Malak VS Kriea

[Slipstreme]

I have tried fighting both of them as a straight cousiler and I gotta say that Malak is much stronger

[ShadowPaladin V1.0]

I have tried fighting both of them as a straight cousiler and I gotta say that Malak is much stronger 

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Only because he cheats his arse off.

[jodo kast 5]

I have tried fighting both of them as a straight cousiler and I gotta say that Malak is much stronger 

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Only because he cheats his arse off.

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your damn right, ibet if he didnt cheat all the time he would be easy to defeat.

[w666tvr]

They both cheat - check Kreia's wisdom modifier during that final battle.

 

But I much prefer fighting Kreia: sudden and severe increases in difficulty - like fighting Malak - are a sign of poor game design. To do it in the final battle just smacks of trying to prevent the player from finishing the game. Were Bioware afraid the game didn't have enough replay value?

 

I have always felt that if you are capable of getting to the end of a game you should be able to complete it. When the game tries to stop you I stop playing.

[Sarjahurmaaja.]

"But I much prefer fighting Kreia: sudden and severe increases in difficulty - like fighting Malak - are a sign of poor game design."

 

As a Mega Man X fan, I might just barely have to disagree, but I digress...

 

Malak was hard/significantly less easy than the rest of KOTOR1? News to me.

[ShadowPaladin V1.0]

They both cheat - check Kreia's wisdom modifier during that final battle.

 

But I much prefer fighting Kreia: sudden and severe increases in difficulty - like fighting Malak - are a sign of poor game design. To do it in the final battle just smacks of trying to prevent the player from finishing the game. Were Bioware afraid the game didn't have enough replay value?

 

I have always felt that if you are capable of getting to the end of a game you should be able to complete it. When the game tries to stop you I stop playing.

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Thats not cheating per se, it could be explained away as her connection to the planet boosting her power. Plus you wont find that out without cheating yourself which means it has no actual impact on the credibility of the battle.

 

Where as Malak is obviously cheating. You hit him and when he's in danger of dying he becomes immortal which just kills the credibility of the game dead. Cant saber him in the back as he runs for the tanks because he can only be hurt when the designers want him hurt.

 

I agree mainly because I didnt have a power that could bust the tanks, although standing around the corner and smacking him each time he came around did the trick even if it lacked movie style.

[Master Arca]

Heh, I've yet to play the first game, but considering how easy it was to defeat Kreia, I'm sure Malak is probably more of a challenge.

[Draken]

See, what I did is I NEVER upgraded Kreia. Not once. I always used someone else to fight. I only talked to her. I don't think it really made the last battle any easier, but in my mind it did. :ph34r:

[Slipstreme]

They both cheat - check Kreia's wisdom modifier during that final battle.

 

But I much prefer fighting Kreia: sudden and severe increases in difficulty - like fighting Malak - are a sign of poor game design. To do it in the final battle just smacks of trying to prevent the player from finishing the game. Were Bioware afraid the game didn't have enough replay value?

 

I have always felt that if you are capable of getting to the end of a game you should be able to complete it. When the game tries to stop you I stop playing.

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Thats not cheating per se, it could be explained away as her connection to the planet boosting her power. Plus you wont find that out without cheating yourself which means it has no actual impact on the credibility of the battle.

 

Where as Malak is obviously cheating. You hit him and when he's in danger of dying he becomes immortal which just kills the credibility of the game dead. Cant saber him in the back as he runs for the tanks because he can only be hurt when the designers want him hurt.

 

I agree mainly because I didnt have a power that could bust the tanks, although standing around the corner and smacking him each time he came around did the trick even if it lacked movie style.

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Well actually his boost in power does make sense what with the DS bost from the Star Forge <_<

 

Number 1: You can destroy the tanks before he can recharge by using the Droid Destroy power.

 

Number 2: (LS) If you have force wave and a steady supply of grenades he is a scinch

 

Or Number 3: (DS) Shock him! Shock him Good

 

But if you try to run head-long into the fight just using you're saber instead of your wits you are DEAD :'(

[Zagor]

Both were too easy, in fact the entire games were. And poorly balanced, it got easier the further in the game you got, instead of the opposite.

[Slipstreme]

Both were too easy, in fact the entire games were. And poorly balanced, it got easier the further in the game you got, instead of the opposite.

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Actually it was usually muffin soft, but there was a few rock hard moments like when those Dark Jedi and Sith monkeys in the Trayus academy would gain up on you <_<

[ShadowPaladin V1.0]

Both were too easy, in fact the entire games were. And poorly balanced, it got easier the further in the game you got, instead of the opposite.

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A common fault in RPGs.

[ShadowPaladin V1.0]

Actually it was usually muffin soft, but there was a few rock hard moments like when those Dark Jedi and Sith monkeys in the Trayus academy would gain up on you  <_<

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I think I just force waved my way through that part.

 

Rock hard to me is a boss fight that can last upwards of 5 hours

[Slipstreme]

Actually it was usually muffin soft, but there was a few rock hard moments like when those Dark Jedi and Sith monkeys in the Trayus academy would gain up on you  <_<

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I think I just force waved my way through that part.

 

Rock hard to me is a boss fight that can last upwards of 5 hours

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I mean if you don't know what you're doing, I did, but it took my sister five hours to get through Trayus, she hadn't gotten force-wave and without that its a pain to get through, not impossible but defiantly a pain <_<

[STDSkillz]

How do you go about checking Kreia's attributes whilst fighting her?

[MTJ]

Hmm Kotor was generally hard when on normal. Of course it's easy when you're on easy lmao.

 

Though Kotor 2 I have been playing every game on hard (Normal for unlocking doors) and the only time I come close to dying is the Czerka base on Telos

[Zagor]

I've always played both game on hard, and some force powers makes them to easy. Especially heal, which makes you practically invincible. And don't tell me to stop using it, because I can't resist :D

[Deraldin]

Actually it was usually muffin soft, but there was a few rock hard moments like when those Dark Jedi and Sith monkeys in the Trayus academy would gain up on you  <_<

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I think I just force waved my way through that part.

 

Rock hard to me is a boss fight that can last upwards of 5 hours

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I mean if you don't know what you're doing, I did, but it took my sister five hours to get through Trayus, she hadn't gotten force-wave and without that its a pain to get through, not impossible but defiantly a pain <_<

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It took me about 10 minutes to melee my way through to Sion. Less time if I have the third Force Lightning power.

[Laozi]

Malak was alot harder, but neither was difficult.

 

The think about Malak was that the game totally punished you for having a balanced character, where as in K2 it didn't matter, even if you tried to build a horrible character, you'd probaly still come away as a bad ass

[Dodecahedron87]

Both were too easy, in fact the entire games were. And poorly balanced, it got easier the further in the game you got, instead of the opposite.

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A common fault in RPGs.

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Yeah, this really bugs me too. It seems to me that the reason this always seems to happen is because:

 

1. Later in the game, you have more options (more abilities), so it is easier to find a workaround to anything that would be difficult.

 

2. The reward for a skilled player who completes side quests is to make the game easier! The game essentially scales DOWN in difficulty when a skilled player plays.

 

If I had it my way, completing sidequests and optional tasks would make the game harder, instead rewarding the player with either more storyline, hidden areas, or unlockables. Eh, I don't know if that would really work, though.

 

I thought Kreia was harder than Malak, but maybe that was because I was auto-levelling my character all game in KotOR2 in a vain attempt to make the game more difficult.

[Slipstreme]

To line number 2, I gotta say; Exactly

[jodo kast 5]

Both were too easy, in fact the entire games were. And poorly balanced, it got easier the further in the game you got, instead of the opposite.

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A common fault in RPGs.

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Yeah, this really bugs me too. It seems to me that the reason this always seems to happen is because:

 

1. Later in the game, you have more options (more abilities), so it is easier to find a workaround to anything that would be difficult.

 

2. The reward for a skilled player who completes side quests is to make the game easier! The game essentially scales DOWN in difficulty when a skilled player plays.

 

If I had it my way, completing sidequests and optional tasks would make the game harder, instead rewarding the player with either more storyline, hidden areas, or unlockables. Eh, I don't know if that would really work, though.

 

I thought Kreia was harder than Malak, but maybe that was because I was auto-levelling my character all game in KotOR2 in a vain attempt to make the game more difficult.

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it couldnt then the final boss would be so powerful that you couldnt beat it.

[ShadowPaladin V1.0]

2. The reward for a skilled player who completes side quests is to make the game easier!  The game essentially scales DOWN in difficulty when a skilled player plays.

 

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Yep thats been my experience too, seems a bit backwards dosnt it. After all it's the people who cant do the bonus' who need the help.

[dufflover]

At least Malak didn't have three floating lightsabers, and I think it was rather clever to have it that you could use those Jedi bodies in K1 to your advantage if you have the powers.

[Jedi Master D Murda]

Malak was harder than Kreia. It took me many hours to beat Malak, maybe because Kotor was a new genre of game for me, I usually play FPS's. But the battle against Malak was more epic, Revan vs. Malak. Fighting Kriea was fun but easy. I liked using that Force mind power to turn one of her sabers against the others. But it was less epic for me.