Mad Scientists create Zombie Dogs!

[Hildegard]

And then the robots will take over and we'll become their batteries! (w00t)

 

After which we'll debase ourselves in massive orgies while Keanu Reeves will go "whoa" and make peace with the robots by debugging their software.

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....certainly hope that won't happen....

 

P.S. .....as long as there is the on/off switch, I feel safe :cool:

[OLD SKOOL WHEELMAN]

The first parts my job...

Damn, you shouldn't take everything so personally. Flat owned up to that already.

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I'm so sorry...I didn't mean to interrupt or anything...

[Darth Flatus]

I always spell correctly, any error you see in my posts is the result of miscommunication between my fingers and the keyboard.

[Roger]

You're above him now, Wheelman, aren't you glad? Believe it or not, but I misread your comment -- that's the cost of it, I suppose...

[Hildegard]

Go away, you are derailing the derailment.

 

You cant expect people to read a single block of writing man! Good God! use paragraphs!

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I fixed my post....

Happy Flatus....?

 

P.S. I'll go away, I'm going to practice math and listen to J.Hayden for a couple of hours, happy Flatus?....need anything else paragraph nazi? ....I still have nightmares when you said the same thing to my first post on the forum :'(

[Darth Flatus]

I did? I'll take your word for it, i cannot be expected to remember all my troll-like comments.

[11XHooah]

All your talk about clone armies in the future are, by my opinion, rubish.......

In the future, as the technology goes further and the battlefield landscape rapidly changes, the roll of people will deminish in the military and will be replaced by mechanized and A.I. factors....just look at the american X-47 project, it's just the begging.....

When the progressive research and development of computers and A.I. totaly surpasses the capabilities of the human brain, that would cause a dramatic reduction of the human role in the army, because then machines will think faster, better and more adequate to adapt to situations in the battlefield and not to mention the far superior physical  strenght and endurance....

 

Size of your army almost won't matter anymore, the quality, equipment, technology and weapons are the factors that will the decide the winner....not numbers and particulary not the numbers of foot soldiers that will totaly disappear.

 

Your ideas of huge clone armies inspired by sw is completly baseless......those scenes of ground battles in sw are utterly lame and pathetic in terms of weapons, strategy and overexaggerated numbers of soldiers.....please the battle in the end of ep2 looks, other then the space ships, like a medieval battle, but instead of swords, pikes and bowes they had blasters.....

 

..come on,please tell me 11XHooah.....with a dozen M-270 rocket launchers and a couple of MOAB's you would wipe out the clone and the droid army completly, not to mention WMD's in those situations.....those battles in sw are made for the sole purpose of making the film more epic and making the movie look more impressive on the big screen, pointing out suggestions about future warfare or the role of the clones based on sw is eligible only for 6 year old children with wild and unrealistic imagination. With the role of people reducing in the army in the future there is just no need in creating huge numbers of clone soldier........................................what was this topic about again?

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Oh come on, I was just trying to be creative

[EnderAndrew]

I always spell correctly, any error you see in my posts is the result of miscommunication between my fingers and the keyboard.

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Spellmar says, "learn to use the underappreciated semicolon".

[Darth Flatus]

Only when it matters.

[metadigital]

... And speak in complete sentences.

[Deraldin]

And then the robots will take over and we'll become their batteries! (w00t)

 

After which we'll debase ourselves in massive orgies while Keanu Reeves will go "whoa" and make peace with the robots by debugging their software.

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We're a lot closer to terminators than sentinels. Didn't you watch Terminator 3? Skynet will soon be operational and then we'll all be doomed!

[Hildegard]

And then the robots will take over and we'll become their batteries! (w00t)

 

After which we'll debase ourselves in massive orgies while Keanu Reeves will go "whoa" and make peace with the robots by debugging their software.

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We're a lot closer to terminators than sentinels. Didn't you watch Terminator 3? Skynet will soon be operational and then we'll all be doomed!

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I don't know if you were kidding about that or not, but the Americans are developing a rather similar thing to Skynet - it's called the FCS ( Future Combat Systems). It will be used like Skynet, to connect every soldier and military hardware......if you want to learn more here's the link:global security

[Azarkon]

We're a lot closer to terminators than sentinels. Didn't you watch Terminator 3? Skynet will soon be operational and then we'll all be doomed!

 

Yeah, but it's somewhat harder to make a joke about Terminator . I guess Arnold being the herald of our apocalyptic future is comic, but T3 actually had a good, poignant ending, imo.

 

:cool: I'll be back.

[Laozi]

Clones vs. Robots?

I think we're all forgetting about cyborgs here

[Darth Flatus]

Whats the point of a cyborg? In terminator it was to infiltrate the humans. In open warfare its pretty pointless.

[Hildegard]

Whats the point of a cyborg? In terminator it was to infiltrate the humans. In open warfare its pretty pointless.

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You asked.......(and just for you Flatus......in paragraphs):

 

The cyborg-like Land Warrior program represents the Army's attempt to plug individual infantrymen into the same technology that pilots and submarine captains use in battle. It means incorporating functions like night vision, radio, protective clothing, navigation and positioning systems, weapons guidance and other sensors and gadgets into one piece of equipment that soldiers wear like a uniform.

 

If all goes well, soldiers may someday become half-man, half-machine.

 

"What we're trying to achieve is the same level of overmatched capability that we have in the air, on the ground," said Bret Herscher, president and founder of Pemstar Pacific Consultants. "No air force would ever fly against the U.S. Air Force -- not even our allies, like the British."

 

Pacific Consultants, a division of Minnesota-based contract manufacturer Pemstar, grosses about $25 million a year, according to the company, by performing high-level instrument design. Founded in 1995, it employs 90 engineers in Mountain View, most of whom hold Ph.D.s.

 

Typical projects involve designing a heart stent for a big pharmaceutical company or an electronic router for a telecom company. Four years ago, the company branched into the defense business when the Army came to Silicon Valley to update Land Warrior after the 40-pound prototype, produced by Raytheon, proved to be too bulky.

 

Menlo Park-based Exponent, a scientific consulting company, won the contract and brought in Pacific Consultants because of its experience designing wireless equipment. Now defense giant General Dynamics holds the contract for Land Warrior, which was just re-upped this year for $60 million. Pacific Consultants' role has increased so that they have a hand in updating all of Land Warrior's hardware, though Herscher said he can not say how much his company's piece of the contract is worth.

 

Silicon Valley ingenuity has always kept businesses, with their networks and computers, running smoothly. As the Army has gotten more sophisticated about using computing power in battle, it is also starting to hire private companies to upgrade its systems rather than rely on in-house technology.

 

"By using off-the-shelf technology we saved the Army money, as they didn't have to reinvent the wheel,"said Angela Meyer, a vice president at Exponent, which first brought the project to Silicon Valley. In fact, the system itself is estimated to only cost about $30,000 per person, down from initial estimates of $60,000. The weight has fallen from 40 pounds to around 10 pounds.

 

While Raytheon spent over $100 million during the 1990s working on the first Land Warrior system, the Silicon Valley team produced its first prototype in six months for $2 million, using Windows software and computer chips anyone can buy at Radio Shack or Fry's Electronics.

 

Military decisions to buy existing technology is a controversial, decade-old trend, says John Pike, the director of GlobalSecurity.org, a defense policy group in Virginia. The military on the one hand sees the benefits of private industry's technology but worries it has less control over what gets developed.

 

Despite all the excitement and money spent, the Land Warrior remains in prototype form. Pacific Consultants' Herscher said it may be more than a year before soldiers can use it in battle.

 

The Army also has not been able to test other aspects of the "digitized infantry" programs in real life. The cutting-edge 4th Mechanized Infantry entered Iraq from Kuwait in early April, but the war ended before it saw real action, said Pike.

 

If it had, it would have been able to try out Force XXI technology, which uses computers to digitally link together tanks, helicopters and personnel carriers, so they are all on the same digital wavelength, as Pike described it.

 

If all goes well with the work of Pacific Consultants on Land Warrior, combat infantrymen will be on the same wavelength, too.

 

Those improvments will be implemented in the "Land Warrior" project:

 

Land Warrior integrates small arms with high-tech equipment enabling ground forces to deploy, fight and win on the battlefields of the 21st century. Land Warrior came about in 1991 when an Army study group recommended the service look at the soldier as a complete weapon system. Land Warrior is a first-generation, modular fighting system for individual infantrymen. It is composed of six integrated subsystems that include clothing and equipment needed to enhance soldier lethality, survivability, mobility and target acquisition capabilities.

[11XHooah]

Great post Hildegard. That is some interesting stuff. I hope I get a chance to use it.

[Azarkon]

Whats the point of a cyborg? In terminator it was to infiltrate the humans. In open warfare its pretty pointless.

 

Well, besides being the transition point between human soldiers and robot soldiers, you also have the added benefit that you're not relying on the AI for intelligent behavior. Realistically, human soldiers operating machines have no chance in hell against the kind of AI depicted in sci-fi, but cyborgs, which enhance human soldiers, can bring them to levels close to or matching pure robots.

 

Maybe that's just my fanboyishness talking. Cyborgs vs. Robots for teh win.

[Deraldin]

And then the robots will take over and we'll become their batteries! (w00t)

 

After which we'll debase ourselves in massive orgies while Keanu Reeves will go "whoa" and make peace with the robots by debugging their software.

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We're a lot closer to terminators than sentinels. Didn't you watch Terminator 3? Skynet will soon be operational and then we'll all be doomed!

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I don't know if you were kidding about that or not, but the Americans are developing a rather similar thing to Skynet - it's called the FCS ( Future Combat Systems). It will be used like Skynet, to connect every soldier and military hardware......if you want to learn more here's the link:global security

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We're all doomed! We must shut it down before it becomes self aware and kills us all!

 

And Cyborgs for teh W1N!

[Archmonarch]

For above link:

 

[Archmonarch]

Hmm...it seems to be working now. Odd.

[Deraldin]

That is odd. The original link has been changed. It seems to work half the time and then get a remote linking disallowed image the other half. Not working anymore though.

[Child of Flame]

Whats the point of a cyborg? In terminator it was to infiltrate the humans. In open warfare its pretty pointless.

 

Well, besides being the transition point between human soldiers and robot soldiers, you also have the added benefit that you're not relying on the AI for intelligent behavior. Realistically, human soldiers operating machines have no chance in hell against the kind of AI depicted in sci-fi, but cyborgs, which enhance human soldiers, can bring them to levels close to or matching pure robots.

 

Maybe that's just my fanboyishness talking. Cyborgs vs. Robots for teh win.

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Or put the two intelligences together and get something better than an AI! (w00t)

[Guest Fishboot]

It's gonna be pretty awful when some enemy force learns to cause an overflow error and reverse the Friend-or-Foe id programs. Maybe by tooting a crunchwhistle.

[Child of Flame]

Necroposting and Necrodogs.