Xbox360 Japanese launch

[Judge Hades]

Good for him.  I still don't know why people are getting so hung up about X Box 1.5.  Overall the system is not all that great, the games aren't that much better, and it has more problems than it is worth.  I still don't see any reason to buy it.

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I don't know whether I will get an Xbox 360 or not but if KOTOR III comes out as an Xbox 360-exclusive, I will buy the platform for that one title. Yes, I will admit that.

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Its that type of attidue that is killing the PC market.

[Laozi]

Its that type of attidue that is killing the PC market.

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Its probaly more like pretentious PC snobs are killing the PC market.

[Kaftan Barlast]

No, Hades is completely right. M$ and SONY are spending(and losing) money to keep developers from making games for the PC in order to strengthen the console market. And if you as a customer purchase a console to be able to play those games, youve just proven that it works and that will cause them to continue to undermine PC gaming.

 

 

 

Now, Nintendo on the other hand have got it right but kind of wrong; PC users being able to purchase a "nintendo card" that allows them to play console games on the PC and that would be cheaper than buying a stand-alone console.

Edited December 13, 2005 by Kaftan Barlast

[ShadowPaladin V1.0]

Now, Nintendo on the other hand have got it right but kind of wrong; PC users being able to purchase a "nintendo card" that allows them to play console games on the PC and that would be cheaper than buying a stand-alone console.

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What exactly have Sony stolen ? I know they nabbed nintendo stuff but I cant think of anything that was supposed to be on the PC.

 

Since Nintendo sell their hardware at a profit and your idea kind of contradicts what a console is for in the first place don't see that happening somehow.

 

Oh course if you selfishly want to hog all games for the PC , then that makes you no better than MS does it.

[karka]

Actually, hardware manufacturers are not innocent too. You can buy a next gen. (or two revos) console with the prize of a good graphics card.

Edited December 13, 2005 by karka

[ShadowPaladin V1.0]

Actually, hardware manufacturers are not innocent too. You can buy a next gen. console with the prize of a good graphics card.

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Well Kaftan dosnt like consoles. But kind of overlooks the main reason for their popularity.

 

1. It will play games much better than a PC of the same price.

2. Games will 99% of the time work out of the box with no effort. If something dosnt work then you swap it. No messing about with drivers and having to track down just why something wont work.

 

Those two things make them very appealing to the average consumer, as well as to people like me who are fed up jumping through hoops and patching things left and right just to get a game to work. Thats not counting the

[Calax]

Actually, hardware manufacturers are not innocent too. You can buy a next gen. console with the prize of a good graphics card.

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Well Kaftan dosnt like consoles. But kind of overlooks the main reason for their popularity.

 

1. It will play games much better than a PC of the same price.

2. Games will 99% of the time work out of the box with no effort. If something dosnt work then you swap it. No messing about with drivers and having to track down just why something wont work.

 

Those two things make them very appealing to the average consumer, as well as to people like me who are fed up jumping through hoops and patching things left and right just to get a game to work. Thats not counting the

[Cantousent]

Well, aside from Kaftan's uncanny knack finding blame, there might not be any problem with PC gaming. After all, have the sales for PC games gone down significantly or have the sales for console games increased? My reason for asking is this: if PC games have increased slowly while console games have increased rapidly, then it might just be a reflection of two different markets. Perhaps PC gaming isn't on the way out so much as it is in the process of being dwarfed by consoles. That's not necessarily bad as long as enough good games come to the PC. Frankly, I've always thought PC gaming was a niche market anyhow.

 

Sure, pretentious snobs who think they have all the answers will rail against the console market, but they're probably just passing judgment on anyone who doesn't have the same tastes, ideas, or beliefs. It might be contemptible, but it's nothing new. I'm sure both the console and PC markets can live through the experience.

[mkreku]

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=62132

 

The price drop had nothing to do with the Xbox 360's popularity.

[Meshugger]

I like the last comment in the last paragraph :D

[ShadowPaladin V1.0]

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=62132

 

The price drop had nothing to do with the Xbox 360's popularity.

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It does indirectly.

[mkreku]

No, unless buying a cell phone for 1 SEK with a long term contract is also an indication that cell phones are unpopular. They're not.

[ShadowPaladin V1.0]

No, unless buying a cell phone for 1 SEK with a long term contract is also an indication that cell phones are unpopular. They're not.

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Depends on the contract. It was clear from the start that the 360 wasnt going to set Japan aflame. That became even more clear as games slipped hence the package deals and price cuts (which were lower than the other territories from the start). Cells are not a good example since there are so many of them everyone has to make thiers look as attractive as possible. If the 360 was in fact popular in Japan, then they could have just sold it on it's own. Figures are interesting. The game purchase is below 1 (.9 something) which means a lot of people bought a 360 without any games for some reason.

 

If you want an example from here ToysRus did a deal which was basically if want a 360 then you had to buy at least two games as well as some really rubbish DvD.

People took it because they wanted the machine.

 

The Japanese one is a way to sell the 360 by making it look more attractive by offering a good deal. The ToysRus one was selling crap on the popularity of the 360 which is much like some of the PsP packs last year.

[Haitoku]

Good for him.  I still don't know why people are getting so hung up about X Box 1.5.  Overall the system is not all that great, the games aren't that much better, and it has more problems than it is worth.  I still don't see any reason to buy it.

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I don't know whether I will get an Xbox 360 or not but if KOTOR III comes out as an Xbox 360-exclusive, I will buy the platform for that one title. Yes, I will admit that.

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Its that type of attidue that is killing the PC market.

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Not that i'm defending the Xbox 360.

 

But what is wrong with buying new hardware just to play a single game?

 

People spend thousands upgrading PC equipment just to play the latest games.

 

Is it the peoples fault that consoles are far more convinient?