151 'Empire Strikes Back' changes

[Fionavar]

StarWars.com

 

I thought this might of interest for some. Pretty helpful comparison.

[DeathScepter]

that is cool.

[CoM_Solaufein]

Nice comparison on how it looked when it was first released and now after being redone.

[MasterJediConsular]

I could do something similar if I fiddled with the contrast settings on my tv :D

In all honesty though, it's a very notcable inmprovement.

Although I wish they hadn't changed so much within the story when they remastered them though. I'd like to get a copy of the pre-remastered movies on DVD, but I don't think they ever did it. I still have the copies on VHS, but they're from like 92 or something so they're rather degraded. (I only taped them)

[Sionn]

kewl

[Dark_Raven]

Classics are best left in their original state.

[Laozi]

Still not as good as my laserdisc version :cool:

Edited September 5, 2006 by Laozi

[LadyCrimson]

He went a bit overboard on the blue-side of the grey color balance in many of those shots, or whatever you want to call it, imo.

 

But yeah, cleaning up the picture to make colors more vibrant etc. I don't typically mind. Old film/negative starts to degrade, spiffing it up and preserving it etc. is par for the course. It's just the added footage, changing of footage, and all of that I can't stand.

[Dark Wastl]

I could do something similar if I fiddled with the contrast settings on my tv :D

In all honesty though, it's a very notcable inmprovement.

Although I wish they hadn't changed so much within the story when they remastered them though. I'd like to get a copy of the pre-remastered movies on DVD, but I don't think they ever did it. I still have the copies on VHS, but they're from like 92 or something so they're rather degraded. (I only taped them)

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

The current DVD-release has the laserdisc-version as bonus. So while they are not completely unchanged, they are on the level of 1993.

They are only available until Christmas or something like that, so if you want the pre-special edition movies, you should look at these DVDs, as they won't be released with next years 6-movie-box or any further DVD-release afterwards.

[Sturm]

Pretty good ammendments it made it look a bit brighter, but I reckon that the lightsaber when Luke is in this Wampa cave looks better then the 2004 one. I think I have the 1989 version on my old videos.

[Calax]

I could do something similar if I fiddled with the contrast settings on my tv :D

In all honesty though, it's a very notcable inmprovement.

Although I wish they hadn't changed so much within the story when they remastered them though. I'd like to get a copy of the pre-remastered movies on DVD, but I don't think they ever did it. I still have the copies on VHS, but they're from like 92 or something so they're rather degraded. (I only taped them)

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

the ORIGIONAL THEATRICAL RELEASE cut of the films will be out on septeber 12.

[Dark_Raven]

Go, go original release.

[WinterSun]

I hear Greedo still shoots first in this version. I'm hoping this isn't true.

[Surreptishus]

I heard it is the original version. Complete with Stereo sound! Now filmed in Technicolor )

[Dark_Raven]

Awesomeness

[DAWUSS]

Digitally restored or will it be all grainy and possess the appearance of being stuck in a closet for over 20 years?

[Calax]

Digitally restored or will it be all grainy and possess the appearance of being stuck in a closet for over 20 years?

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

probably restored like they did for the twenty year anniversary... (The star wars trilogy on vhs ONE LAST TIME!) right before Phantom menace.

[Pop]

Digitally restored or will it be all grainy and possess the appearance of being stuck in a closet for over 20 years?

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

The latter. It's either all editing or no editing.

 

You have to understand, George Lucas is only doing this to appease those who can't seem to realize what a visionary he is. To edit them without changing them would be admitting that they were better as they were, before Lucas made them his through revision.

 

"In response to overwhelming demand, Lucasfilm Ltd. and Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment will release attractively priced individual two-disc releases of Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi. Each release includes the 2004 digitally remastered version of the movie and, as bonus material, the theatrical edition of the film. That means you'll be able to enjoy Star Wars as it first appeared in 1977, Empire in 1980, and Jedi in 1983."

 

So you'll get the revised, polished edition and the untouched original.

 

Honestly though, I'm just going to hand him more cash for this. Maybe if I give him enough he won't butcher Indy 4.

Edited September 10, 2006 by Pop

[Surreptishus]

Lucas is just releasing these versions becasue he has realised that the hardcore fans are chumps. :D

 

There was a preview on AICn a while ago that confirmed these versions are untouched. I wasn't joking about the stereophonic sound and technicolor.

[GhostofAnakin]

In some of those instances, I prefer the 1980 version.

 

Go figure.

[MasterJediConsular]

Great news. Took their time. You're sure though, that they aren't going to release it in 10 minute intervals of footage monthly, for the next 5 years or so? :D

Edited September 11, 2006 by MasterJediConsular

[DAWUSS]

George should edit the prequels

[Silvershadow]

George should edit the prequels

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

By removing Hayden Christensen and putting in someone who can act instead? I'd be all over that.

 

Granted, no amount of good acting could make up for the dialogue in episode III.

 

I picked up my DVDs after work today. Does that make me a chump? Perhaps... But I'm a happy chump who'll get to see Han shoot first. :D

[CoM_Solaufein]

If Lucas edits the prequels, he needs to add in the content that were cut out.

[Nartwak]

I hear Greedo still shoots first in this version. I'm hoping this isn't true.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Han Solo doesn't even have a blaster. Greedo's shot ricochets off Solo's belt buckle.