Look at this

[Master Horn]

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/08/13/news_6104775.html

[ShadowPaladin V1.0]

When I read the title and your name I was expecting sometning questionable :D

 

It's old news, and besides you really wouldnt want a KOTOR III done by LA in house.

[anakins revenge]

yeah, LA always ****s up what could be games with enormous potential.

[MTJ]

Why would K3 be stalled if LA is revamping their company.

 

Whoever is working on K3 wouldn't be effected besides this aside from attain a lincense.

 

When I read the title and your name I was expecting sometning questionable :D

 

It's old news, and besides you really wouldnt want a KOTOR III done by LA in house.

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Hahahah.. hahha.. can't stop laughing.

 

You do know that Lucasarts developed and produced some of the best games of all time. Every game they turn out is simply supre.

[Darkfire]

Why would K3 be stalled if LA is revamping their company.

 

Whoever is working on K3 wouldn't be effected besides this aside from attain a lincense.

From the end of the article...

 

'On the project front, an informed industry source said the team attached to the early stages of development on Knights of the Old Republic 3 was let go in yesterday's layoff.'

 

Bit difficult to make a game without designers, developers, artists and QA people. Though a lot of publishers do try...

[MTJ]

Oh well it's typical for LA. They have been laying off all of their game designers for the past 10 years.

 

It's really interested to know that LA tried to undertake the project themselves, though the team got layoffed. So unless a company picks it up there isn't even going to be a KOTOR.

 

Great work Obsidan, ending the franchise with a crappy game.

[Draken]

I don't trust the media enough to believe stuff like this. <_< Maybe those workers were fired, but KOTOR 3 is still coming out. I don't think LA would sacrifice all the money they could make with KOTOR 3 just because some workers were fired. They should make Bioware do it. They'll make it great.

[ShadowPaladin V1.0]

I don't trust the media enough to believe stuff like this. <_<  Maybe those workers were fired, but KOTOR 3 is still coming out. I don't think LA would sacrifice all the money they could make with KOTOR 3 just because some workers were fired. They should make Bioware do it. They'll make it great.

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Hardly, they will make it adequate.

[jodo kast 5]

yeah, LA always ****s up what could be games with enormous potential.

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no, they rush too damn much on their games.if they'd take their time their games would be a hell of a lot better.

[Darkfire]

I don't trust the media enough to believe stuff like this. <_<  Maybe those workers were fired, but KOTOR 3 is still coming out. I don't think LA would sacrifice all the money they could make with KOTOR 3 just because some workers were fired. They should make Bioware do it. They'll make it great.

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Thats assuming that Lucasarts has the money to make (or pay someone to make) the game in the first place. The lay offs would suggest they are running low on funds...

[cewekeds]

The people where layed off. I've had a few friends that worked at lucas art and it sucks. You'll be working on a project then it gets done the tell you not to come into work. Then three months later a new project starts and your called in to work again.

[Sarjahurmaaja.]

"You do know that Lucasarts developed and produced some of the best games of all time. Every game they turn out is simply supre."

 

Yeah, like 10 years ago.

[Stargate: 2000]

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/08/13/news_6104775.html

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Look at the very bottom of the article and it says that it was posted in august of last year. Here is a quote for all of you who may doubt me.

 

"On the project front, an informed industry source said the team attached to the early stages of development on Knights of the Old Republic 3 was let go in yesterday's layoff.

 

By Curt Feldman -- GameSpot

POSTED: 08/13/04 12:25 PM PST"

[ncr]

I don't trust the media enough to believe stuff like this. <_<  Maybe those workers were fired, but KOTOR 3 is still coming out. I don't think LA would sacrifice all the money they could make with KOTOR 3 just because some workers were fired. They should make Bioware do it. They'll make it great.

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Hardly, they will make it adequate.

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What in the world is your problem with Bioware?

[ShadowPaladin V1.0]

What in the world is your problem with Bioware?

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I've outgrown them.

[ncr]

Then you've outgrown good games as well then.

[ShadowPaladin V1.0]

Then you've outgrown good games as well then.

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No just seriously overhyped ones :D

 

I could write an essay on what was wrong with Bioware games from NwN to now. But it's wasted on fanboys. Like the matrix you will have to get out on your own

[Draken]

Oh no....its you again. The hater of Jade Empire. (well not hate..but you know what I mean)

 

Just because some workers were laid off, it doesn't mean they would cancel the whole project. Remember, it was during early stages of development. If they weren't that far in, I think they would try again with new staff. Better staff. Like, lets say, Bioware?

[ShadowPaladin V1.0]

Oh no....its you again. The hater of Jade Empire. (well not hate..but you know what I mean)

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No, do enlighten me.

 

I dont know about you, but a 20 hour RPG with a see through story and a combat system that would insult the intelligence of a chimp does not make me a happy camper.

 

I personally dont want Bioware and their obvious storytelling anywhere near KOTORIII. And the less I see Revan the better.

[Archmonarch]

Oh no....its you again. The hater of Jade Empire. (well not hate..but you know what I mean)

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I believe you mean me...

[Gorth]

Oh no....its you again. The hater of Jade Empire. (well not hate..but you know what I mean)

 

Just because some workers were laid off, it doesn't mean they would cancel the whole project. Remember, it was during early stages of development. If they weren't that far in, I think they would try again with new staff. Better staff. Like, lets say, Bioware?

It's not always just a question of which staff does it (I haven't been particularly impressed with Biowares games since BG2 either and even the main story arc in that one was silly). An equally important factor is the budget and time schedule. There are things you just can't rush by throwing more people at it in a project, so sufficient time and testing *is* part of what makes a game easier to digest. Some companies (no names mentioned, there are more than one) have figured it out and become the junk food of the gaming industry, games that are addictive and easy to get into and just as easy to forget and never get back to.

[Draken]

Whatever! I'm not trying to turn this into a Jade Empire debate like we did wth Misty Eyed Movie Moments! The point is that in the hands of a reliable company, be it Bioware or whoever the hell you want, KOTOR 3 would trounce KOTOR 1 and 2 in terms of story. I was just implying that Lucas Arts should consider letting Bioware back in, as they proved with KOTOR that they can make an above average RPG. They may not make the best RPG's, but they do make good ones.

 

Now I'm just spamming, so I'll leave it at that. Please get back on topic. <_<

[Gorth]

Whatever! I'm not trying to turn this into a Jade Empire debate like we did wth Misty Eyed Movie Moments! The point is that in the hands of a reliable company, be it Bioware or whoever the hell you want, KOTOR 3 would trounce KOTOR 1 and 2 in terms of story. I was just implying that Lucas Arts should consider letting Bioware back in, as they proved with KOTOR that they can make an above average RPG. They may not make the best RPG's, but they do make good ones.

No idea about Jade Empire, didn't follow it, no plans on getting it (don't have a console), but for the rest, it was Bioware who turned L.A. down not the other way around. Makes you wonder if they saw the time shedule and went: Go &^%$ yourself :D

[Archmonarch]

Actually, for once this debate is on topic, as we are discussing our opinions of who should develop Kotor 3 in a thread which focuses on the laying off of the in-house LA dev team. Thus, speculation on said topic is to be expected and welcomed.

 

That said, Bioware makes okay games. They aren't great, they aren't excellent, they are just okay. See, what prevents Bioware from making great games is their overuse of foreshadowing, their inability to create "surprising" storylines that aren't readily apparent from the first hour of play, and their equation of evil with thuggery. Combat isnt one of their strongsuits either.

 

If given the time and proper resources, I believe Obsidian could make a highly superior game to any of Bioware's. I suppose we shall see with NWN 2.

[GhostofAnakin]

That said, Bioware makes okay games. They aren't great, they aren't excellent, they are just okay. See, what prevents Bioware from making great games is their overuse of foreshadowing, their inability to create "surprising" storylines that aren't readily apparent from the first hour of play, and their equation of evil with thuggery. Combat isnt one of their strongsuits either. 

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I dunno. Of the current gaming companies, I'd say Bioware and Obsidian are responsible for my favorite games (yes, Obsidian only has one to their credit). But I suppose it's subjective, however IMO, Bioware DOES create great games. Atleast in comparison to what else is on the market in that genre.