Yu-Cheng Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 (edited) Sorry, My English is so pool, but we like NWN2, please help our! We wait Obsidian & Bioware fix the bug for enter ASIA Language in NWN2. Like Traditional Chinese, Simplified Chinese, Japanese, etc. Any ASIA 2Bytes Unicode character will break when we enter in Multiplayer game Please see this site, it's write error message http://nwn2forums.bioware.com/forums/viewt...&highlight= This is our complaint blog, sorry this is Chinese http://www.pcfit.idv.tw/nwn2bug/ This is our forums in Taiwan http://www.pcfit.idv.tw/nwn2/ about this discuss http://www.pcfit.idv.tw/nwn2/index.php?opt...mp;catid=6#1418 I'm Star World's knight Yu-Cheng Hsu Edited December 23, 2007 by Yu-Cheng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadly_Nightshade Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 (edited) Shouldn't this be moved to Obsidian General? Edited December 23, 2007 by Deadly_Nightshade "Geez. It's like we lost some sort of bet and ended up saddled with a bunch of terrible new posters on this forum." -Hurlshot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fionavar Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Shouldn't this be moved to Obsidian General? At the moment, that would make sense. Thanks you Yu-Cheng for taking the time to share your concern - hopefully there will be some resolution for you and those who share this issue. The universe is change; your life is what our thoughts make it - Marcus Aurelius (161) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaftan Barlast Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 I would adress anything to do with Localization to ATARi. OE has nothing to do with that, to my knowledge. DISCLAIMER: Do not take what I write seriously unless it is clearly and in no uncertain terms, declared by me to be meant in a serious and non-humoristic manner. If there is no clear indication, asume the post is written in jest. This notification is meant very seriously and its purpouse is to avoid misunderstandings and the consequences thereof. Furthermore; I can not be held accountable for anything I write on these forums since the idea of taking serious responsability for my unserious actions, is an oxymoron in itself. Important: as the following sentence contains many naughty words I warn you not to read it under any circumstances; botty, knickers, wee, erogenous zone, psychiatrist, clitoris, stockings, bosom, poetry reading, dentist, fellatio and the department of agriculture. "I suppose outright stupidity and complete lack of taste could also be considered points of view. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yu-Cheng Posted December 23, 2007 Author Share Posted December 23, 2007 (edited) Taiwan ATARI say it is not his responsibility by use Chinese in Multiplayer. From NeverWinter Night to NeverWinter Night2, Taiwan ATARI always throw about language to manufacturing company. For example, Chinese for NeverWinter Night, is our try to Chinese, and then Taiwan ATARI use it, say it is their accomplishment, but China and Taiwan's people know it is accomplishment by 2 people : penguin and X-Liu. When NeverWinter Night2, Taiwan ATARI don't have capable to Chinese. They visit China and our organization to solve it. Taiwan's people very hate Taiwan ATARI, they always throw responsibility to other people. This site say Taiwan Atari interpret is so bad to NeverWinter Night http://zh.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...p;variant=zh-tw The interpret of NeverWinter Night2 just soso, and female leading actor don't interpret. We are very hate Taiwan ATARI. Edited December 23, 2007 by Yu-Cheng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaguars4ever Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 It's good to hear that Atari are spreading their usual customer service bliss for the benefit of gamers world-wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoma Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 It sucks to know that the franchise is being shoddily translated into Asian language. As much as you hate to hear what I am going to say, I will suggest that you buy an English version of Neverwinter Nights 2 instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humodour Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Atari is not known for good service - it isn't just local to Taiwan Atari. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Wanderer~ Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 (edited) The Error message said that --- ---------------- -------- ---------------- Neverwinter Nights 2 : nwn2main.exe Error "memory address" "The memory cannot be "read" " Press "OK" to Abort Press "Cancel" to Debug ------- ---------------- ------- ---------- Error Message in Chinese: http://blog.xuite.net/hsuyucheng/Knight/14931253 Yu-Cheng also mentioned that Chinese user were both unhappy with the translation of NWN1 which translated by Taiwan ATARI, coz it is unbelieveable suck! It's known as "The Lauguage of Mars" or "kick teech grandmother" http://zh.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...p;variant=zh-tw Can't you see the same dialog and the terrible number"67749"? It's the dialog First greeting with Linu La'neral, The idiom "kicked my teeth in" means "ignore", but in the picture as you see, it translated as "kick my teeth "! I'm a Chinese User , but I can't read the terrible translation in NWN1, I can't get the meaning of the dialog... It's not a regular Chinese, the grammer is totally wrong and easily confused... ALL the translation in NWN1 just like these!! The Reason of the bad quality was that the Taiwan ATARI used "translation software" ONLY... Lastly, the Most Important thing is that we still can't UPDATE if we used Chinses version, the problem still not be fixed until now !! We had reported since v1.00, now we freeze in v1.10, Taiwan ATARI just said that they will fixed it , they just deny that they are responsible. PLEASE HELP US, WE NEED HELP !! Edited December 24, 2007 by ~Wanderer~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigranes Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 The Reason of the bad quality was that the Taiwan ATARI used "translation software" Wow, that's horrible. That must be impossible to understand. Unfortunately, I'm not sure what we can do - the localisation is SUPPOSED to be done by the publisher (Atari), but if Taiwan Atari are dragging their feet... The only way to get good localisation is to do it yourself (fan-fixes) or force Taiwan Atari to do it, but I'm not sure how that could be done. I don't think Obsidian Entertainment would be able to put that much pressure on Atari, much less Taiwan Atari. I do sympathise, though - do you have any suggestions on how we can help? I suppose its good at least to put the word about and make people realise. Let's Play: Icewind Dale Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Icewind Dale II Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Divinity II (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG1 (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG2 (In Progress) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athena Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 (edited) I really hate to hear that "why don't you go buy an En verion one" coming out of the community. It's incredibly irresponsible. How? 'coz Atari is selling their product oversea, and as long as they do so, they are responsible for their whatever version of the game. As I notice in the first post, it's a simple code problem that the devs should have solved it years ago. The crash happens when typing in multiplayer mode which doesn't happens as single player. As what I've acknowledged, they've inform Ob so many times since the game first came out, and all the answer they've got is "We'll forword this to the devs" and then the stone lies down to the bottom of the sea. I personally mailed Robert McGinnis two times in the past 8 months, and him, for sure I believe, reported it to the devs. However, it eventually goes silence as well. As an American, I feel pathetic for those who think as the world is still running around U.S.A. Atari discovered a potential market in asia, in order to keep it and develop it, they really need to pay more attention on these clients. In addition, those DnD lovers who devoted themselves into building PWs in Asia are the true NWN2 diffuser. Mabe they couldn't discuss with us on the community board due to the language problem, but they deserve the same respect as the other builders, not the marginalization. Edited December 24, 2007 by Athena Athena, the sorrow of the morrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magister Lajciak Posted December 25, 2007 Share Posted December 25, 2007 I would try posting this complaint also on this forum: http://nwn2forums.bioware.com/forums/viewf....html?forum=121 It also gets developer visits and occassionally even ATARI visits, so the increased exposure will improve your chances of getting your issue noticed. Try posting it both in a separate thread and in one of the sticky threads on top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athena Posted December 25, 2007 Share Posted December 25, 2007 The reason why the complain went here is because they had tried to post on the community board already where the last post indicated. I personally posted in "Builders: NWN2 Persistent Worlds & Multiplayer" and "NWN 2 Technical Support (Self-Help) " categories several times, however, I got no affirmative answers. btw, Merry Christmas to everyone. Athena, the sorrow of the morrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Wanderer~ Posted December 25, 2007 Share Posted December 25, 2007 (edited) Actually, the translation problem of NWN1, we HAVE DONE it ourselves. We throw that terrible dialog into rubbish bin and translated it by those zealous players on http://www.pcfit.idv.tw/nwn2/ ... Mymag,Yazhi,Kaichong,Nickexe,X-liu ... If we have not done it ourselves, we shall have tormented by those terrilbe dialog from translation sofeware since now... ----------------------------- Taiwan Atari is known as a "Non-Helpful" company, it's sorry to complain so directly to you, it's because we are hopeless (may be faithless...). Unfortunately, I'm not sure what we can do - the localisation is SUPPOSED to be done by the publisher (Atari), but if Taiwan Atari are dragging their feet... Actually, we had collected some signatures before, we hoped that Taiwan Atari can transmit this bug to Obsidian , we even hoped that the bugs can be fixed before the Chinese MotB Expansion released . However , as you know , the bugs still exist, even you Obsidian don't know this bug!!! http://www.pcfit.idv.tw/nwn2bug/index.php?...=2&blogId=1 Besides posting message on the forum , collecting signatures, I can't see what we can do . I don't think Obsidian Entertainment would be able to put that much pressure on Atari, We know Obsidian would not be able to put that much pressure on Atari and Taiwan Atari , but it's the best solution this problem would be solved. Would you mind telling me what's the problem ? Taiwan Atari? Obsidian ? Or the Players ? ----------------- Please think highly of our problems ! Thanks all especially Fionavar and Tigranes. Anyways, Thank you for your replies and Merry Christmas!! Edited December 25, 2007 by ~Wanderer~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magister Lajciak Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 Merry Christmas to everybody indeed! I was not trying to suggest that the complaint does not belong here - I think it is appropriate right here. I merely suggested posting it also on the forums I linked in order to maximise the number of developers and company representatives who get to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 Following this with interest. I'm sure I speak for all of us in a hearty welcome to the Chinese language fans, and fully support getting this fixed. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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