mkreku Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 "Our game just keeps getting moved back... And back... And back. Again, where is the box? Where is the final system? When is it coming out? No one knows and in the mean time people in the industry are starting to get just a little salty." But the comments most likely to have riled Sony executives were to do with the PS3's technical capabilities versus those of the Xbox 360: "I Swedes, go to: Spel2, for the latest game reviews in swedish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_i_am Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 'Robinson said he received four or five job offers immediately after leaving Sony, and even got a book deal as a result of the article.' I feel so bad for him (Approved by Fio, so feel free to use it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astr0creep Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 (edited) All I care about are the games. Which ever system has more of the better ones will get my $$$. The 360 had recalls after 2 weeks of its release. And it's basically a graphics enhancer for 500$. And Xbox Live isn't free for that price? No thank you. For now. Edited February 6, 2006 by astr0creep http://entertainmentandbeyond.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancer Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 (edited) All I care about are the games. Which ever system has more of the better ones will get my $$$. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Right on. The SNES was a technically superior system than the Genesis (graphically, although the Genny had the much faster processor) yet the Genesis had arguably the better games and many more quality PC-style RPGs Sega Saturn was technically superior to PS1, but PS1 kicked its butt. What *I* care about is which of these two systems will have a good collection of PC-style RPGs? Edited February 6, 2006 by Lancer Lancer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BattleCookiee Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 The 360 had recalls after 2 weeks of its release. And it's basically a graphics enhancer for 500$. And Xbox Live isn't free for that price? No thank you. For now. Going to be the same for PS3. For just twice (or less) the cash you have a PC (with better specs), where you can also do "other" things on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astr0creep Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 The 360 had recalls after 2 weeks of its release. And it's basically a graphics enhancer for 500$. And Xbox Live isn't free for that price? No thank you. For now. Going to be the same for PS3. For just twice (or less) the cash you have a PC (with better specs), where you can also do "other" things on... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Meh. I don't care about power. They could release another Atari 2600 for all I care. if the system has more better games, it will get my $$$. Oh and the PC can be upgraded, not a console. So comparing a console to a PC is a waste of postings. The console market FOLLOWS the PC's current standard specs. If your standard PC bundle at, say, Best Buy, is a P4 3ghz 1Gb RAM machine, that's what a new generation console will have(more or less) under the hood... for the next 5 years during which the PC will substantially evolve into something 20 times more powerful. I have no doubt there will recalls for the PS3, thats why the wise ones should wait about a year before buying it, just like a new car model. Give them time to work out the glitches. http://entertainmentandbeyond.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 I don't care. I'll buy the console with the best library of games. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.E. Sawyer Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 If Sony wants to project an image of being more developer-friendly, it might help to actually support 1st party developers. twitter tyme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 If Sony wants to project an image of being more developer-friendly, it might help to actually support 1st party developers. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> IIRC, they have become more developer-friendly with incorporating OpenGL ES to their devkits. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BattleCookiee Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 If Sony wants to project an image of being more developer-friendly, it might help to actually support 1st party developers. IIRC, they have become more developer-friendly with incorporating OpenGL ES to their devkits. I thought they became dev-friendlier because the use of the easy to use U3-Engine editor (both MS and Sony have made a deal to have alot of their consoles' games running on it). But so does the X-Box 360, so it makes no difference... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlternaFurkle Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 If I ever manage to get a hold on any of the consoles, I would probably go for the 360. For me, it has the best choice of games. Specs are irrellevant (did I spell that right?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haitoku Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 The SNES was a technically superior system than the Genesis (graphically, although the Genny had the much faster processor) yet the Genesis had arguably the better games and many more quality PC-style RPGs Nope. You simply like it because it had more PC-Style RPGs, I think most people would agree that the SNES was the king of the 16bit generation. I agree with your point though. All I care about are the games. Which ever system has more of the better ones will get my $$$. I'm with you on this. I know this might sound like a fanboy statement. But PS3 has already got my money. I'm looking at the Xbox 360 line-up and all I see are a few titles that just might be interesting, however, all those titles are going to be on PC as well and since I already have the superior machine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astr0creep Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 The SNES was a technically superior system than the Genesis (graphically, although the Genny had the much faster processor) yet the Genesis had arguably the better games and many more quality PC-style RPGs Nope. You simply like it because it had more PC-Style RPGs, I think most people would agree that the SNES was the king of the 16bit generation. I agree with your point though. All I care about are the games. Which ever system has more of the better ones will get my $$$. I'm with you on this. I know this might sound like a fanboy statement. But PS3 has already got my money. I'm looking at the Xbox 360 line-up and all I see are a few titles that just might be interesting, however, all those titles are going to be on PC as well and since I already have the superior machine... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That is single most important reason why I never baught the Xbox. Its games eventually come to PC. All the better ones anyway. http://entertainmentandbeyond.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darque Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 All I care about are the games. Which ever system has more of the better ones will get my $$$. The 360 had recalls after 2 weeks of its release. And it's basically a graphics enhancer for 500$. And Xbox Live isn't free for that price? No thank you. For now. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 The XBox 360 got RAVE review in the UK Christmas issue of PC Format (yes, a console got rave reviews in a PC magazine) because of M$ now-revealed big-hands-on-little-maps strategy. Their view is, basically, screw the XBox 360 versus PS3 debate: the XBox 360 is a perfect PVR platform to link into the wired home of the future. It runs Windows Media Centre Edition and plugs seamlessly into a Windows network to manage all audio- and video-on-demand functions for the third millennium house. That's the big picture. The PS3 is trying to leapfrog the M$ strategy like they did with the original PS when they instigated the compact disc revolution. We live in interesting times. OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterSun Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 The more I see of the next-gen consoles the more I think "must upgrade PC". They're more useful anyway. master of my domain Pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 I have heard that the PS3 is indeed pretty powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 "'Robinson said he received four or five job offers immediately after leaving Sony, and even got a book deal as a result of the article.' I feel so bad for him" Haha. :D I'm with everyone. I'm into wahtever has the best games. PS2 had games I wanted like FF. X-BOX 360 is the console I'm most likely to buy now as it'll have both BIO, and Obsidian RPG (action or otherwise) on it which gives it a leg up on the PS3. Nintendo has basically been dead to me since the Super Nintendo days when I grew out of Mario. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 I skimmed through the Edge (not sure about their biases) article "PS3 versus the world" and the off-the-record industry source pointed out a pretty obvious conclusion that the game developers would develop games for the next generation in the same ratio as they are currently (50% PS2, 30% Xbox & 20% Ninty). I'm not vouchsafing their editorial independence, but the point made seems pretty commonsensical. OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 The recruitment guys from EA said they suspect the PS3 to be #1 again when they came to my University. They didn't mention a percentage though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowstrider Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 I'm sticking with 360 on this. The 360 is much more developer friendly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 I don't know enough about either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Well, from a business point of view, the market forecasts are generated from pst performance. Therefore it makes perfect sense that the first releases for each platform would be in keeping with the current market segmentation (for each company itmight differ slightly, and I have no idea what the overall percentages are). This doesn't figure any large incentives made by either camp in the initial marketing putsch of a new hardware generation, though. I wonder how much Sony and M$ are prepared to pork-barrel ... OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Given your command of the English language, I have a feeling 'putsch' was pretty deliberate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Moth Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 (edited) "putsch" is German. Meanwhile, the 360 is hurting now, not from poor sales but from the supply not meeting the demand. A new factory is supposed to open, but not until later this year. BTW, maybe I'm stating the obvious, but I have a feeling Epiphany was a plant from Microsoft. " Edited February 6, 2006 by Mothman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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