Darque Posted November 6, 2005 Posted November 6, 2005 Well... maybe it isn't essential then if you've played thru without doing it... I know that you can find one of TNO's old journals down there.. and a fairly powerful weapon.
Darque Posted November 6, 2005 Posted November 6, 2005 oh, and the toughness... I don't think there is any combat actually... but note it's been yeaaaaaaaaars since I last played so don't take that with less than a bag of salt. I think it's just a puzzle.
Gorth Posted November 6, 2005 Posted November 6, 2005 Sounds cool - I remember finding a Lady doll though I didn't piss her off at the time. Will try it now. Why's it needed? I played through several times without getting mazed. The only maze which is compulsory is Ravel's. Amazing! There is another way to get mazed. You can become a worshipper of Aoskar, the original deity and lord of Sigil before The Lady kicked him out and took the place for her own. There is a temple and priest in the Alley of Dangerous Angles (name?) where you can ask about it. To get out of The Lady's maze, you need to go through a portal, then walk all the way back to the portal and step into it again without using any other portal to teleport in the mean time. Of course, I can't remember which portal it is now or even if it's the same from time to time Some nice hammer and a frame and part of your back history in there IIRC. “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein
Atreides Posted November 6, 2005 Author Posted November 6, 2005 Surprisingly I can't find the lady's rag doll at Pharod's vault - I remember it being there the last time I played it... Anyawy will resort to Aoskar now. Spreading beauty with my katana.
Diamond Posted November 6, 2005 Posted November 6, 2005 Surprisingly I can't find the lady's rag doll at Pharod's vault - I remember it being there the last time I played it... Stuff at Pharod's vault is randomly generated. Sometimes the doll is there, sometimes not.
jaguars4ever Posted November 6, 2005 Posted November 6, 2005 IIRC, the best place (or worse - depending on you pov :D ), to obtain the Lady's rag doll is at the Curiosity Shoppe in Clerk's Ward.
BattleCookiee Posted November 6, 2005 Posted November 6, 2005 (edited) Surprisingly I can't find the lady's rag doll at Pharod's vault - I remember it being there the last time I played it... Anyawy will resort to Aoskar now. Just make sure you agree to join right away. The second time you try to talk to him he will no longer talk. Well, except if you bring Morain(?)'s Box. But if you don't give that one right away he will do his "refuse to talk" thing again...and you have an unfinishable quest. (Had to replay a large part due to that...damnit) Irritation lvl almost as high as that stupid Print Shop dude, who locks his shop and thereby tries to screw the Main Quest... Well, except if you bring Morain(?)'s Box. You mean Morridor's Box? Yes. Edited November 6, 2005 by Battlewookiee
Diamond Posted November 6, 2005 Posted November 6, 2005 Well, except if you bring Morain(?)'s Box. You mean Morridor's Box? BTW Anyone knows what is so special about Old Coppereyes in Dustman Bar? He is impossible to kill, looked at his hitpoints through Infinity Explorer - 30,000 HP! He only gives me a Dustman contract, that's all.
jaguars4ever Posted November 6, 2005 Posted November 6, 2005 Anyone knows what is so special about Old Coppereyes in Dustman Bar?He is impossible to kill, looked at his hitpoints through Infinity Explorer - 30,000 HP! He only gives me a Dustman contract, that's all. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> He's there so you can sign a Dead Contract - nothing more...but I suspect his near invincibility was just for a laugh.
Atreides Posted November 6, 2005 Author Posted November 6, 2005 Ok, got through the maze by becoming a desciple of Aoskar :D Spreading beauty with my katana.
Darque Posted November 6, 2005 Posted November 6, 2005 I think you can also get mazed by slaughtering npcs.
Gabrielle Posted November 6, 2005 Posted November 6, 2005 Darque's charisma is at about 9 <{POST_SNAPBACK}> GoA's charisma 2 At your rate of striking out with the ladies.
GhostofAnakin Posted November 6, 2005 Posted November 6, 2005 GoA's charisma 2 At your rate of striking out with the ladies. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Stop picking on me. "Console exclusive is such a harsh word." - Darque"Console exclusive is two words Darque." - Nartwak (in response to Darque's observation)
Gabrielle Posted November 6, 2005 Posted November 6, 2005 You're the one that said there were no pretty non fat chick sw fans.
GhostofAnakin Posted November 6, 2005 Posted November 6, 2005 So I'm being picked on for telling the truth? " "Console exclusive is such a harsh word." - Darque"Console exclusive is two words Darque." - Nartwak (in response to Darque's observation)
GhostofAnakin Posted November 6, 2005 Posted November 6, 2005 Pfft! I've yet to see proof this stereotype is false. I recall a picture thread in way off topic in which none of the females posted a pic to prove it wrong. "Console exclusive is such a harsh word." - Darque"Console exclusive is two words Darque." - Nartwak (in response to Darque's observation)
Darque Posted November 6, 2005 Posted November 6, 2005 (edited) .... Edited November 6, 2005 by Darque
GhostofAnakin Posted November 6, 2005 Posted November 6, 2005 I've yet to see proof You do tend to scare people. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's relevent how? "Console exclusive is such a harsh word." - Darque"Console exclusive is two words Darque." - Nartwak (in response to Darque's observation)
Atreides Posted November 7, 2005 Author Posted November 7, 2005 It's occured to me that some of the art in Torment is amazing. They've basically made new art, animation, spell effects (one of my favs), interface etc just for the game - tons of work and time for just one game. Maybe that's why it wasn't considered a success relative to its sales - the resources invested in the game were very high. Spreading beauty with my katana.
CoM_Solaufein Posted November 7, 2005 Posted November 7, 2005 The good thing about Torment is using the area files for Baldur Gate mods and some of the soundsets are good. Never saw any use for the game since it was dull. War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is StrengthBaldur's Gate moddingTeamBGBaldur's Gate modder/community leaderBaldur's Gate - Enhanced Edition beta testerBaldur's Gate 2 - Enhanced Edition beta tester Icewind Dale - Enhanced Edition beta tester
Sarjahurmaaja. Posted November 7, 2005 Posted November 7, 2005 "It's occured to me that some of the art in Torment is amazing. They've basically made new art, animation, spell effects (one of my favs), interface etc just for the game - tons of work and time for just one game." This is not a rarity in the gaming world. In fact, I believe it is the norm. 9/30 -- NEVER FORGET!
Atreides Posted November 7, 2005 Author Posted November 7, 2005 Compared to say IWD where they reused a lot of the animation and models it would have cost more I think. Spreading beauty with my katana.
Qazplm Posted November 7, 2005 Posted November 7, 2005 Hmmm torment a fun game till i got stuck at a bug and i don't want to replay the game from a earlier save. Why do people praise it to the best game ever made?
Diogo Ribeiro Posted November 7, 2005 Posted November 7, 2005 Why do people praise it to the best game ever made? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Because they're impressionable little things. However, it's nonetheless a very fine game.
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