June 8, 200619 yr Its been a while since i've been here so this may have already come up but anyway. I'm doing paper for my english class over weather or not video games are art.
June 8, 200619 yr I had this huge post filled with links and informative quotes, attached vids, pics and graphics that all resulted in one very simple answer that anyone can understand without any shred of doubt: Yes. http://entertainmentandbeyond.blogspot.com/
June 8, 200619 yr There are artistic aspects in the development process but 99.9% of every game released has been for the purpouse of entertainment. and as a sidenote: I study computer game design and graphics and its strange that the english does not differentiate between an artist(picasso) and an artist(someone who produces graphics for a computer game). Game CGI is about illustrating the visions of the designers, not to create a work of art. DISCLAIMER: Do not take what I write seriously unless it is clearly and in no uncertain terms, declared by me to be meant in a serious and non-humoristic manner. If there is no clear indication, asume the post is written in jest. This notification is meant very seriously and its purpouse is to avoid misunderstandings and the consequences thereof. Furthermore; I can not be held accountable for anything I write on these forums since the idea of taking serious responsability for my unserious actions, is an oxymoron in itself. Important: as the following sentence contains many naughty words I warn you not to read it under any circumstances; botty, knickers, wee, erogenous zone, psychiatrist, clitoris, stockings, bosom, poetry reading, dentist, fellatio and the department of agriculture. "I suppose outright stupidity and complete lack of taste could also be considered points of view. "
June 8, 200619 yr They are an art, when I play them!! :D "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian tourist I am Dan Quayle of the Romans. I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands. Heja Sverige!! Everyone should cuffawkle more. The wrench is your friend.
June 8, 200619 yr They're rarely if ever great art, but I think they have the potential to be. I don't agree with Roger Ebert that having player control means the medium is fundamentally flawed and cannot achieve the status he feels movies have. It's possible that a single game playthrough could be a work of art, as a collaboration between designer and player, without the game itself being a work of art. There was a long and interesting thread about this in the Computers and Consoles forum from months ago, in which you'll find many arguments more coherent than mine. :D "An electric puddle is not what I need right now." (Nina Kalenkov)
June 8, 200619 yr There are artistic aspects in the development process but 99.9% of every game released has been for the purpouse of entertainment. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> who says art can't be entertainment? it's still a "painting" of sorts when you make graphics.. at least imho.. Fortune favors the bald.
June 8, 200619 yr Art is what happens when an artist lets himself loose on a canvas, lump of clay or sheet of paper. When youre making game graphics, you work entirely with someone elses ideas and your work is constantly checked and corrected. The primary function of a Lead artist is to ensure that every piece of graphics for a game has the same look and style. And in that climate, its not possible for the kind of individualistic expression that true art requires. Also, a game is a very very compromised medium where a single genius will find it impossible to achieve something that is even close to his original medium. And art must never ever compromise. DISCLAIMER: Do not take what I write seriously unless it is clearly and in no uncertain terms, declared by me to be meant in a serious and non-humoristic manner. If there is no clear indication, asume the post is written in jest. This notification is meant very seriously and its purpouse is to avoid misunderstandings and the consequences thereof. Furthermore; I can not be held accountable for anything I write on these forums since the idea of taking serious responsability for my unserious actions, is an oxymoron in itself. Important: as the following sentence contains many naughty words I warn you not to read it under any circumstances; botty, knickers, wee, erogenous zone, psychiatrist, clitoris, stockings, bosom, poetry reading, dentist, fellatio and the department of agriculture. "I suppose outright stupidity and complete lack of taste could also be considered points of view. "
June 8, 200619 yr I think it's art. That's all I need. Likewise, a lot of modern art falls in Kaftan's description, and I don't consider that art at all. Besides, most of the art you find in a museum was, ultimately, done on comission. If that isn't compromising, I don't know what is. Look at it this way - if it wasn't art, why do you have a lead ARTist? Edited June 8, 200619 yr by TrueNeutral
June 8, 200619 yr I don't like the "craftsman vs. artisan" debate, because I believe both painting a canvas and upholstering furniture can be considered art - if the creator is skilled and takes great care in his/her work. baby, take off your beret everyone's a critic and most people are DJs
June 8, 200619 yr By the way, a game isn't just graphics. A game is written, there are dialogs(usually), music, lighting, colors, etc. It doesn't matter if someone called an "artist" actually only implements elements, the concepts, the ideas, the visions all came from someone. http://entertainmentandbeyond.blogspot.com/
June 8, 200619 yr Ha Ha. I want the thread starter's definition of art. Out of curiosity really. Art is subjective. I for one consider my phallus to be nature's most beautiful artwork. Suppose. Greatness lies in the details. Art in the soul. Edited June 8, 200619 yr by Baley
June 8, 200619 yr Art is what happens when an artist lets himself loose on a canvas, lump of clay or sheet of paper. When youre making game graphics, you work entirely with someone elses ideas and your work is constantly checked and corrected. The primary function of a Lead artist is to ensure that every piece of graphics for a game has the same look and style. And in that climate, its not possible for the kind of individualistic expression that true art requires. Then how can people claim that movies are art?
June 8, 200619 yr Because those who claim that are WRONG. Edited June 8, 200619 yr by Volourn DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
June 8, 200619 yr I guess books and music aren't art either then. Oh well. " http://entertainmentandbeyond.blogspot.com/
June 8, 200619 yr Because those who claim that are WRONG. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> At the risk of pissing off ol' Gromnir.... What is art Volo?
June 8, 200619 yr I am art. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> On the plus side, I'm working from home today and can squeeze in one minute turns to shatter you and your art!
June 8, 200619 yr Art is what happens when an artist lets himself loose on a canvas, lump of clay or sheet of paper. When youre making game graphics, you work entirely with someone elses ideas and your work is constantly checked and corrected. The primary function of a Lead artist is to ensure that every piece of graphics for a game has the same look and style. And in that climate, its not possible for the kind of individualistic expression that true art requires. Then how can people claim that movies are art? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Most films are purely entertainment, but in film a small number of extremely driven people have succeeded in bending the medium to their will and create films which are works of art. The whole "auteur" thing and that. DISCLAIMER: Do not take what I write seriously unless it is clearly and in no uncertain terms, declared by me to be meant in a serious and non-humoristic manner. If there is no clear indication, asume the post is written in jest. This notification is meant very seriously and its purpouse is to avoid misunderstandings and the consequences thereof. Furthermore; I can not be held accountable for anything I write on these forums since the idea of taking serious responsability for my unserious actions, is an oxymoron in itself. Important: as the following sentence contains many naughty words I warn you not to read it under any circumstances; botty, knickers, wee, erogenous zone, psychiatrist, clitoris, stockings, bosom, poetry reading, dentist, fellatio and the department of agriculture. "I suppose outright stupidity and complete lack of taste could also be considered points of view. "
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