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Heh. I like to pick on mr. Avellone a lot espicially whn it comes to the over adulation of PST; but I must say I do enjoy these 'ramblings'. They are always informative. Good stuff.

 

 

 

"For me, it was quite obvious that K2 wasnt going to be a continuation of KoTOR"

 

Um.. Yes, it is. It may not be a direct continuation of the same characetrs but what "occured" in KOTOR1 does play a part in KOTOR2. Hence the questions at the game start supposedly.

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Heh. I like to pick on mr. Avellone a lot espicially whn it comes to the over adulation of PST;

 

 

 

...that's jus' cuz ye wouldna know a good story if'n someone smoked ya o'er the head wit' it, dwarf... :thumbsup:

 

 

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Thanks for the rambling Chris. I look forward to buying your game. :cool:

 

 

I'm sure we'll all enjoy the new characters. Especially Atton!  :wub:

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The only character I really wanted to see again was Carth....little punk got away from my wrath.. :devil:  We have some unfinished business.

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Those pictures of Carth at the leather club that surfaced earlier this year

 

 

 

:devil::thumbsup: :ph34r:

 

 

 

...canna be any worse than the ones where he an' Josh Sawyer was doin' a version o' the G-String Hussle back at BIS...now those was some scary stuff... :lol:

 

 

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A long, long time ago, but I can still remember,
How the Trolling used to make me smile.
And I knew if I had my chance, I could egg on a few Trolls to "dance",
And maybe we'd be happy for a while.
But then Krackhead left and so did Klown;
Volo and Turnip were banned, Mystake got run out o' town.
Bad news on the Front Page,
BIOweenia said goodbye in a heated rage.
I can't remember if I cried
When I heard that TORN was recently fried,
But sadness touched me deep inside,
The day...Black Isle died.


For tarna, Visc, an' the rest o' the ol' Islanders that fell along the way

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I didn't have much of an issue with you guys not using the old characters, as much I wanted to know what happened to them. Yeah, most of their stories finished; however, I felt that Canderous's ending was kinga weak... like theres should have been something more; I hope he's Mandalore.

 

P.S.: That kinda rhymed. :thumbsup:

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Those pictures of Carth at the leather club that surfaced earlier this year

 

 

 

:devil::thumbsup: :ph34r:

 

 

 

...canna be any worse than the ones where he an' Josh Sawyer was doin' a version o' the G-String Hussle back at BIS...now those was some scary stuff... :lol:

 

 

...WHO LUVS YA, BABY!!...

 

 

Who? HIM?!?

 

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"that's jus' cuz ye wouldna know a good story if'n someone smoked ya o'er the head wit' it, dwarf... "

 

Of course, I never said PST's story was bad. It is very good. I just don't think it's "the best ever" and you can't handle the treuth so you make up stories. go play DS. It's more to your liking than PST anyways.

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Those pictures of Carth at the leather club that surfaced earlier this year

Carth in leather?

I thought it was Malak (check link, format cannot be posted unfortunately)

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Thats just wrong! :thumbsup:;)

Where is the bell, wait for the bell, k i need the bell, wait the bell! Ding bonda dong! Ding bonda dong! Ding bonda dong! Ding bonda dong!

 

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If the scenario is totally good then you don't need replayability. If the scenario is good and there is replayability, that is even better

So you would be satisfied with one playtrough if it was a good one? I want more than that. If I pay 50 euros for a game, I expect to play (and enjoy) it more than once.

If you look at Kotor, I think the designers came up with a ideal mix of linearity and replayabiltiy.

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So you would be satisfied with one playtrough if it was a good one? I want more than that. If I pay 50 euros for a game, I expect to play (and enjoy) it more than once.

If you look at Kotor, I think the designers came up with a ideal mix of linearity and replayabiltiy.

 

I'd rather have one play through of a good linear game, than I would the ability to play through a crappy non-linear game a number of times. :rolleyes:

 

Btw, just because a game's main story is on the linear side doesn't mean it has no replayability. I think TSL is going to prove that quite well. Unless you want to argue that a)it's not a linear story or b)Obsidian is lying and that it will really only have one play through.

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I'd rather have one play through of a good linear game, than I would the ability to play through a crappy non-linear game a number of times.  :rolleyes:

 

Btw, just because a game's main story is on the linear side doesn't mean it has no replayability.  I think TSL is going to prove that quite well.  Unless you want to argue that a)it's not a linear story or b)Obsidian is lying and that it will really only have one play through.

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Up until now I was hoping for Kotor 3/4/5/etc. But if we can expect to have brand new characters every game I say it just isn't worth it. Change the name, change the timeline, and stop trying to cash in on past glories by using the "Knights of" gimmick.

 

On the other hand, if we can at least keep a few of the characters from K2 I'd say go for the sequel. Its bad enough "the greatest jedi ever" occured twice in 5 years. It'd be a nasty stretch to see that happen 3 times.

 

I know writing high level campaign material is tougher than tossing random thugs at palyers, so the low level stuff is easier to write. And I agree with not wanting to take over someone else's creation(Bastilla/Mission/Canderous/etc). But sometimes you have to go the long route to get the job done, at least, get it done well. I'd hate to see this line turn into a cookie cuter franchise. Theres too much talent to let that happen.

 

I hope...

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But KOTOR, by cRPG standards, was considered very linear.  Yet it still allowed for, at bare minimum, two play throughs (4 if you wanted to play both genders).  So thus you could argue even linear games have replayability, so they're not mutually exclusive.

OK, how about a linear adventure, like Discworld Noir? There is only one way to play it/finish it. There

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Up until now I was hoping for Kotor 3/4/5/etc. But if we can expect to have brand new characters every game I say it just isn't worth it. Change the name, change the timeline, and stop trying to cash in on past glories by using the "Knights of" gimmick.

 

On the other hand, if we can at least keep a few of the characters from K2 I'd say go for the sequel. Its bad enough "the greatest jedi ever" occured twice in 5 years. It'd be a nasty stretch to see that happen 3 times.

 

I know writing high level campaign material is tougher than tossing random thugs at palyers, so the low level stuff is easier to write. And I agree with not wanting to take over someone else's creation(Bastilla/Mission/Canderous/etc). But sometimes you have to go the long route to get the job done, at least, get it done well. I'd hate to see this line turn into a cookie cuter franchise. Theres too much talent to let that happen.

 

I hope...

 

It hasn't really hurt the Final Fantasy franchise, has it?

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