
Humodour Posted April 30, 2008 Posted April 30, 2008 extremes are often the strongest forces for social change, gromnir; they force people out of their comfort zone and tend to make them wonder the 'how' and 'why' of the extreme. nobody is saying Iranians kids will soon all have barbies and dress like skanks, but exposure to something as simple as barbies could be a powerful seed for social change for the better over there.
Walsingham Posted April 30, 2008 Posted April 30, 2008 Hell, drop Playboys, too. God no, half the populace would die of heart attacks! Sod dropping Playboys. the last thing a misogynist needs is porn. Drop The Handmaid's Tale "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
Nick_i_am Posted April 30, 2008 Posted April 30, 2008 If they were true misogynists the'd make their own! (Approved by Fio, so feel free to use it)
Tigranes Posted April 30, 2008 Posted April 30, 2008 I love how we have this great convergence between OE news and Colbert news. Let's Play: Icewind Dale Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Icewind Dale II Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Divinity II (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG1 (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG2 (In Progress)
astr0creep Posted April 30, 2008 Posted April 30, 2008 I wonder if they have such opposition to GIJoe toys... Oh and Playboy is tame. I'd drop something... harder! http://entertainmentandbeyond.blogspot.com/
Sand Posted April 30, 2008 Posted April 30, 2008 I wonder if they have such opposition to GIJoe toys... Oh and Playboy is tame. I'd drop something... harder! Pics of Anne Coulter and Rush Limbaugh getting it on? Murphy's Law of Computer Gaming: The listed minimum specifications written on the box by the publisher are not the minimum specifications of the game set by the developer. @\NightandtheShape/@ - "Because you're a bizzare strange deranged human?" Walsingham- "Sand - always rushing around, stirring up apathy." Joseph Bulock - "Another headache, courtesy of Sand"
Walsingham Posted April 30, 2008 Posted April 30, 2008 I wonder if they have such opposition to GIJoe toys... Oh and Playboy is tame. I'd drop something... harder! Pics of Anne Coulter and Rush Limbaugh getting it on? For the love of common humanity... NO. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
Sand Posted April 30, 2008 Posted April 30, 2008 For the love of common humanity... NO. Oh, come on now. You know how I feel about the bulk of humanity. BRING IT ON! It could be worse. It could be Barbara Bush and Ted Kennedy. Murphy's Law of Computer Gaming: The listed minimum specifications written on the box by the publisher are not the minimum specifications of the game set by the developer. @\NightandtheShape/@ - "Because you're a bizzare strange deranged human?" Walsingham- "Sand - always rushing around, stirring up apathy." Joseph Bulock - "Another headache, courtesy of Sand"
Walsingham Posted April 30, 2008 Posted April 30, 2008 For the love of common humanity... NO. Oh, come on now. You know how I feel about the bulk of humanity. Yeah, and if you do that then they'll reciprocate. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
Jediphile Posted April 30, 2008 Posted April 30, 2008 I can see it now... "Who will save the free world from the extremism of the Middle East?" Nana-nanana-nanana-nananana - BATMAN! http://youtube.com/watch?v=IQBobrCBTNI Visit my KotOR blog at Deadly Forums.
Gorgon Posted April 30, 2008 Posted April 30, 2008 "Hah, there is of course not a damn thing they can do about the dispersal of American cultural imperialism into every home with a satellite dish." little girls in tehran playing with barbie as bellwether o' inevitability o' American cultural imperialism? is just so many things wrong with that. but am honestly conflicted as to which we finds more ludicrous: barbie as an expression o' American culture or iranian religious fundamentalists getting themselves into a frothy lather 'cause o' barbie. *shrug* am not one of those folks that is driven to violence by barbie and the impossible standard it sets for young girls, but fact that it is arguable that barbie does indeed represent some kinda western idealized notion o' feminine beauty does makes us a tad bit queasy. 'course, a condoleezza rice or janet reno doll would be no less creepy than would barbie. HA! Good Fun! What they really fear is that their indoctrination of the population to religious autocracy is undermined by the mixed messages of consumer society. Buying an Ipod or a porshe is a statement of identity, just as faithfully attending mosque is. In this view, Barbie of all things can be revolutionary. It can seduce kids and make them forget that they are supposed to be god fearing and accept the official ideology. Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all.
Gromnir Posted April 30, 2008 Posted April 30, 2008 am perfectly aware of why the iranian religious fundamentalists is afeared. is the pointlessness o' the fear we find amusing. Japan and the US weren't able to have much luck with their different approaches to isolationism... and that were 100 years ago for the US and even longer for Japan. in this day and age, given the access to vast quantities o' information and entertainment with no delay and little cost, attempts to protect a culture from unwanted exterior influences is pretty much impossible. can educate/indoctrinate your populace to protect from unwanted ideas, but is impossible to truly insulate. foolishness. just as silly/sad is the notion that barbie is somehow synonymous with american culture. is a minimally offensive notion, made all the more irksome cause it is possibly truthful, at least from pov o' those not living in the US. btw, our new hobby has been collecting first editions o' classic books. ever wonder what beowulf were before the catholic monks got a hold of it and christianized it? nobody will ever know. pick up a copy o' Huckleberry Finn and tell us how you is certain that you is getting the original author's words. how many reprints is your copy? how easy is it to change and create information nowadays? pretty darn easy. heck, if you were so inclined, anybody here could quote/paste a news article from a reputable source and post it in a few hundred prominent places on web, and within days Gromnir is certain you would see other folks quoting the same article as if it were genuine... even if you simply made the whole thing up in your imagination. maybe links to a genuine looking website if you is so-inclined. anybody knows how wiki entries is created? how many peoples here use wiki from time to time? most? makes us sound a little paranoid, but Gromnir collects first editions... 'cause short of being able to speak with the dead, that is 'bout the only way we can be certain we is actually getting author's original words. is far too easy to change reality via the internet. HA! Good Fun! "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019)
Guard Dog Posted May 1, 2008 Author Posted May 1, 2008 ever wonder what beowulf were before the catholic monks got a hold of it and christianized it? nobody will ever know. Unless you spoke old english you would never know. Besides, the first edition of Beowulf was most likely told by word of mouth. maybe links to a genuine looking website if you is so-inclined. anybody knows how wiki entries is created? how many peoples here use wiki from time to time? most? makes us sound a little paranoid, but Gromnir collects first editions... 'cause short of being able to speak with the dead, that is 'bout the only way we can be certain we is actually getting author's original words. is far too easy to change reality via the internet. HA! Good Fun! Wiki is useless for contemporary topics like politics religion or philosophy (or anything open to interpretation). For history or hard facts it's pretty reliable. It's interesting that you bring up Huckelberry Finn. It was pointed out to me by someone else that the word count of the 1949 edition and the 1968 edition (next reissue) were different. The newer issue was short by some 7000 or so words if I remember correctly. I never researched it but the one who pointed it out was my Techical Writing instructor in college. It was either Huck Finn or Tom Sawyer. I'm pretty sure it was the former. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Gromnir Posted May 1, 2008 Posted May 1, 2008 "Unless you spoke old english you would never know. Besides, the first edition of Beowulf was most likely told by word of mouth." yeah, and it were the monks who wrote it down, so that is the beowulf we know... and who knows how many revisions there has been since first time it got written? as for wiki being accurate on facts and dates... *shrug* is getting so that Gromnir not believe a damned thing we read on the internet. how you know that the dates and facts is correct unless you got firsthand knowledge? is very difficult to track down wiki source materials, and is not as if you can rely on integrity of publisher. perception is reality far too often... and it is getting easier and easier to alter perception by means of a few keystrokes. as for huck finn word count... honestly we don't know. there were an original manuscript that were discovered long after Twain's death (late 1980s?) that included substantially greater material... almost 2x as many pages as the released first edition from 1884. Gromnir has a copy o' the new edition based on the 'posed original manuscript, but we ain't never been able to do much research on whether or not it were the version Twain wanted published. doesn't sound like what you is talking 'bout. HA! Good Fun! "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019)
~Di Posted May 1, 2008 Posted May 1, 2008 I wonder if they have such opposition to GIJoe toys... Oh and Playboy is tame. I'd drop something... harder! Pics of Anne Coulter and Rush Limbaugh getting it on? Well, thanks to that image permanently burned into my brain I may never have sex again. *shudder*
Nick_i_am Posted May 1, 2008 Posted May 1, 2008 Yeah, you having sex was an image we wanted too I mean...tell us more. (Approved by Fio, so feel free to use it)
blue Posted May 1, 2008 Posted May 1, 2008 It's interesting that you bring up Huckelberry Finn. It was pointed out to me by someone else that the word count of the 1949 edition and the 1968 edition (next reissue) were different. The newer issue was short by some 7000 or so words if I remember correctly. I never researched it but the one who pointed it out was my Techical Writing instructor in college. It was either Huck Finn or Tom Sawyer. I'm pretty sure it was the former. Over the last quarter-century, thousands of popular and peer-reviewed articles have discussed Twain
~Di Posted May 2, 2008 Posted May 2, 2008 Yeah, you having sex was an image we wanted too I mean...tell us more. I'm getting a little tired of you insulting and baiting me, so I'm asking you nicely to stop.
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