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sorry if this has been discussed, but I searched and nothing came up....what's the deal with Bioware's Dragon Age? It looks a hell of a lot like NWN, with nice looking graphics and a toolset/multiplayer option. Is this supposed to be competing with NWN 2 or something?

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In either case, Bioware wins.


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I know this is going to sound stupid, but why did they drop NWN 2, just to create something else just like it??  :thumbsup:

 

So they wouldn't have to deal with WOTC.

So that they can create their own RPG universe.

So that royalties wouldn't cut into their profit margin.

So that they can have more say in publishing decisions.

Plus plenty more reasons.


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addendum.

 

So that Hades wouldn't call them out on messing with D20 core rules.


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sorry if this has been discussed, but I searched and nothing came up....what's the deal with Bioware's Dragon Age? It looks a hell of a lot like NWN, with nice looking graphics and a toolset/multiplayer option. Is this supposed to be competing with NWN 2 or something?

 

This thread is going to get moved/whacked as this is the wrong forum and many topics about it in the off topic/rpg forum. But with that said...

 

DA is more a BG mirror image. Strong SP, full party control. MP a after thought and no pw/semi-pw ability at all from the sounds of it.

 

Also you are going to have a much smaller custom content community working on DA. As its going to be much more complex then NWN. But that content should be consistantly high quality. So its a trade off I suppose.

 

I feel DA will be a good, solid SP game with limited cc, again similar to the path BG evolved.

 

But nwn2 will be more or less closer to how nwn1 is currently cc/community wise.


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Well, Biwoare had said way back when that NWN 1 was as good as BG when that was an outright lie. We have seen their quality of late in game making which took a sharp downhill spiral since ToB.

 

The plotline of DA I suspect that a great artifact from the ancient past has been found and is being used in some dark purpose. The main female NPC on the side of good and right will be seduced and join the side of evil which then you will have the chance to redeem her, kill her, or join her.

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hhmm.. that sounds like a fresh, new idea. Perhaps you can sell that to bioware..? :thumbsup:


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Yeah, I probably should. Its not like they have used it before. :thumbsup:

 

Oh, yes they did. They used it in Neverwinter Knights of the Old Republic.

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Neverwinterian Knights of the Old Republic sounds like a cool game. :lol:

 

I actually have more faith in NWN2 due to their current team :lol: Either way, both of thoose games are going on my shelf!

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Yeah, I probably should.  Its not like they have used it before.  :(

 

Oh, yes they did.  They used it in Neverwinter Knights of the Old Republic.

 

I assume theres a inside swipe at KOTOR I but since I never played that I am kind of in the dark..


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I will buy Never Winter Nights 2!!!!!

 

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The plotline of DA I suspect that a great artifact from the ancient past has been found and is being used in some dark purpose.  The main female NPC on the side of good and right will be seduced and join the side of evil which then you will have the chance to redeem her, kill her, or join her.

 

 

You forgot about the ancient mysterious race who created everything.

 

 

The BW designers must all have read the same "Drama for Dummies" book when writing the plot for their games. The thing they pulled with NWN-KoTOR was dirt cheap.

 

 

nevertheless I enjoyed NWN immensly and KoTOR is my favorite CRPG of all time.


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"DA is more a BG mirror image."

 

No, it isn't. Last I checked, BG didn't have a toolset at all. Last I checked, Bg didn't have a DM client which i do believe DA has (could be mistaken here though). The tooslet will probably be more complicated to use than NWN1/2s; but I doubt it'll be as complicated as I you presume...

 

As BIO has said, DA is a combination of BG, NWN, and KOTOR - basically all of their games.

 

As for me, I'll buy both.


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no pw/semi-pw ability at all from the sounds of it.

 

I could have sworn they said it would have about as much pw support as NWN1 had. IE: It's possible but it's not really designed with it in mind.

 

Might have to delve into the Bio forums to find the relevant quote... :)

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I assume theres a inside swipe at KOTOR I but since I never played that I am kind of in the dark..

 

For the most part KotOR 1 is a good game but Bioware made a few amateurish mistakes in its writing and designed it for power gaming casuals who couldn't solve a puzzle to get out of a wet paper bag.

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