x1Predator Posted October 19, 2005 Posted October 19, 2005 Does anyone ever wonder how Vandar escaped Dantooine and the other Masters didnt? (For that matter, why wasnt Vrook with Vandar on the Republic ship? He just miaculously appeared on Dantooine in KOTOR II.) If money is the root of all evil.....why is the world not destroyed?
Akhan225 Posted October 19, 2005 Posted October 19, 2005 Maybe its my imagination, but didnt Zhar hold off the Sith forces long enough to allow the others to escape? This could be wrong and i may be delusional.
Nur Ab Sal Posted October 19, 2005 Posted October 19, 2005 Zhar and the black guy died on Katarr. I hope that Vandar too, cause he's ridiculous clone of Yoda. Atris warned them all, and evacuated the artifacts. HERMOCRATES: Nur Ab Sal was one such king. He it was, say the wise men of Egypt, who first put men in the colossus, making many freaks of nature at times when the celestial spheres were well aligned. SOCRATES: This I doubt. We are hearing a child's tale.
Jedi Master D Murda Posted October 19, 2005 Posted October 19, 2005 the black guy <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Dorak. Like the Sisters said, Atris and the other Council members sensed the attack and got out. But what was Atris doing there?
Nur Ab Sal Posted October 19, 2005 Posted October 19, 2005 the black guy <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Dorak. Like the Sisters said, Atris and the other Council members sensed the attack and got out. But what was Atris doing there? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah Dorak! I had him on the edge of my tongue! HERMOCRATES: Nur Ab Sal was one such king. He it was, say the wise men of Egypt, who first put men in the colossus, making many freaks of nature at times when the celestial spheres were well aligned. SOCRATES: This I doubt. We are hearing a child's tale.
Draken Posted October 19, 2005 Posted October 19, 2005 Yeah Dorak! I had him on the edge of my tongue! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What...like...literally? And Vandar kicks ass, so therefore he escaped. Simple logic. Seriously, only like, three people can touch my body
Akhan225 Posted October 19, 2005 Posted October 19, 2005 Vandar does kick ass. I actually changed my KOTOR II character to Vandar for a while. It was pretty sweet, but got boring. How could Atris sense the attack when the others could not?
Gabrielle Posted October 19, 2005 Posted October 19, 2005 Vandar become one with the Force when his ship blew up at the Star Forge.
Zulu 86 Posted October 19, 2005 Posted October 19, 2005 Does't Vandar address Revan and co after the battle though - in the LS ending at least?
Darth Tratious Posted October 19, 2005 Posted October 19, 2005 Does't Vandar address Revan and co after the battle though - in the LS ending at least? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> in the lightside ending but for DS he dies at the starforge
BattleCookiee Posted October 20, 2005 Posted October 20, 2005 How could Atris sense the attack when the others could not? Katarr? She didn't sensed it, she organised the little "trap"
master_pendrak Posted October 20, 2005 Posted October 20, 2005 i always thought the masters fled the enclave once the Sith attacked and Dorak stayed behind to defend the archives against sith soldiers. And perhaps as the sith went throughout the enclave the other masters died except for vandar and vrook who escaped somehow. and IMO i dont think Vandar went to Katarr(sp?) i often wonder did he do a yoda, and hide somewhere. Perhaps thats wishful thinking on my part? lol
Akhan225 Posted October 20, 2005 Posted October 20, 2005 How could Atris sense the attack when the others could not? Katarr? She didn't sensed it, she organised the little "trap" <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If that is what you believe. The Jedi Master's disbelief at her survival can be interpreted several ways.
BattleCookiee Posted October 20, 2005 Posted October 20, 2005 If that is what you believe. The Jedi Master's disbelief at her survival can be interpreted several ways. That's not "what I believe", that's what "cut content" tells me...
Akhan225 Posted October 20, 2005 Posted October 20, 2005 I don't doubt it. Lots of the important stuff for the ending got cut, so thanks for the info Battlewookie.
Zulu 86 Posted October 20, 2005 Posted October 20, 2005 If that is what you believe. The Jedi Master's disbelief at her survival can be interpreted several ways. That's not "what I believe", that's what "cut content" tells me... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think that's actually up on the Chronicles on the official site - telling about Atris planning it all to lure the Sith out into the open - only she had no idea that Nihilus would come and completely obliterate the Jedi. Or, at least I think so anyway... Unfortunately the butchering of the original story has left Atris's motives and character herself extremely confusing Well for me at least...
Jedi Master D Murda Posted October 20, 2005 Posted October 20, 2005 If that is what you believe. The Jedi Master's disbelief at her survival can be interpreted several ways. That's not "what I believe", that's what "cut content" tells me... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think that's actually up on the Chronicles on the official site - telling about Atris planning it all to lure the Sith out into the open - only she had no idea that Nihilus would come and completely obliterate the Jedi. Or, at least I think so anyway... Unfortunately the butchering of the original story has left Atris's motives and character herself extremely confusing Well for me at least... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I agree. The cut content can be looked at to discover Atris's motives but it's not like deleted scenes whereas it can be viewed with the disc. Zhar, Vandar and Dorak and whoever were the mysterious other Council members that went to Katarr and that makes the other five who didn't go ask the question why?
vaxen83 Posted October 29, 2005 Posted October 29, 2005 Having recordings of past trials with Vandar in the third game might be a basis for learning more about the Jedi masters before the civil war that followed. Deep from within... Victims live a life of fantasy. Some see salvation as an act of God, a few look within for it. 朱宣澧
Sikon Posted November 17, 2005 Posted November 17, 2005 (edited) Zhar and Dorak did not die on Dantooine. They died on Katarr, like Vandar. Vrook addresses it during the Rebuilt Enclave scene. Edited November 17, 2005 by Sikon
Can't Think Of A Name Posted November 18, 2005 Posted November 18, 2005 (edited) I don't doubt it. Lots of the important stuff for the ending got cut, so thanks for the info Battlewookie. Yeah, practially the entire ending was cut. 'Nuff Said. Edited November 18, 2005 by Can't Think Of A Name Lord Revan was most displeased with your lack of combat skill. -Something I wish they'd put in KOTOR
Cream Posted November 19, 2005 Posted November 19, 2005 Mini Yoda can do anything duh! Omgee When I first saw him I screamed : YODA!! OMGEE!!! Currently Awaiting KOTOR3 xD! MSN: 1967 Dodge "What spam lacks in quality, It makes up in quantity"
Guest The Architect Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 Zhar and Dorak did not die on Dantooine. They died on Katarr, like Vandar. Vrook addresses it during the Rebuilt Enclave scene. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's of course if you set Revan as a light sider. If you set Revan as a dark sider then Master Vandar dies in the explosion of Admiral Dodonna's Republic Battleship. And I have a question, if you set Revan as a dark sider, then does that change how Zhar and Dorak died or not? Of course I mean I set Revan as a DS Male and I went a DS Male in KOTOR II but I never talked to Vrook about these things, I just killed him!
Spook Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 Zhar and Dorak did not die on Dantooine. They died on Katarr, like Vandar. Vrook addresses it during the Rebuilt Enclave scene. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's of course if you set Revan as a light sider. If you set Revan as a dark sider then Master Vandar dies in the explosion of Admiral Dodonna's Republic Battleship. And I have a question, if you set Revan as a dark sider, then does that change how Zhar and Dorak died or not? Of course I mean I set Revan as a DS Male and I went a DS Male in KOTOR II but I never talked to Vrook about these things, I just killed him! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If you are to play a proper DS Jedi you should first taunt and rant before you kill of the whining old Jedi. You get much more satisfaction as well as information from that..........
Darth_Lord_Ibbe Posted January 6, 2006 Posted January 6, 2006 Speaking of killing Vrook: Wasn't that very, very satisfying? Mean old man. Kept being nasty to me in the first game. Well, guess what: YOU'RE DEAD NOW. YOU CAN'T CRITICIZE ME ANYMORE, can you? No, that's right! Sorry about that. You've been Ibb'd!
CoM_Solaufein Posted January 6, 2006 Posted January 6, 2006 Speaking of killing Vrook: Wasn't that very, very satisfying? Mean old man. Kept being nasty to me in the first game. Well, guess what: YOU'RE DEAD NOW. YOU CAN'T CRITICIZE ME ANYMORE, can you? No, that's right! Sorry about that. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Don't be sorry. Enjoy it. He got what was coming to him. War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is StrengthBaldur's Gate moddingTeamBGBaldur's Gate modder/community leaderBaldur's Gate - Enhanced Edition beta testerBaldur's Gate 2 - Enhanced Edition beta tester Icewind Dale - Enhanced Edition beta tester
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