August 8, 200520 yr Only the map of the masters (so in Kotor1 including shop and pazaak room) Or the whole enclave (So also Kotor2's Sub-level)?
August 8, 200520 yr Author The ground level, not the sublevel. They are not exactly the same. Even the exterior is different: http://starwars.wikicities.com/wiki/Image:Jedienclave.jpg http://starwars.wikicities.com/wiki/Image:...ilt_enclave.jpg And differences in the interior are more significant. Previously, the Council hall was covered by a rather low ceiling, now it's under the open sky.
August 8, 200520 yr So, we are talking about the outside now? Since your pics show that The (KOTOR1) rodian selling good stuff, Jedi and such walking around, entrance to Vision Tomb) The (KOTOR2) Salvage camp, alot of destruction) Or (ignoring the pics) about the map of the Masters?
August 8, 200520 yr The original *looked* nicer, but the rebuilt one gets my vote because it gave you more things to do (ie. sublevels and such). "Console exclusive is such a harsh word." - Darque"Console exclusive is two words Darque." - Nartwak (in response to Darque's observation)
August 8, 200520 yr Author I'm referring to the Enclave itself. As a building. Not to the courtyard, not to the sublevel, not to the surroundings.
August 8, 200520 yr I voted 'original' because the 'rebuilt' one looks like Helms Deep from the Lord of the Rings and I just can't picture a Jedi vs. Orc crusade in the Courtyard "
August 8, 200520 yr I voted 'original' because the 'rebuilt' one looks like Helms Deep from the Lord of the Rings and I just can't picture a Jedi vs. Orc crusade in the Courtyard " <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Do it for the Shire! But the non-rebuilt gets my vote
August 8, 200520 yr The ground level, not the sublevel.They are not exactly the same. Even the exterior is different: http://starwars.wikicities.com/wiki/Image:Jedienclave.jpg http://starwars.wikicities.com/wiki/Image:...ilt_enclave.jpg And differences in the interior are more significant. Previously, the Council hall was covered by a rather low ceiling, now it's under the open sky. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Judging by how it is only partially rebuilt as show by the piles of rubble blocking off certain sections one could assume that the ceiling in the Council chamber has just not bee finished yet. If you look at the two pictures that you posted you will see that the basic design of the building is exactly the same in the before and after photos. I would guess that if the building were to be completely finished it would likely look almost exactly the same as in the original. Anyway, I like the original, because it's finished. "
August 8, 200520 yr The ground level, not the sublevel.They are not exactly the same. Even the exterior is different: http://starwars.wikicities.com/wiki/Image:Jedienclave.jpg http://starwars.wikicities.com/wiki/Image:...ilt_enclave.jpg And differences in the interior are more significant. Previously, the Council hall was covered by a rather low ceiling, now it's under the open sky. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Judging by how it is only partially rebuilt as show by the piles of rubble blocking off certain sections one could assume that the ceiling in the Council chamber has just not bee finished yet. If you look at the two pictures that you posted you will see that the basic design of the building is exactly the same in the before and after photos. I would guess that if the building were to be completely finished it would likely look almost exactly the same as in the original. Anyway, I like the original, because it's finished. " <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That is the same reason why I voted for the original.
August 9, 200520 yr Author Judging by how it is only partially rebuilt as show by the piles of rubble blocking off certain sectionsA pile of rubble only blocks the path to the landing pad where the Ebon Hawk was in the first game, whoch doesn't need any rebuilding, only cleaning.
August 9, 200520 yr They both ended up having a beautiful atmosphere, but I like the ruins a little bit more because it evokes slightly more feelings
August 9, 200520 yr Judging by how it is only partially rebuilt as show by the piles of rubble blocking off certain sectionsA pile of rubble only blocks the path to the landing pad where the Ebon Hawk was in the first game, whoch doesn't need any rebuilding, only cleaning. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I seem to recall that the other path up to where the rooms were was also blocked off however that might just be in the ruined state before the rebuilding.
August 9, 200520 yr The original seems more interesting. It's filled with different people instead of hordes of stupid monsters.
August 9, 200520 yr Rebuilt since you can access other areas. War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is StrengthBaldur's Gate moddingTeamBGBaldur's Gate modder/community leaderBaldur's Gate - Enhanced Edition beta testerBaldur's Gate 2 - Enhanced Edition beta tester Icewind Dale - Enhanced Edition beta tester
August 10, 200520 yr I say original cos it's in one clean looking piece. Pure Pazaak - The Stand-alone Multiplayer Pazaak Game (link to Obsidian board thread) Pure Pazaak website (big thank you to fingolfin)
August 11, 200520 yr I say original cos it's in one clean looking piece. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes,great big holes in the roof can bring out the worst in a place
August 11, 200520 yr Author Of course the original enclave is better no need to discussion at this point.The discussion obviously shows that it's not "of course" and there is need for a discussion.
November 25, 200520 yr THe KotOR1 enclave has to be better for a couple of reasons. 1) It's a nice place, not some abandoned wreck anyone but a salvager would enter. 2) There's a lot of people there, all the jedi, all the NPCs etc. 3) The design's good, and the outside look is good.
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