Mask of the Betrayer Redux

[jaguars4ever]

Has anyone managed to get all 5 companions (with cheats)?

I'm using 4 party members w/ cheats. I don't think you can get 5, and even it you could it wouldn't make sense as two of them are mutually exclusive to the

same body

just like

Chai Ka/Ya Zhen

from Jade Empire.

Edited October 15, 2007 by jaguars4ever

[Pop]

I'm interested in running through as a spellcaster and seeing how the difficulty changes. My first playthrough was as a munchkin-d out fighter, and I was never truly challenged.

Edited October 15, 2007 by Pop

[Tigranes]

Well, finished the game. The two really strong points were plot and artistic direction: everything looked really beautiful and thematic, and the plot was a joy, though it unravelled a little fast in Act 3. Kaelyn was well written (though I couldn't seem to get everything out of it yet), and it did present nice dilemmas. One big thing I didn't get though -

so I decided to remain in the Fugue Plane and contain Akachi/Spirit Eater within me... how the hell did that preclude me from destroying the Wall of the Faithless? Couldn't I have (or tried to have) destroyed the wall, then remained on the plane anyway in order to keep the Spirit Eater dead? I mean, sure, Kelemvor probably would have killed my party, but there was no explanation given here, or I missed it.

 

 

I maintain that the gameplay stayed too 'static' for most of the game: while the lack of variation in enemies is understandable, the fact that their range of attacks and abilities were mostly inconsequential was disappointing. I could pretty much ignore who the enemy was, even most of the bosses, and just throw straight damage spells until they fell. I think spellcasting enemies seriously need an AI upgrade, and then the battles will get a lot more fun. As it is now, though - it's alright, and especially in the first half, pretty fun. I'd put it on par with OC combat, which I liked mostly.

 

Going to give it a little break then start again with a different character, and definitely try out One of Many. I did indeed miss a lot of things -

I never assembled the Mask (only 2 pieces), never took OoM/Gann, didn't find out what the mysterious box in the Thay academy was for, etc.

 

 

Pop: I took Spirit Shaman, who's actually as good as Okku at fighting with a spear - so I guess that was part of the reason. Along with Kaelyn wielding a mace with

the Fire Man Thing's essence

, I could take down most people in a matter of seconds.

Edited October 15, 2007 by Tigranes

[Meshugger]

Tigranes: getting

all three mask fragments is an essential part of the story

. You really missed out, IMO.

Edited October 15, 2007 by Meshugger

[jaguars4ever]

ZOMG, are you serious, Tigranes? You like just totally missed out on EVERYTHING. Good job, sport.

 

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And I have no idea what I'm talking about since I'm still in Act II

 

 

On the flip side, does anyone know if there are any consequences of NX1 OC npc cameo appearances or anything based upon the

Bishop

dialogue, the Safiya dialogue concerning

Elanee

, or the conversation with the

gargoyles

with the

Khelgar

dialogue option? It would be awesome if more of the old skool companions make an appearance.

[Tigranes]

Yeah, I really don't know how it happened. From what I remember,

I got the first bit in the Slumbering Coven dreams; then I remembered the dreamscape near the big Tree place, and went and slept under the moss-stone to get the second. But I was pretty careless about picking up loot near the end because there was no point, and I guess I missed the last fragment somewhere in the dreams? Where was I supposed to get the third?

 

 

Jaguar, you can find

an old companion in the Thay academy and have that companion join you.

 

 

But I do miss a lot of things on my first playthrough usually, so it's time to start again, probably try and devour a thousand things this time.

[Pop]

On the flip side, does anyone know if there are any consequences of NX1 OC npc cameo appearances or anything based upon the

Bishop

dialogue, the Safiya dialogue concerning

Elanee

, or the conversation with the

gargoyles

with the

Khelgar

dialogue option? It would be awesome if more of the old skool companions make an appearance.

Yeah, a few more. Some of their fates are mysteries, but the big 'uns you find out in the endgame and elsewhere. At least, when I played it.

[Tale]

I've got a friend that wants to know if you can buy potion stacks, yet. I don't know, anyone?

[Tigranes]

No. And you still can't get rid of the "really sell?" confirm thing, or press Enter to make it say OK. Sigh.

 

But then, each store only sells like 5 heal potions.

[Pop]

But unless you go solo (or just tag along the Thayan and Okku) you'll have a Heal machine in the party anyway.

[Spider]

Where was I supposed to get the third?

 

 

Apparently there is a similar dream stone in the hills area. Where the shapeshifters are. I missed it myself, but have a save before leaving for the Fugue Plane so I intend to try and fetch it and then replay the last part. If you have the Mask, you supposedly get the nice ending.

 

[Big Bottom]

No. And you still can't get rid of the "really sell?" confirm thing, or press Enter to make it say OK. Sigh.

 

But then, each store only sells like 5 heal potions.

 

I'm sure I saw an option for shop confirmation in the options screen, or was that just buying?

[Pop]

Nah, that feature's been in since NWN2 OC day. WHERE YA BEEN

 

Apparently there is a similar dream stone in the hills area. Where the shapeshifters are. I missed it myself, but have a save before leaving for the Fugue Plane so I intend to try and fetch it and then replay the last part. If you have the Mask, you supposedly get the nice ending.

 

There's no dream stone, you drink the water in the glade where Okku's ancestors pop up.

 

Edited October 16, 2007 by Pop

[Tigranes]

Ah, I see. I was there but I didn't really check that out.

 

I missed pretty much all the cool epic feats and spells this time round too, cause I didn't look at the requirements. This time I'll plan my character a bit, and also take One of Many.

[Volourn]

All i gots to say is that Obsidian seems to like me as I won't have to deal with the Spirit Meter at all in my game. HAHAHA!

[Spider]

Ah, I see. I was there but I didn't really check that out.

 

I missed pretty much all the cool epic feats and spells this time round too, cause I didn't look at the requirements.

 

Same here. Or I missed the only one I really wanted. The one that allows you to Sneak Attack everything (I should have taken Crippling Strike instead of Slippery Mind during the OC). On the other hand, given that I thought combat was fairly easy anyway, not having it may have turned out for the best.

[jaguars4ever]

All i gots to say is that Obsidian seems to like me as I won't have to deal with the Spirit Meter at all in my game. HAHAHA!

Explain.

[Tigranes]

Just spent 2 hours looking at different builds, can't really decide. I'm going to take One of Many

as a Brute (Warrior) then reclass him to Warlock at Coven

, and Gann, and maybe Kaelyn.

Are you able to choose feats and stuff for One of Many, or is it like Okku where he levels up auto?

 

 

I'm trying to figure out a really weird (and probably horribly inefficient, but eh) build, mainly a Rogue with emphasis on firing lots of arrows with the shortbow (working up to One Shot epic feat), while using Use Magic Device to cast lots of spells off the scrolls you find in the game.

 

I'm so out of date with 3.5 rules though - can you use Use Magic Device to use arcane scrolls? If so, what's the DC/req/thing if you want to do that with level 9 scrolls? Is that too high? And it doesn't seem worth it to get a level or two of Ranger, since the Ranger Specialisation feats don't seem to count as prerequisites for higher feats?

Edited October 16, 2007 by Tigranes

[Pop]

so far as I can tell, there's no real roll for Use Magic Device. Certain items and scrolls have certain DCs, and if your skill exceeds that DC you can use it with 100% efficiency. UMD really shines with things other than scrolls, though.

[Tigranes]

Of course. I just wanted to know if my idea of arcane spell-slinging rogue with archery feats could be achieved.

 

Time to get to it, then.

[Atreides]

The idea of a rogue that dresses up as a wiz and casts to bluff others is just awesome. Especially if you're trying to sneak into some arcane place to do something. Speech skills, int checks all around. Is that a mod I hear?

[Tigranes]

Well, I'm decking myself out with about 60 scrolls before letting Safiya go, I assume she will be like a sort of Garrisoned Scroll Shop while she waits out of the party. Also gave Kaelyn and Gann Scribe Scroll, and my UMD of ~23 is able to handle up to 7th level spells so far. (19Rogue/1Assassin)

 

The Rogue is spraying Improved Rapid Shot arrows (anyone know why the hell we can't craft bows??), Gann is

apparently built to be horrible at melee fighting though, so I suppose even with Kaelyn the party's going to be very lightweight till One of Many changes into Brute mode. I guess it'll make it more challenging, esp. against Okku.

 

 

By the way, what did you guys do with the

guy that tried to be a lich or something, in the house of Shadow Mulsantir? I released him the first time, then later found the Tome he spoke of and gave it to the necromancer-wannabe in Temple of Kelemvor, who ran off and was never heard of again...

 

Edited October 16, 2007 by Tigranes

[Volourn]

"Explain."

 

From reading the boards, after you defeat the first major enemy in the game, you should have a choice to devour its spirit energy or not. Afterwards, the spirit meter should show up. That never happen for me (and others), because of some major bug. So, it seems I won't even be able to judge the spirit meter system since I seemingly won't be effected by it if I'm reading things right. L0L

[Volourn]

Ignore the above rant.

[jaguars4ever]

That's the spirit, Volo!