Mr. Brightside Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 As for the luxury ones like the Benz, BMW, and the VW (I personally would love to have a Touareg) I consider those more of a truck car cross and would be surprised if they ever seen any true off road duty. The ML Mercedes SUVs (junk: http://www.mbusa.com/brand/models/ML500.jsp ) are not to be confused with the G Mercedes SUVs (boss: http://www.mbusa.com/brand/models/G55.jsp ). The G-Class SUVs are based off of the old NATO-spec Gelandwagens. Was actually wondering if you ever owned the 2wd counterpart to any of those cars to see what the difference was. No, I've never owned a FWD car. Gas mileage is probably worse on Torsen/quattro cars than on Haldex AWD cars because Haldex systems only drive the rear wheels when slip is detected on the front. Also I see a lot of HP guys how would you feel if I told you you could get a 400 to 500 horse turbo charged motor that would run at least 500,000 miles? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'd assume it was a diesel. Anyway, I'd be more concerned about the turbos than the engine itself. What about this new Mercedes 7-tronic? or some kind of name, I am not sure anymore how it is called <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It's in the new E500 and S500, and it's the best automatic transmission I've driven. It is smooth and relatively smart, but it still bogs on occasion. However, Mercedes gets around that problem in the same way they do with their automatic AMGs: gobs of low-end torque from a high displacment and/or FI engine. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You have driven every car in the world, or? Or why do you know everything? And I think it is also available for S600 and CLS and for CL... ( I mean the transmission) But I thought that you can buy it for every Mercedes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.E. Sawyer Posted December 7, 2004 Author Share Posted December 7, 2004 The price alone makes that a luxury SUV no matter what the specs are just Like the Hummer. Well, yes and no. The Hummer H2 is a pretty sad off-road vehicle. The H1s are great. But I'd never say the G-Wagens are "just like" the H2. In fact, a lot of people say that they outperform Hummer H1s off-road. The interior of the G500 has wood and leather, but it's designed for off-road use. The Gs haven't always been this expensive -- only recently and in the U.S. twitter tyme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Product of the Cosmos Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 to me, a car is something to use to travel places. and yet your first argument in favour of automatics is that they're better for when you're stuck in traffic... i see closure of the GM foods thread hasn't altered your taste for bizarro logic. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Arguement? I personally just like them better. And yes they are better in traffic IMO. Maybe if you considered what I was replying to in the quote, you would understand. Yet, you wish to create conflict and dis me. That is the source of your cognizance failure. I eat, smoke, talk on the phone, etc when I am driving. Automatic is what I drive. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Potc, for someone who Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakoth Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 The price alone makes that a luxury SUV no matter what the specs are just Like the Hummer. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well, yes and no. The Hummer H2 is a pretty sad off-road vehicle. The H1s are great. But I'd never say the G-Wagens are "just like" the H2. In fact, a lot of people say that they outperform Hummer H1s off-road. The interior of the G500 has wood and leather, but it's designed for off-road use. The Gs haven't always been this expensive -- only recently and in the U.S. You kinda mistook what I meant J.E. I meant that at an inflated price like that it is in the same category price wise only. I really am not impressed with the H2s. Those are some impressive pics by the way, although I have seen vehicles that cost much less do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkreku Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 I only have one link to say about the H2: http://www.fuh2.com/ Swedes, go to: Spel2, for the latest game reviews in swedish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.E. Sawyer Posted December 7, 2004 Author Share Posted December 7, 2004 Those are some impressive pics by the way, although I have seen vehicles that cost much less do the same. You can buy older gas or diesel G-Wagens (like many of the ones pictured there) with the same off-road capabilities for $6k-$15k. Like I said, it's only recently that the G-Class got a ton of luxury features stacked on top of its utilitarian chassis. twitter tyme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakoth Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Those are some impressive pics by the way, although I have seen vehicles that cost much less do the same. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You can buy older gas or diesel G-Wagens (like many of the ones pictured there) with the same off-road capabilities for $6k-$15k. Like I said, it's only recently that the G-Class got a ton of luxury features stacked on top of its utilitarian chassis. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That might be some thing for me to look into it would be a great work vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkreku Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 If you really want a work vehicle (and don't care for aesthetics) I'd recommend the Unimog (also manufactured by Mercedes Benz). My father owns one and it's reliable, incredibly strong and easy to repair. Swedes, go to: Spel2, for the latest game reviews in swedish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Brightside Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 If you really want a work vehicle (and don't care for aesthetics) I'd recommend the Unimog (also manufactured by Mercedes Benz). My father owns one and it's reliable, incredibly strong and easy to repair. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Is your father German? Because he has a German number! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkreku Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 No, he has one like that. The one above is just a picture I found on the internet to show which model Unimog he has. Swedes, go to: Spel2, for the latest game reviews in swedish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.E. Sawyer Posted December 8, 2004 Author Share Posted December 8, 2004 If you really want a work vehicle (and don't care for aesthetics) I'd recommend the Unimog (also manufactured by Mercedes Benz). :cool: twitter tyme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omnimutant Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 I have an Older Jeep Cherokee 4.0 4wd. Yes it eats gas, yes its a bohemoth and yes it is an automatic, but it also has alot of spunk when you lay into the pedal. I much prefer the automatic Transmition for my Jeep. With small trucks, and sports cars of course the manual shift is the way to go, like if I had a Viper or somthing. I would be very painstaking to have manual shift in my Jeep with the insiane traffic we have around here. It would drive me nuts. I think it's just a situational thing. For offroading I prefer the automatic too. Too many other things to worry about when romping the desert, like ditches, rocks, thick shrubbs, the occasional wandering cow! The funney thing is I have 4wd, but I've never needed to use it(4wd option) even when off roading. Seems like a waste, but if I did'nt have it I'm sure i'd run into a situation where it would be needed to get unstuck or whatever. Anyway I have No Idea where this post is going hehe, Congrats on the sporty looking ride J.E. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakoth Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 If you really want a work vehicle (and don't care for aesthetics) I'd recommend the Unimog (also manufactured by Mercedes Benz). My father owns one and it's reliable, incredibly strong and easy to repair. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Uh when I said work truck I didn't necessarily mean begger than a 1 ton truck. That thing would be great if I took on a lot of jobs but damn it looks like it has air brakes. You have a website I could go to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taks Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 isn't the hummer (commercial) just a yukon with a different body? i've seen accidents between a hummer and a dodge ram, btw, and, well, let's just say i'd have rather been in the ram taks comrade taks... just because. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkreku Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 Uh when I said work truck I didn't necessarily mean begger than a 1 ton truck. That thing would be great if I took on a lot of jobs but damn it looks like it has air brakes. You have a website I could go to? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I have no idea what the Unimog weighs, but it's very compact and small. It's not much bigger than an ordinary SUV, only slightly wider (big wheels and all). http://www.unimogtrucks.com/ Swedes, go to: Spel2, for the latest game reviews in swedish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Brightside Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 I am for a CLS! Bettest new car in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakoth Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 Uh when I said work truck I didn't necessarily mean begger than a 1 ton truck. That thing would be great if I took on a lot of jobs but damn it looks like it has air brakes. You have a website I could go to? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I have no idea what the Unimog weighs, but it's very compact and small. It's not much bigger than an ordinary SUV, only slightly wider (big wheels and all). http://www.unimogtrucks.com/ <{POST_SNAPBACK}> http://www.unimogtrucks.com/products/specifications.asp 26,000 lbs. to 33,000 lbs. Ford F350/Chevy 3500 what I was talking about when I said 1 ton. 12,000 lbs going from memory as I can not find it on site. That Unimog is a lot of truck even if it is compact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Brightside Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 There is a new offroad unimog! Have you seen him? I think he is white and he looks a little bit like the older models. With that car you have so much possibilities in bad terrain. This unimog is able to do everything! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Brightside Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 Unimog, that is even a car for farmers! :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leferd Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 I like cars. I did not really like my Audi that much. It was okay, but not that much fun to drive. It had a bit more luxury than I really needed, and my monthly payments were high enough that I had to make a frowny face. This evening, I traded in my Audi and bought this black beauty: a 2004 Volkswagen R32. I got the only option available: leather seats. I love it. It has a 250 horsepower 3.2L VR6 engine mated to a six-speed manual transmission. It uses a Haldex (front-biased) all-wheel drive system, but absolutely no torque steer is felt even under heavy driving. The brakes are from a Passat W8, with massive 4-piston calipers. Of course, it has a sport suspension and, as the pictures show, the front seats are manual K�nig racing seats with massive side bolsters. I am quite pleased. I like cars. I did not really like my Element that much. It was okay, but not that much fun to drive. It had a bit more utility than I really needed, and my friends kept asking me to help them haul stuff enough that I had to make a frowny face. 3 years ago, I traded in my Element and bought this blue beauty: a MkVI Volkswagen R. I got the only options available: Navigation, Keyless Entry, upgraded Soundsystem, and Sunroof. I love it. It has a 256 horsepower 2.0 Turbo engine mated to a six-speed manual transmission. It uses a Haldex (front-biased) all-wheel drive system, but absolutely no torque steer is felt even under heavy driving. The brakes are from a MkV R32, with massive 4-piston calipers. Of course, it has a sport suspension and, as the pictures show, LED taillights. I am quite pleased. 2 "Things are funny...are comedic, because they mix the real with the absurd." - Buzz Aldrin."P-O-T-A-T-O-E" - Dan Quayle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of Riva Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 not wanting to backseat moderate here but you do realise that this topic is 11 years old ? :D 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyrock Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 This may be a new thread necromancy record. 11 years! 1 RFK Jr 2024 "Any organization created out of fear must create fear to survive." - Bill Hicks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Lefred confirmed for Pale Master. 1 "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leferd Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Well, to be fair...I had always wanted to post on this thread, but my ride back then was a hand-me-down 11 year old 1993 Camry station wagon. I suppose I could have then called it the '93 Leferdmobile Avant... "Things are funny...are comedic, because they mix the real with the absurd." - Buzz Aldrin."P-O-T-A-T-O-E" - Dan Quayle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longknife Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 It's ok friend. I too have long harbored a dream of someday posting in Josh Sawyer's new car thread ever since I was a freshman in high school, so I'm sure the mods will sympathize with your desire to post here. Likewise, I'm sure Sawyer will appreciate your inputs as well. 1 "The Courier was the worst of all of them. The worst by far. When he died the first time, he must have met the devil, and then killed him." Is your mom hot? It may explain why guys were following her ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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