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Hmmm. I hate to think what that would do to somone's brain, but then te principle has already been used in a milder form in heart surgery, so you never know.

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That is just plain creepy...

 

I never get why they spend time and research money on such things when the focus of their concentration and work should go on finding cures for diseases and such...

 

Oh well...

 

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Hypothermia works wonders for preserving the body, there are several cases where people who fell into cold water stayed below the surface for more than 15 minutes without suffering any damage to the brain or other organs :thumbsup:

 

 

 

And this IS useful, if you can apply this method to preserve an injured person long enough to get him to surgery then you would save their lives. Noone would need to die from bloodloss or heart failiure(provided you can rstart the heart at the hospital) again.

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I never said it was useless... I just personally believe that such time and spending should be spent on the research of cures and treatments for diseases such as cancer and HIV etc. since more people die and suffer from such things than they do of bloodloss...

 

That's just my opinion though... we're all entitled to think differently :wub:

 

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It's funny Roger, I was thinking the exact same thing. And also one the last note by a "battlefield doctor", so are they planning on using this on soldiers or what? Get shot up, die, drive em home to base and revive em. Now that would indeed be creepy.

 

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I never said it was useless... I just personally believe that such time and spending should be spent on the research of cures and treatments for diseases such as cancer and HIV etc. since more people die and suffer from such things than they do of bloodloss...

 

That's just my opinion though... we're all entitled to think differently  o:)

I'm sorry I can't agree with this "pragmatic science is best" approach. There are innumerable seemingly intractable problems that were solved due to some totally random benefit from research in a different sphere of science.

 

The corollory of your attitude is that "someone" decides what is worth researching in science, which is impractical at best and immoral at worst.

 

This is not just research into preserving people who have lost blood, it is a possible way to preserve organ donors (which is very difficult) and even the recipients!

 

As Kaftan said, there have been examples (not contrived!) in recent times where people have been submerged in sub-zero water for long periods of time and survived. I recall a child (around the Canadian-US border, IIRC) that was revived after hours.

 

As to people discussing the affect on the soul: these bodies aren't dead. Clincally, the autonomic system has shut down, but you have the same issues with people revived with defibrolators: do you believe these people have lost their original souls?

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I never said it was useless... I just personally believe that such time and spending should be spent on the research of cures and treatments for diseases such as cancer and HIV etc. since more people die and suffer from such things than they do of bloodloss...

I really don't think this is the case. Death from bleeding is very common, even when you're in a hospital, because the doctors just doesn't have enough time to repair all the damaged blood vessels before your life runs out of your body. With this technique, a LOT more people could be saved (gunshot wounds, car accidents, chainsaw accidents, suicide attempts and so on). If only you could see how many people come into the ER every Friday night.. (my sister is a doctor).

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I don't have a dog. And you can disbelieve everything, Flat, but that doesn't make you correct either.

 

 

And also one the last note by a "battlefield doctor", so are they planning on using this on soldiers or what? Get shot up, die, drive em home to base and revive em. Now that would indeed be creepy.
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I'd be interested to see the application of this technique on the battlefield. I'm sure a lot more Soldiers will be saved if this method is used.

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How do you know that you don't lose your soul each time you fall asleep? o:)

 

After all, your consciousness could've been recreated each night, and the current you might be a entirely different person than you were yesterday, only with the same memories.

 

I mean, famous thought experiment: assume that I replaced your neurons one by one with electronic neurons that served the exact same purpose. At what point do you "lose" your soul, assuming that the transistors do the exact same thing and that the result is a person with the equivalent neuronal connections?

 

And what's more, what if I used the replaced cells to construct another brain that is neurologically identical to the electric one? Which body will your "consciousness" inhabit then, if any?

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