Darth_Onivega Posted April 1, 2006 Share Posted April 1, 2006 Once you have beaten Kreia she says "You are greater than any I have ever trained" and do to that fact she didnt exclude Revan does that mean...That the Exile is greater than Revan himself??? in not saying that the Exile or Revan is better though hi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Hades Posted April 1, 2006 Share Posted April 1, 2006 Interpretation may matter. Greater doesn't mean stronger or better, could mean just in understanding her teachings to the best and completing the Dark side ritual of apprentice kills master (which is what Kreia really wants to happen), or his ability to destroy the force. If only we knew more about Revan...all we know really is that as a Jedi he was ambitious and headstrong, went to war, was "corrupted" by something (Star Forge, maybe or not) and became Sith Lord who was graceful with the Force as opposed to arrogant. Kreia gave some insight into Revan if you had the influence, but even then it was not enough info to make the comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAWUSS Posted April 1, 2006 Share Posted April 1, 2006 Well the Exile has more force powers than Revan... Who knows she might be greater than him DAWUSS Dawes ain't too bright. Hitting rock bottom is when you leave 2 tickets on the dash of your car, leave it unlocked hoping someone will steal them & when you come back, there are 4 tickets on your dashboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturm Posted April 1, 2006 Share Posted April 1, 2006 the compilations of both revan and the exile are hard to explain, they both werent ordinary jedi/sith they where a completely different breed. the exile, at first, was a force user of average ability. he demonstrated an unusual ability to easily form connections with others, forming bonds through the force that allowed him to leech off of his followers, though he was largely unaware of this ability. after reconnecting with the force, the ability became even stronger. he was able to gain greater power through all the deaths he caused, a result of his being a "wound" in the force, but again he was largely unaware of it. the exile was one of only three known Force users to voluntarily sever himself from the force this is part of wookiepedia "At some point during the war, Revan was scouting for bases along the Outer Rim when he learned of Malachor V, a planet that the Mandalorians were Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabrielle Posted April 2, 2006 Share Posted April 2, 2006 Well when someone is refered to as the death of the Force, they certainly can't be all that weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturm Posted April 2, 2006 Share Posted April 2, 2006 just visions of what the exile saw where in the cave, and your probabally thinking now "but the exile never saw revan" wrong, revan was the exiles and the other jedis general as he led them into the mandalorian wars, and when the exile says (in the cave to revan) "so this is where you have been all this time" the exile doesnt realise its just a vision of when he has seen revan before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthReliguim Posted April 2, 2006 Share Posted April 2, 2006 i'd said they're about equal but in my games the exile was way more powerful than Revan. I wish that hssiss thing was back in the first game so my Revan could became stronger. Level 20 just didn't seem powerful enough, but level 42 did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturm Posted April 3, 2006 Share Posted April 3, 2006 if kotor1 had the stuff like kotor1, like more moves, more feats + force powers and a larger level up along with prestiges (LS & DS) im sure you would change your mind, and say that revan was stronger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xard Posted April 3, 2006 Share Posted April 3, 2006 Exactly, well said Revan They are quite equal, but Revan is lil' bit more How can it be a no ob build. It has PROVEN effective. I dare you to show your builds and I will tear you apart in an arugment about how these builds will won them. - OverPowered Godzilla (OPG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HK-47_THE_MEATBAG_KILLER Posted April 3, 2006 Share Posted April 3, 2006 i think it is difficult to compare them. they each had their own strenths and weaknesses, it is just a matter of using their strengths and compensating for their weaknesses. so each may be stronger the other in their own areas, but it is hard to say who is stronger in general. if i had to make a choice, though, i would say revan. she was able to exploit other's weaknesses quite well, and she excelled at manipulation of people, and at military tactics. And in my game, she reclaimed her mantel of Dark Lord and ruled the sith again. "Are you an angel? Aw, I'm just kidding. That's the worst line I've ever used. Hope some poor kid doesn't start using it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthReliguim Posted April 3, 2006 Share Posted April 3, 2006 if kotor1 had the stuff like kotor1, like more moves, more feats + force powers and a larger level up along with prestiges (LS & DS) im sure you would change your mind, and say that revan was stronger <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Blowing up planets might help too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAWUSS Posted April 3, 2006 Share Posted April 3, 2006 I just got an idea: A K1 and K2 highlight montage clip set to M.C. Hammer's "Can't Touch This" and periodically you see HK-47 (or maybe Jolee Bindo [i think HK-47 would be funnier]) behind a mic with various characters behind him dancing to the music. Properly expresses the status of the two. That would be the video of the year DAWUSS Dawes ain't too bright. Hitting rock bottom is when you leave 2 tickets on the dash of your car, leave it unlocked hoping someone will steal them & when you come back, there are 4 tickets on your dashboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Blivion Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 The Exile could well be greater as far as what he's accomplished in a kotor context. Though I don't care about their powers, they should be about equal, maybe a slight edge to the Exile because of his bonding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyan Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Kreia is a liar - or at least "misguided"/"misguides the truth". It's a proven fact. Why believe this any more than anything else she says? HK47: Commentary: It is not possible to destroy the master. It is suggested that you run while my blasters warm, meatbags. Bastila to Revan: You are easily the vainest, most arrogant man I have ever met! Canderous to Bastila: Insults? Maybe if your master had trained your lightsaber to be as quick as your tongue you could have escaped those Vulkars, you spoiled little Jedi princess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Lord Shawn Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 (edited) no the exile could never be greater then revan. Because revan is the coolest sith lord ever. Edited April 4, 2006 by Dark Lord Shawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Blivion Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Vader's the coolest Sith Lord ever; Revan has a few fans on message boards. The Exile could be greater than Revan, let's see where the series goes. But from what we've seen with the two kotors, there is a good argument for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowPaladin V1.0 Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 The Exile is more difficult to pin down since they lack a fixed identity. But in gameplay clearly more powerful than Revan. I have to agree with Volourn. Bioware is pretty much dead now. Deals like this kills development studios. 478327[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Lord Shawn Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Vader is nothing more then half man half machine clearly he is not the coolest sith lord. Now on the other hand revan is not a machine and like kreia said revan had many teachers. How many teachers did the exile have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturm Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 exactly, revan FTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAWUSS Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Vader is nothing more then half man half machine clearly he is not the coolest sith lord. Now on the other hand revan is not a machine and like kreia said revan had many teachers. How many teachers did the exile have? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yet Revan gets memory wipes just like a droid... Hmmmm DAWUSS Dawes ain't too bright. Hitting rock bottom is when you leave 2 tickets on the dash of your car, leave it unlocked hoping someone will steal them & when you come back, there are 4 tickets on your dashboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturm Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 "the force works in many different ways, it can even erase the mind of an enemy" im sure the jedi/sith of the EP 3 time period never gave vader the change to wipe his mind, prob cos they suck and forgot how Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Lord Shawn Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 I think the jedis that came onboard revan's ship won't have took revan captured he would have killed them. If you could remember malak is the one who fired at revan's ship and made the jedis capture him. Then bastila used the force to erase his mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xard Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 No, Jedi Master's erased his mind. How can it be a no ob build. It has PROVEN effective. I dare you to show your builds and I will tear you apart in an arugment about how these builds will won them. - OverPowered Godzilla (OPG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulgarian Jedi Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Malak betrayed Revan by shooting at the bridge of Revan's ship, trying to kill both his master and jedi onboard. Malak failed to kill Revan because Bastila saved the sith lord's life (and thus creating a bond between the two). Still, Revan was heavily wounded, physiacally and also, in my opinion, mentaly. Bastila brought Revan to the jedi counci. As wounded he/she was, the council decided to to give the Sith lord new identity and use his/her knowledge against the Sith. Also "Jedi do not believe in killing their prisoners" and this is another reason for sparing Revan's life. K2 "blurrs" this concept from the first game because Kreia said several times that evan never thruly fall to the DArk Side, becoming a Sith Lord was needed to protct the galaxy from a geater evil, etc. So, believe in what you wish. Нека Силата винаги бъде с теб! I reject your reality, and substitute it with my own. Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted. John Lenon This thread is a big "hey, f*** you!" to the humanity's intelligence. 571911[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAWUSS Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Next question is: How did Kreia and the Exile get their bond? They really didn't save each other's lives... DAWUSS Dawes ain't too bright. Hitting rock bottom is when you leave 2 tickets on the dash of your car, leave it unlocked hoping someone will steal them & when you come back, there are 4 tickets on your dashboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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