ShadowPaladin V1.0 Posted March 14, 2006 Posted March 14, 2006 If anything, I imagine that just means all three games will be delivered using the same technology. That means they can release three games in three years (although that may rush production, like KotOR 2.) Anyone else notice that the Guild Wars expansion is priced at $50? I guess that's the drawback to no monthly fees. Of course, that's still cheaper if you compare a year of WoW to bothe GW games. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Might end up looking dated. Although there isnt really the sort of room for drastic improvements in visuals anyway so perhaps not. You still have to pay for MMPORG expansions so it's not that bad considering it's free to play. I have to agree with Volourn. Bioware is pretty much dead now. Deals like this kills development studios. 478327[/snapback]
Hurlshort Posted March 14, 2006 Posted March 14, 2006 As I said, GW is still much cheaper either way. EQ is the real con artist in my eyes. They release expansions like crazy, charge for features that most games offer for free, and don't add all that much content in their updates. Asherons Call had a much better system, releasing monthly content for free and only giving expansions for major changes, like housing. WoW seems to be following that model more closely, as the expansion adds areas and new races, as well as mounts.
alanschu Posted March 14, 2006 Posted March 14, 2006 For better or worse, Blizzard hasn't seemed to be milking the expansion craze. The one expansion they have in the works is still quite a ways away.
Dhruin Posted March 14, 2006 Posted March 14, 2006 Anyone else notice that the Guild Wars expansion is priced at $50? I guess that's the drawback to no monthly fees. Of course, that's still cheaper if you compare a year of WoW to bothe GW games. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Technically, that would be because it isn't an expansion - it's a free standing game. You don't need GW to play it at all.
alanschu Posted March 15, 2006 Posted March 15, 2006 How very unlike them <{POST_SNAPBACK}> They actually haven't really had many expansions for their games at all. Well, they do tend to have one. So I guess that is quite a few, considering many games don't get expansions.
Lyric Suite Posted March 15, 2006 Posted March 15, 2006 Does anybody knows that Guild Wars is not a MMORPG? Just wondering...
Hurlshort Posted March 15, 2006 Posted March 15, 2006 Guild Wars is in the gray area of MMORPG's. What are you referring to specifically? There are massive amounts of people online in Guild Wars, but only in designated, non-combat areas. By that, DDO wouldn't be a MMORPG either. Is it because it's free? Plenty of games have marketed themselves as free MMORPG's.
Lyric Suite Posted March 15, 2006 Posted March 15, 2006 (edited) Guild Wars is in the gray area of MMORPG's. What are you referring to specifically? There are massive amounts of people online in Guild Wars, but only in designated, non-combat areas. By that, DDO wouldn't be a MMORPG either. Is it because it's free? Plenty of games have marketed themselves as free MMORPG's. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Guild Wars does not offer a persistent world, which is where the 'massive' element of the genre comes into play. This is the reason GW is free, because it doesn't have persistent servers to maintain, which is how companies justify the fee in the first place (among other things). Guild Wars it's nothing but a party based, 3d version of diablo, and the non-combat areas are nothing but Battle.net with graphics. Edited March 15, 2006 by Lyric Suite
Hurlshort Posted March 15, 2006 Posted March 15, 2006 So would you say the same thing about Dungeons and Dragons Online? Come to think of it, Everquest also separates zones into instances when they get too crowded. I believe the limit is somewhere near 100 per zone. It also does have a persistent server...but it's just built like a graphic chat room. I actually do agree with you, but I'm just trying to point out the many gray areas in MMORPG's.
ShadowPaladin V1.0 Posted March 15, 2006 Posted March 15, 2006 It just fits better under MMPORG than anywhere else. I have to agree with Volourn. Bioware is pretty much dead now. Deals like this kills development studios. 478327[/snapback]
alanschu Posted March 15, 2006 Posted March 15, 2006 I think this argument is as silly as the "Diablo isn't an RPG" arguments. Mostly to the point of 'Who cares?"
Volourn Posted March 15, 2006 Posted March 15, 2006 Those who argue about it obviously do. Duh. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
Meshugger Posted March 15, 2006 Posted March 15, 2006 George Bush doesn't care about......meh, nevermind. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy
Lyric Suite Posted March 15, 2006 Posted March 15, 2006 I think this argument is as silly as the "Diablo isn't an RPG" arguments. Mostly to the point of 'Who cares?" <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Maybe i need to explain myself better. People argue they don't like MMORPGs because of the fee. Companies justify the fee because of dedicated, persistent servers. Persistent servers is the 'massive' element of the genre. Guild Wars doesn't have any dedicated servers, but people praise it for the lack of fee compared to other MMORPGs. Can anybody tell me what's wrong with this picture?
alanschu Posted March 15, 2006 Posted March 15, 2006 No dedicated servers for Guild Wars? What exactly are we running on while playing the game then?
Judge Hades Posted March 16, 2006 Posted March 16, 2006 (edited) Instance driven adventures that are set up on the client side computers connected to network of individual systems. Just a guess. Edited March 16, 2006 by Judge Hades
Gabrielle Posted March 16, 2006 Posted March 16, 2006 I think this argument is as silly as the "Diablo isn't an RPG" arguments. Mostly to the point of 'Who cares?" <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It does devolve to that point of not caring in the end, but I like putting in the good fight and make my opinion be known.
Gabrielle Posted March 16, 2006 Posted March 16, 2006 Don't we all know! I am the same way. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Don't we know it. :ph34r:
Judge Hades Posted March 16, 2006 Posted March 16, 2006 So, any other information about this Bioware MMORPG?
Lyric Suite Posted March 16, 2006 Posted March 16, 2006 So, any other information about this Bioware MMORPG? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Aside the fact MMORPGs suck? Nothing i guess...
mkreku Posted March 16, 2006 Posted March 16, 2006 I'm betting it will have a monthly fee! Swedes, go to: Spel2, for the latest game reviews in swedish!
Volourn Posted March 16, 2006 Posted March 16, 2006 I bet it's MULTIPLAYER! DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
Judge Hades Posted March 16, 2006 Posted March 16, 2006 Well, I don't see it following the Bethesda route with Morrowind. The best Single Player MMORPG 3vAR!
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