Join the CIA and torture innocent people without consequence!

[Sand]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17428735/

 

The more Bush and his cronies wage this "war" on terrorism the US gives more reasons to conduct terrorist attacks against itself.

Edited March 3, 2007 by Sand

[Tale]

Join the CIA and torture peole without consequence!

Where do I sign?

[Sand]

Here you go: https://www.cia.gov/

[Tale]

https://www.cia.gov/careers/CIAMyths.html

 

sweet, CIA personality quiz

 

I'm an Innovative Pioneer.

Edited March 3, 2007 by Tale

[Walsingham]

I'm also an innovative pioneer! Although I don't understand what kind of damn test that is.

 

Interestingly the CIA did have a project dedicated to ESP, although whether as a decoy or as a real setup is still unclear.

[Sand]

I got Thoughtful Observer.

[Xard]

I am Daring Thrill-seeker

[thepixiesrock]

Wait, why is this another reason to hate the Bush Administration? Couldn't the CIA have done this sort of thing regardless of who is the president?

[Walsingham]

Wait, why is this another reason to hate the Bush Administration? Couldn't the CIA have done this sort of thing regardless of who is the president?

 

Possibly. But wasn't it that Democrat chap before Reagan who banned dirty tricks for a while and precipitated all sorts of unpleasantness? Can't recall his name. Builds habitats for whelks or something.

[Arkan]

Carter?

[kirottu]

Wait, why is this another reason to hate the Bush Administration? Couldn't the CIA have done this sort of thing regardless of who is the president?

 

Everything is George Bush

[Gorgon]

Migth I point out that there is not a significant power anywhere which does not engage in skullduggery. Some people I guess think that we have move on from the cold war and that such practice should nolonger occur. While I agree on principle I don't see it happening any time soon. The only difference here is that the cat is out of the bag.

[Sand]

Wait, why is this another reason to hate the Bush Administration? Couldn't the CIA have done this sort of thing regardless of who is the president?

 

Everything is George Bush

[Walsingham]

Er... Sando, you know you might accord the CIA the same presumption of innocence you grant the suspect gentleman. Or is it OK to work purely from teh basis that you reckon they do that sort of thing?

[Dark_Raven]

Join the CIA and torture people without consequence! Awesome!

[Gorgon]

"Er... Sando, you know you might accord the CIA the same presumption of innocence you grant the suspect gentleman. Or is it OK to work purely from teh basis that you reckon they do that sort of thing?"

 

Why sould one extend presumption of innocence to an organisation accountable only to an oversigth comitee and not to normal standards of criminal law ?

Edited March 4, 2007 by Gorgon

[Gorth]

https://www.cia.gov/careers/CIAMyths.html

 

sweet, CIA personality quiz

 

I'm an Innovative Pioneer.

I got "Curious Adventurer"

[kirottu]

Wait, why is this another reason to hate the Bush Administration? Couldn't the CIA have done this sort of thing regardless of who is the president?

 

Everything is George Bush

[Gorgon]

The CIA fabricated the WMD evidence Bush needed as a pretext for war.

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB129/index.htm

Edited March 4, 2007 by Gorgon

[Walsingham]

The CIA fabricated the WMD evidence Bush needed as a pretext for war.

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB129/index.htm

 

We need some kind of game-show type klaxon every time someone says this. For dramatic effect.

 

I'll grant you that it makes intuitive sense to assume that poorly supervised organisations in this sort of environment are likely to be indulging in abuse. But that is no different to saying that an individual witha history of violence and criminality is more likely to have committed a violent and criminal act.

 

In any event it's interesting that you bring up the comparison with WMD. Do you not think that a brutal dictator unsupervised by ANYONE who has previously built WMD, wants WMD, and retains the industrial capabilities to produce WMD wil probably have them?

[Diamond]

https://www.cia.gov/careers/CIAMyths.html

 

sweet, CIA personality quiz

 

I'm an Innovative Pioneer.

I got "Curious Adventurer"

I've got "Impressive Mastermind".

 

 

This kind of quiz would look better in a tabloid than CIA website.

Edited March 4, 2007 by Diamond

[Gorgon]

"

In any event it's interesting that you bring up the comparison with WMD. Do you not think that a brutal dictator unsupervised by ANYONE who has previously built WMD, wants WMD, and retains the industrial capabilities to produce WMD wil probably have them?

"

 

What are you talking about ?

 

Bush and Rice use the national securtiy estimate of 2002 to bolster the contention that they did the right thing with the information they had at the time, only there were plenty of dissenting views within the intelligence community that were never presented. It's called plausible deniablilty, tell us what we want to hear and don't tell us anything it might be better we be seen not to know.

 

It's a proven fact that Sadam didn't have any WMD but was engaging in a game of high stakes bluff, so I take it you mean Iran ?

Edited March 4, 2007 by Gorgon

[jaguars4ever]

Impressive Mastermind.

 

 

 

"Excellent."

[taks]

Wait, why is this another reason to hate the Bush Administration? Couldn't the CIA have done this sort of thing regardless of who is the president?

what sand doesn't seem to understand is that the CIA has always done this. of course, he just needs a reason to dislike bush even more. pathetic.

 

sometimes, btw, they simply hand suspects over to some middle eastern government for the torture, which is much worse.

 

taks

[taks]

It's a proven fact that Sadam didn't have any WMD but was engaging in a game of high stakes bluff, so I take it you mean Iran ?

actually you can't use the words "proven fact" as there is strong evidence he had something (they don't know what), and shipped it out during the dead period before the war, probably to syria.

 

taks