Pop Posted July 4, 2007 Author Posted July 4, 2007 If the latest little peripheral details are to be believed, there will be dialogue options that won't be accessible to those without sufficient abilities, ala Fallouts 1/2 (whether or not this is restricted just to Speech and Charisma or expanded to other things, science, doctor, etc. remains to be seen) and the dialogue system itself is not the 1-word "speech" in Oblivion. It's slightly heartening. Overall, still looking forward to seeing how this turns out. Join me, and we shall make Production Beards a reality!
Tigranes Posted July 4, 2007 Posted July 4, 2007 (edited) Yay! See? We have enough to hang on, but still be a worrywart. Great way to wait. edit: unless you're Sand, in which case this merely confirms the steaming pile of rhino poo poo everything ever shaped by the hands of Todd Howard is. Edited July 4, 2007 by Tigranes Let's Play: Icewind Dale Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Icewind Dale II Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Divinity II (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG1 (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG2 (In Progress)
Sand Posted July 5, 2007 Posted July 5, 2007 Its real time with First Person view. That alone makes it not Fallout. Murphy's Law of Computer Gaming: The listed minimum specifications written on the box by the publisher are not the minimum specifications of the game set by the developer. @\NightandtheShape/@ - "Because you're a bizzare strange deranged human?" Walsingham- "Sand - always rushing around, stirring up apathy." Joseph Bulock - "Another headache, courtesy of Sand"
Slowtrain Posted July 5, 2007 Posted July 5, 2007 I thought the fact that it is not being released 10 years ago is what makes it not Fallout. Silly me. Notice how I can belittle your beliefs without calling you names. It's a useful skill to have particularly where you aren't allowed to call people names. It's a mistake to get too drawn in/worked up. I mean it's not life or death, it's just two guys posting their thoughts on a message board. If it were personal or face to face all the usual restraints would be in place, and we would never have reached this place in the first place. Try to remember that.
Sand Posted July 5, 2007 Posted July 5, 2007 Nah. If they made the game even remotely to the style of the originals but using updated graphic techniques then I would still consider it Fallout but as it stands now, I don't. A fully 3D dynamic environment is what I want out of a modern Fallout game, but not a FPS which Fallout 3 looks to be. Murphy's Law of Computer Gaming: The listed minimum specifications written on the box by the publisher are not the minimum specifications of the game set by the developer. @\NightandtheShape/@ - "Because you're a bizzare strange deranged human?" Walsingham- "Sand - always rushing around, stirring up apathy." Joseph Bulock - "Another headache, courtesy of Sand"
Lare Kikkeli Posted July 5, 2007 Posted July 5, 2007 Its real time with First Person view. That alone makes it not Fallout. It's Fallout because Beth owns Fallout, which means they decide what is Fallout and what is not. FT or FOBOS aren't Fallout.
Morgoth Posted July 5, 2007 Posted July 5, 2007 All those heaty debates about what makes Fallout "true" or not are so overrated. It's just a franchise like any other. First person? Fine, as long as they make it right. Rain makes everything better.
Llyranor Posted July 5, 2007 Posted July 5, 2007 Guys, guys! Let's listen to the guy who doesn't play games regarding his opinion on games that he doesn't play!! (Approved by Fio, so feel free to use it)
Pidesco Posted July 5, 2007 Posted July 5, 2007 Nah. If they made the game even remotely to the style of the originals but using updated graphic techniques then I would still consider it Fallout but as it stands now, I don't. A fully 3D dynamic environment is what I want out of a modern Fallout game, but not a FPS which Fallout 3 looks to be. I'd like to point out that you really don't have any say in the matter of the game being Fallout or not. It's Fallout because the owners of the brand say it is. "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian touristI am Dan Quayle of the Romans.I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands.Heja Sverige!!Everyone should cuffawkle more.The wrench is your friend.
Sand Posted July 5, 2007 Posted July 5, 2007 Nah. If they made the game even remotely to the style of the originals but using updated graphic techniques then I would still consider it Fallout but as it stands now, I don't. A fully 3D dynamic environment is what I want out of a modern Fallout game, but not a FPS which Fallout 3 looks to be. I'd like to point out that you really don't have any say in the matter of the game being Fallout or not. It's Fallout because the owners of the brand say it is. Whatever. So if Kellog but **** in a box and call it cornflakes, will it still be **** or cornflakes? Murphy's Law of Computer Gaming: The listed minimum specifications written on the box by the publisher are not the minimum specifications of the game set by the developer. @\NightandtheShape/@ - "Because you're a bizzare strange deranged human?" Walsingham- "Sand - always rushing around, stirring up apathy." Joseph Bulock - "Another headache, courtesy of Sand"
Diogo Ribeiro Posted July 5, 2007 Posted July 5, 2007 Whatever. So if Kellog put **** in a box and call it cornflakes, will it still be **** or cornflakes? It would still be a Kellog brand, but ****ty instead of flakey.
Sand Posted July 5, 2007 Posted July 5, 2007 Whatever. So if Kellog put **** in a box and call it cornflakes, will it still be **** or cornflakes? It would still be a Kellog brand, but ****ty instead of flakey. Point. Murphy's Law of Computer Gaming: The listed minimum specifications written on the box by the publisher are not the minimum specifications of the game set by the developer. @\NightandtheShape/@ - "Because you're a bizzare strange deranged human?" Walsingham- "Sand - always rushing around, stirring up apathy." Joseph Bulock - "Another headache, courtesy of Sand"
Xard Posted July 5, 2007 Posted July 5, 2007 But they still would be "cornflakes" How can it be a no ob build. It has PROVEN effective. I dare you to show your builds and I will tear you apart in an arugment about how these builds will won them. - OverPowered Godzilla (OPG)
Tale Posted July 5, 2007 Posted July 5, 2007 (edited) Nah. If they made the game even remotely to the style of the originals but using updated graphic techniques then I would still consider it Fallout but as it stands now, I don't. A fully 3D dynamic environment is what I want out of a modern Fallout game, but not a FPS which Fallout 3 looks to be. I'd like to point out that you really don't have any say in the matter of the game being Fallout or not. It's Fallout because the owners of the brand say it is. Whatever. So if Kellog but **** in a box and call it cornflakes, will it still be **** or cornflakes? Genius analogy. For it to be Fallout, it must be made of falling radioactive particles from a nuclear explosion. Otherwise, it's fallout in name only. Just like every other Fallout game. Edited July 5, 2007 by Tale "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater."
Sand Posted July 5, 2007 Posted July 5, 2007 Genius analogy. No its not. Murphy's Law of Computer Gaming: The listed minimum specifications written on the box by the publisher are not the minimum specifications of the game set by the developer. @\NightandtheShape/@ - "Because you're a bizzare strange deranged human?" Walsingham- "Sand - always rushing around, stirring up apathy." Joseph Bulock - "Another headache, courtesy of Sand"
Xard Posted July 5, 2007 Posted July 5, 2007 Hah! How can it be a no ob build. It has PROVEN effective. I dare you to show your builds and I will tear you apart in an arugment about how these builds will won them. - OverPowered Godzilla (OPG)
Slowtrain Posted July 5, 2007 Posted July 5, 2007 By the time FO3 is released, almost half a human generation will have passed since FO1. There's a chance that there wil be kids playing FO3 who weren't even alive when I bought my copy of Fallout back in 1996 or whenever. If someone has the expectation that a game called FO3 must in some way imitate, duplicate, replicate, or regurgitate a game that old, made by different developers, funded by a different publisher, in a different time then they need to understand that their expectations are what need to be examined because they are flawed. Notice how I can belittle your beliefs without calling you names. It's a useful skill to have particularly where you aren't allowed to call people names. It's a mistake to get too drawn in/worked up. I mean it's not life or death, it's just two guys posting their thoughts on a message board. If it were personal or face to face all the usual restraints would be in place, and we would never have reached this place in the first place. Try to remember that.
Sand Posted July 5, 2007 Posted July 5, 2007 (edited) By the time FO3 is released, almost half a human generation will have passed since FO1. There's a chance that there wil be kids playing FO3 who weren't even alive when I bought my copy of Fallout back in 1996 or whenever. If someone has the expectation that a game called FO3 must in some way imitate, duplicate, replicate, or regurgitate a game that old, made by different developers, funded by a different publisher, in a different time then they need to understand that their expectations are what need to be examined because they are flawed. That is why they shouldn't make it Fallout 3, but an original Post Apocalyptic title. The only people who would know about Fallout would be the old hardcore gamers which is obviously not the target audience of this game. Edited July 5, 2007 by Sand Murphy's Law of Computer Gaming: The listed minimum specifications written on the box by the publisher are not the minimum specifications of the game set by the developer. @\NightandtheShape/@ - "Because you're a bizzare strange deranged human?" Walsingham- "Sand - always rushing around, stirring up apathy." Joseph Bulock - "Another headache, courtesy of Sand"
Hurlshort Posted July 5, 2007 Posted July 5, 2007 But the recycling of intellectual properties is a time honored tradition in entertainment! Seriously though, for every couple of bad remakes, there is a gem. King Kong comes to mind. Video games are a fairly young medium, so the idea of recreating an older game with the polish and technology of today is still in its infancy. But I'm hoping Fallout 3 will be a gem.
Slowtrain Posted July 5, 2007 Posted July 5, 2007 By the time FO3 is released, almost half a human generation will have passed since FO1. There's a chance that there wil be kids playing FO3 who weren't even alive when I bought my copy of Fallout back in 1996 or whenever. If someone has the expectation that a game called FO3 must in some way imitate, duplicate, replicate, or regurgitate a game that old, made by different developers, funded by a different publisher, in a different time then they need to understand that their expectations are what need to be examined because they are flawed. That is why they shouldn't make it Fallout 3, but an original Post Apocalyptic title. The only people who would know about Fallout would be the old hardcore gamers which is obviously not the target audience of this game. You're fab, Sand, but discussing things with you always make me dizzy cause of all the circles we go around in. Notice how I can belittle your beliefs without calling you names. It's a useful skill to have particularly where you aren't allowed to call people names. It's a mistake to get too drawn in/worked up. I mean it's not life or death, it's just two guys posting their thoughts on a message board. If it were personal or face to face all the usual restraints would be in place, and we would never have reached this place in the first place. Try to remember that.
Dark_Raven Posted July 6, 2007 Posted July 6, 2007 Its real time with First Person view. That alone makes it not Fallout. It makes it Oblivion with guns. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed.
Llyranor Posted July 6, 2007 Posted July 6, 2007 Yes. That's exactly what Oblivion with guns would be like. Real time with first person view. Yes. (Approved by Fio, so feel free to use it)
Cantousent Posted July 6, 2007 Posted July 6, 2007 And guns Fionavar's Holliday Wishes to all members of our online community: Happy Holidays Join the revelry at the Obsidian Plays channel:Obsidian Plays Remembering tarna, Phosphor, Metadigital, and Visceris. Drink mead heartily in the halls of Valhalla, my friends!
Dark_Raven Posted July 6, 2007 Posted July 6, 2007 and sheep. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed.
Meshugger Posted July 6, 2007 Posted July 6, 2007 Exploding sheep. On nuclear catapults. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy
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